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Split fan shroud install question [message #91043] Sun, 04 July 2010 08:24 Go to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 03 July 2010 21:16

Replace the OEM fan shroud contraption with a fiberglass one from Frank Jenkins or Bert & Faye Curtis. If not already split, split it in two (horizontally with angle flanges to screw together). Now you should be able to remove the lower 1/2 shroud in <5 min. and make everything on the front of the engine easy to access.

JWID,

Ken H.

As long as I am looking at some serious in-season wrench time, Can a split fan shroud be installed without removing the radiator, condenser and trans cooler?

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Split fan shroud install question [message #91044 is a reply to message #91043] Sun, 04 July 2010 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Terry Skinner is currently offline  Terry Skinner   United States
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Yes..............
http://www.gmcws.org/Tech/fan_shroud/fanshroud.htm

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net> wrote:
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>
> Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 03 July 2010 21&#58;16
>> Replace the OEM fan shroud contraption with a fiberglass one from Frank Jenkins or Bert & Faye Curtis.  If not already split, split it in two (horizontally with angle flanges to screw together).  Now you should be able to remove the lower 1/2 shroud in <5 min. and make everything on the front of the engine easy to access.
>>
>> JWID,
>>
>> Ken H.
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> As long as I am looking at some serious in-season wrench time, Can a split fan shroud be installed without removing the radiator, condenser and trans cooler?
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Re: [GMCnet] Split fan shroud install question [message #91048 is a reply to message #91043] Sun, 04 July 2010 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yup! The only tough fastener to access is the upper LH by the rad
hose. The rest goes pretty quickly.

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net> wrote:
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> Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 03 July 2010 21&#58;16
>> Replace the OEM fan shroud contraption with a fiberglass one from Frank Jenkins or Bert & Faye Curtis.  If not already split, split it in two (horizontally with angle flanges to screw together).  Now you should be able to remove the lower 1/2 shroud in <5 min. and make everything on the front of the engine easy to access.
>>
>> JWID,
>>
>> Ken H.
>
> As long as I am looking at some serious in-season wrench time, Can a split fan shroud be installed without removing the radiator, condenser and trans cooler?
>
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Re: Split fan shroud install question [message #91076 is a reply to message #91043] Sun, 04 July 2010 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Most definitely. you put 4 bolts to the rear of the radiator mount hold it in place. Another 4 small vertical bolts hold the two halfs together.

The PITA is getting the old horse collar one off. Once it is off, the new one is nothing to install.



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Re: Split fan shroud install question [message #91113 is a reply to message #91076] Sun, 04 July 2010 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt, you will never regret getting that old horse collar out of the way and having the 2 piece shroud. Sure makes getting to stuff on the front of the engine a lot easier.
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Re: Split fan shroud install question [message #132645 is a reply to message #91043] Wed, 29 June 2011 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I read a lot here about replacing the fan shroud with a 2 piece fiberglass aftermarket shroud but I am thinking I could just split the original shroud. Where is the fallacy in my thinking?

Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
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Re: Split fan shroud install question [message #132647 is a reply to message #132645] Wed, 29 June 2011 17:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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carguy wrote on Wed, 29 June 2011 17:02

I read a lot here about replacing the fan shroud with a 2 piece fiberglass aftermarket shroud but I am thinking I could just split the original shroud. Where is the fallacy in my thinking?


Bill

Look here...

http://www.gmcws.org/Tech/fan_shroud/fanshroud.htm

Dennis


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Re: [GMCnet] Split fan shroud install question [message #132649 is a reply to message #132647] Wed, 29 June 2011 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>> I read a lot here about replacing the fan shroud with a 2 piece fiberglass aftermarket shroud but I am thinking I could just split the original shroud. Where is the fallacy in my thinking?

>> Bill
>>
>> Look here...
>> http://www.gmcws.org/Tech/fan_shroud/fanshroud.htm
>> Dennis

A good way to do it before the fiberglass version was available. Still
going to be heavier than the glass one and it's a lot of fabrication. I
LIKE fabrication, but I haven't regretted the money spent on the Curtis
split shroud.

My 2¢
Kelvin

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Re: [GMCnet] Split fan shroud install question [message #132661 is a reply to message #132649] Wed, 29 June 2011 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Really all I want is a notch so that I can get the fan belts on and off more easily.

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Re: Split fan shroud install question [message #132829 is a reply to message #91043] Thu, 30 June 2011 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks guys. I did find the http://www.gmcws.org/Tech/fan_shroud/fanshroud.htm article and it deals with preparing and splitting the aftermarket fiberglass shroud. I'm looking for BTDT guidance/suggestions re splitting the original shroud.

Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
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Re: [GMCnet] Split fan shroud install question [message #132831 is a reply to message #132829] Thu, 30 June 2011 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bill,

I don't understand -- the link IS for the original shroud.

Dennis







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Thanks guys. I did find the http://www.gmcws.org/Tech/fan_shroud/fanshroud.htm
rticle and it deals with preparing and splitting the aftermarket fiberglass
hroud. I'm looking for BTDT guidance/suggestions re splitting the original
hroud.
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Re: Split fan shroud install question [message #132836 is a reply to message #132645] Thu, 30 June 2011 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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when the oem fan shroud rubs a hole in your radiator, then you will understand the adavantage of the fiberglass split fan shroud.

bin there, dun it.
Re: [GMCnet] Split fan shroud install question [message #132837 is a reply to message #132829] Thu, 30 June 2011 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Bill
I did mine some time ago; one of the first mods I did to the coach that I
got from your bud in Zanesville, Rex B.
I don't remember blow by blow what I did other than it was simple.
I took off the shroud [after removing the fan as I recall,] out the bottom.

With the item out and workable, and still intact, I added to each side a
plate of scrap aluminum, locally secured.
About just a few inches square.
Then I used self tapping screws and installed one plate on each side, midway
up each side.
Used 4 screws each side.

Removed plates and sawed the shroud in half , midway between screw holes.

Reassembled the shroud using the plates, but by using pop rivets on the
upper end of each plate.
[2 rivets, 2 screws each side.]
Replaced into coach

It took only a hour or so, after I made the plates in advance.
Not a big job at all,
and it is a good premptive mod because I have never had to use it .

It has been a while but that is my recollection as of now.
[But I have slept since.....]

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Re: [GMCnet] Split fan shroud install question [message #132839 is a reply to message #132837] Thu, 30 June 2011 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> I don't remember blow by blow what I did other than it was simple.
> I took off the shroud [after removing the fan as I recall,] out the bottom.
>
> With the item out and workable, and still intact, I added to each side a
> plate of scrap aluminum, locally secured.
> About just a few inches square.
> Then I used self tapping screws and installed one plate on each side, midway
> up each side.
> Used 4 screws each side.
>
> Removed plates and sawed the shroud in half , midway between screw holes.
>
> Reassembled the shroud using the plates, but by using pop rivets on the
> upper end of each plate.
> [2 rivets, 2 screws each side.]
> Replaced into coach
>
> It took only a hour or so, after I made the plates in advance.
> Not a big job at all,
> and it is a good premptive mod because I have never had to use it .
>
> It has been a while but that is my recollection as of now.
> [But I have slept since.....]

From the pictures I've seen that sounds like a pretty good description
of what the mod entails. I might quibble with "It took only and hour or
so..." however.

That's a 6 hour job if I ever saw one. It should only take a couple
hours but that's almost never the case. If you really did that in less
than 2 hours I am most impressed, George...

Just sayin'...
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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Re: Split fan shroud install question [message #133643 is a reply to message #91043] Thu, 07 July 2011 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah Ha! Now I get it. Sorry for being so dense. My confusion was because I thought the original fan shroud was steel. Now all I have to do is get the old one out and replace it with my new to me shroud which I will split beforehand. Looking closely at my original it won't be too soon as it is cracked and broken in many places. Maybe getting it out will be easier if I just cut it up into pieces in place.

Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
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Re: Split fan shroud install question [message #133649 is a reply to message #133643] Thu, 07 July 2011 12:16 Go to previous message
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carguy wrote on Thu, 07 July 2011 12:05

Looking closely at my original it won't be too soon as it is cracked and broken in many places. Maybe getting it out will be easier if I just cut it up into pieces in place.


Hi Bill,
Sounds like mine was - and it didn't take more than a pair of gloves and a little strength... it came apart in bits and pieces as easy as thick stale bread - i.e. no tools required. Wink

Gord
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