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Matt Colie
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We were taking the coach to a favorite place to watch fireworks. First there was a squeal, I shut down the main engine and stuffed the coach in the approach of an intersection so passers could get around. When the engine cover was removed, and the engine started the noise that sounded like metal on metal squall was bad. Mary can still hear better than I though it was the water pump or the alternator (I couldn't tell). So, being three miles from home. we closed it up and turned about with the hope of getting home before it went critical.
About an half a mile back the track, BANG, a the coach got real quiet. It stayed running - that's nice - Still had power steering, no alternator light, on temperature rise. The vent temperature was rising - No AC. We got back to base and exhaled. Then the engine cover came up again and I noticed that there was no longer a belt on the AC compressor.
We discussed the situation and decided to turn about again and continue the plan for the evening.
Sometime before the fireworks started, I put my hand on the sheave for the compressor - it does not move, but the drive plate turns nicely. It's still new compressor time.
Two more sets of fireworks and a one day job next week and then I'll start taking things apart.
Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #90984 is a reply to message #90982] |
Sat, 03 July 2010 16:45  |
Dennis S
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Matt,
Could it be the AC clutch bearing has frozen?
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN 38138-2066
USA
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From: Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net>
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Sent: Sat, Jul 3, 2010 4:42 pm
Subject: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang
We were taking the coach to a favorite place to watch fireworks. First there
as a squeal, I shut down the main engine and stuffed the coach in the approach
f an intersection so passers could get around. When the engine cover was
emoved, and the engine started the noise that sounded like metal on metal
quall was bad. Mary can still hear better than I though it was the water pump
r the alternator (I couldn't tell). So, being three miles from home. we closed
t up and turned about with the hope of getting home before it went critical.
About an half a mile back the track, BANG, a the coach got real quiet. It
tayed running - that's nice - Still had power steering, no alternator light, on
emperature rise. The vent temperature was rising - No AC. We got back to base
nd exhaled. Then the engine cover came up again and I noticed that there was
o longer a belt on the AC compressor.
We discussed the situation and decided to turn about again and continue the plan
or the evening.
Sometime before the fireworks started, I put my hand on the sheave for the
ompressor - it does not move, but the drive plate turns nicely. It's still new
ompressor time.
Two more sets of fireworks and a one day job next week and then I'll start
aking things apart.
Matt
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73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
E Michigan - DTW 3.2/4R
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #90990 is a reply to message #90988] |
Sat, 03 July 2010 17:25 |
Dennis S
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Matt,
If it is only the clutch or the clutch bearing it can be replaced without disconnecting the hoses. The clutch or the bearing are both availble from Autoone.
Photo album
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29605&title=ac-clutch-bearing-r-2fr&cat=5194
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
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From: Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net>
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Sent: Sat, Jul 3, 2010 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang
Dennis Sexton wrote on Sat, 03 July 2010 17:45
Matt,
Could it be the AC clutch bearing has frozen?
Dennis Sexton
Dennis,
I am sure it is, and with the noise it was making before it locked up enough to
reak the belt, I'm willing to bet that the inner race tore up or welded itself
o the nose of the compressor.
The compressor has been getting much noisier since I charged (it came to me dead
3.5years ago) the system with 134. I am planning to have it flushed and then
harge with HC12.
Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #91009 is a reply to message #90982] |
Sat, 03 July 2010 20:44 |
Ken Henderson
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Matt,
Do yourself a favor: Don't lift a 1000# replacement A6 up into that little
hole. Get a Sanden/clone instead. With a model that has 4 mounting ears
just behind the clutch, mounting is a snap -- almost direct fit on the A6
front mounting plate. Scrap the cast iron stuff and put a short brace at
the rear. You'll need new hoses unless you're very lucky and find one with
GM-type fittings, but it will be worth the cost for easier R&R, less HP
requirement, and just as good cooling.
JWID,
Ken H..
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven
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On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net> wrote:
> ... It's still new compressor time.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #91017 is a reply to message #91009] |
Sat, 03 July 2010 22:11 |
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 03 July 2010 21:44 |
Matt,
Do yourself a favor: Don't lift a 1000# replacement A6 up into that little hole. Get a Sanden/clone instead. With a model that has 4 mounting ears just behind the clutch, mounting is a snap -- almost direct fit on the A6 front mounting plate. Scrap the cast iron stuff and put a short brace at the rear. You'll need new hoses unless you're very lucky and find one with GM-type fittings, but it will be worth the cost for easier R&R, less HP requirement, and just as good cooling.
JWID,
Ken H..
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Ken,
I heard that that is what you did, but how do I find the correct compressor?
There does not seem to be a listing anywhere that describes a Sanden with the A6 flange.
And remember, I'm in the rust-belt and there isn't much at the mens mall that is over 15 years old.
If you can help, I would appreciate it.
Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #91022 is a reply to message #91017] |
Sat, 03 July 2010 23:06 |
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Matt,
If I can remember tomorrow, I'll go out in the shop and find the
invoice on the Sanden clone that I bought
that will be a direct replacement for your A-6.
Gary Kosier
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Colie" <mcolie@chartermi.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang
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> Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 03 July 2010 21:44
>> Matt,
>>
>> Do yourself a favor: Don't lift a 1000# replacement A6 up
>> into that little hole. Get a Sanden/clone instead. With a
>> model that has 4 mounting ears just behind the clutch,
>> mounting is a snap -- almost direct fit on the A6 front
>> mounting plate. Scrap the cast iron stuff and put a short
>> brace at the rear. You'll need new hoses unless you're very
>> lucky and find one with GM-type fittings, but it will be worth
>> the cost for easier R&R, less HP requirement, and just as good
>> cooling.
>>
>> JWID,
>>
>> Ken H..
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> Ken,
>
> I heard that that is what you did, but how do I find the
> correct compressor?
>
> There does not seem to be a listing anywhere that describes a
> Sanden with the A6 flange.
>
> And remember, I'm in the rust-belt and there isn't much at the
> mens mall that is over 15 years old.
>
> If you can help, I would appreciate it.
>
> Matt
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> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
> SE Michigan - DTW 3.2/4R
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #91023 is a reply to message #91017] |
Sat, 03 July 2010 23:12 |
Ken Henderson
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Matt,
I don't have a lot of experience or references to offer; I probably got
lucky in buying exactly what I needed "in the blind" through eBay. But that
decision was based partially in the information here:
http://www.sanden.com/images/SD_Service_Guide_Rev.2.pdf
That at least tells how to identify the different Sanden configurations.
Mostly, I counted on what I'd seen in junk yards: the Sandens and their
clones seem pretty consistent in their configurations, regardless of the
vehicle they're mounted on. Your shortage of such places is a true
handicap.
Since it will be a custom mount, I was willing to gamble that I could adapt
to 'most any variation I received. I was lucky, I suppose, that the
clutch-mount spacing was perfect; I didn't even need any washers for
spacers. All I had to do was slightly elongate the 4 mounting holes in the
mounting plate for the A-6. Since I had a serpentine belt, I got a Sanden
with a much wider (10 groove, IIRC) pulley than my belt (6 groove), making
alignment easy.
Most of the Sandens I see on eBay have double V-belt pullies; I'd expect one
of those to be close enough for simple adjustment to align.
I recently saw somewhere that most of the big truck Sandens use the GM-style
rear ports, for what that may be worth.
If I needed one myself, I'd be willing to gamble on:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SANDEN-7402-STYLE-AC-A-C-COMPRESSOR-NEW-SD709-SD-709-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45f1d419e5QQitemZ300409952741QQptZMoto rsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_1925wt_950
Which popped up with a search for "SD-709".
Or:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-4510-SANDEN-SD5H14-STYLE-COMPRESSOR-W-CLUTCH-/350362990404?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&a mp;hash=item519342f744#ht_500wt_745
Since you're replacing the compressor, whether the compressor is prepped for
R-12 or 134a doesn't really matter much since the rest of the system is
pretty easy to flush.
HTH,
Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #91025 is a reply to message #91017] |
Sun, 04 July 2010 00:05 |
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Here you go, Matt.
Nostalgic Air Parts
10220 Fisher Ave.
Tampa, Fl 33619
813-413-8420
Part No. 4663QC Compressor
Cost me $214.99 No tax. Free shipping and handling.
Twin V-belt sheaves, correct hook-up on the back
And sold as a direct replacement for a Chevy, which
means a standard A-6 mount.
Gary Kosier
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From: "Matt Colie" <mcolie@chartermi.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang
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> Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 03 July 2010 21:44
>> Matt,
>>
>> Do yourself a favor: Don't lift a 1000# replacement A6 up
>> into that little hole. Get a Sanden/clone instead. With a
>> model that has 4 mounting ears just behind the clutch,
>> mounting is a snap -- almost direct fit on the A6 front
>> mounting plate. Scrap the cast iron stuff and put a short
>> brace at the rear. You'll need new hoses unless you're very
>> lucky and find one with GM-type fittings, but it will be worth
>> the cost for easier R&R, less HP requirement, and just as good
>> cooling.
>>
>> JWID,
>>
>> Ken H..
>
> Ken,
>
> I heard that that is what you did, but how do I find the
> correct compressor?
>
> There does not seem to be a listing anywhere that describes a
> Sanden with the A6 flange.
>
> And remember, I'm in the rust-belt and there isn't much at the
> mens mall that is over 15 years old.
>
> If you can help, I would appreciate it.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
> SE Michigan - DTW 3.2/4R
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #91037 is a reply to message #91023] |
Sun, 04 July 2010 07:10 |
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 00:12 |
Matt,
I don't have a lot of experience or references to offer; I probably got lucky in buying exactly what I needed "in the blind" through eBay. But that decision was based partially in the information here:
http://www.sanden.com/images/SD_Service_Guide_Rev.2.pdf
That at least tells how to identify the different Sanden configurations.
Mostly, I counted on what I'd seen in junk yards: the Sandens and their clones seem pretty consistent in their configurations, regardless of the vehicle they're mounted on. Your shortage of such places is a true handicap.
Since it will be a custom mount, I was willing to gamble that I could adapt to 'most any variation I received. I was lucky, I suppose, that the clutch-mount spacing was perfect; I didn't even need any washers for spacers. All I had to do was slightly elongate the 4 mounting holes in the mounting plate for the A-6. Since I had a serpentine belt, I got a Sanden with a much wider (10 groove, IIRC) pulley than my belt (6 groove), making
alignment easy.
Most of the Sandens I see on eBay have double V-belt pullies; I'd expect one of those to be close enough for simple adjustment to align.
I recently saw somewhere that most of the big truck Sandens use the GM-style rear ports, for what that may be worth.
If I needed one myself, I'd be willing to gamble on:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SANDEN-7402-STYLE-AC-A-C-COMPRESSOR-NEW-SD709-SD-709-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45f1d419e5QQitemZ300409952741QQptZMoto rsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_1925wt_950
Which popped up with a search for "SD-709".
Or:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-4510-SANDEN-SD5H14-STYLE-COMPRESSOR-W-CLUTCH-/350362990404?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&a mp;a mp;hash=item519342f744#ht_500wt_745
Since you're replacing the compressor, whether the compressor is prepped for R-12 or 134a doesn't really matter much since the rest of the system is pretty easy to flush.
HTH,
Ken H.
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Ken,
As usual, Ken have provided valuable information. . .
I had tripped over that site late last night, but did not investigate it at any depth because I did not think a "service guide" would provide any information that I needed at this point.
I guess I remembered wrong about something else - too. I thought you had changed to the Sanden clone before you went to serpentine drive.
The current plan is to get all the parts in a heap, then take the then partly disassembled coach to a shop to have it flushed with the serious equipment and solvent. Then build it up and fill with HC-12A. I really only want to do this once.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #91042 is a reply to message #91025] |
Sun, 04 July 2010 08:17 |
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Matt Colie
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| Kosier wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 01:05 |
Here you go, Matt.
Nostalgic Air Parts
10220 Fisher Ave.
Tampa, Fl 33619
813-413-8420
Part No. 4663QC Compressor
Cost me $214.99 No tax. Free shipping and handling.
Twin V-belt sheaves, correct hook-up on the back And sold as a direct replacement for a Chevy, which means a standard A-6 mount.
Gary Kosier
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Gary,
Thanks, I found their site late last night (actually early this morning). They seem to be unsure about fit, but I guess you aren't. The part number is still good, but the price has gone up. Still a deal.
Should we get this rolled into the next parts interchange book?
This is actually getting better as we go. I was looking at a new A6 for ~6 GMC bucks and the work to go with that.
Thanks
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #91054 is a reply to message #91037] |
Sun, 04 July 2010 11:37 |
Ken Henderson
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Matt,
The only thing you were really mistaken about is when I changed to
serpentine -- that was 5 years or so ago when I changed out the whole front
clip, which included #3 of the 3 serpentine systems for the 455 that Bobby
Moore and JR Slaten assembled 10 years or so ago.
Gary's groundbreaking use of the Nostalgic Air A-6 replacement should make
your selection easier. I'd noticed that yesterday but wasn't sure whether
the Chevrolet has the same configuration.
Nostalgic Air has a lot of Sanden rear caps on their bargains page -- says
they're new take-offs. I'll bet they have to swap those caps for the
GM-style for the A-6 sub.
Ken H.
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net> wrote:
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> ...
I guess I remembered wrong about something else - too. I thought you had
> changed to the Sanden clone before you went to serpentine drive.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #91075 is a reply to message #91042] |
Sun, 04 July 2010 15:17 |
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Colie" <mcolie@chartermi.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang
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>
> Kosier wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 01:05
>> Here you go, Matt.
>> Nostalgic Air Parts
>> 10220 Fisher Ave.
>> Tampa, Fl 33619
>> 813-413-8420
>> Part No. 4663QC Compressor
>> Cost me $214.99 No tax. Free shipping and handling.
>> Twin V-belt sheaves, correct hook-up on the back And sold as a
>> direct replacement for a Chevy, which means a standard A-6
>> mount.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>
> Gary,
>
> Thanks, I found their site late last night (actually early this
> morning). They seem to be unsure about fit, but I guess you
> aren't. The part number is still good, but the price has gone
> up. Still a deal.
>
> Should we get this rolled into the next parts interchange book?
>
> This is actually getting better as we go. I was looking at a
> new A6 for ~6 GMC bucks and the work to go with that.
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
Matt,
I'm attempting to conjure up a bracket set-up to mount it under
the headers on the right side of a Caddy 500.
However, it had the standard Sanden four bolt pattern on the
front and rear. Ken Henderson and others have
already sorted out the mounting on the GMC brackets, so it looks
like an easy fit-up. Certainly will be a lot
easier to lift up in place than that gorilla A6. I can't do that
anymore!LOL
Gary Kosier
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #91079 is a reply to message #91075] |
Sun, 04 July 2010 15:34 |
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Gary,
Probably too late now for you, but my Sanden fit perfectly on top of the
Cad, just like the A-6 that come on it (using a custom bracket). But my
Sanden has hose fittings that let me cant them to the side; your GM style
hoses, running over the top, will interfere too much with the hatch. :-(
Frankly, I think mounting the Sanden under a cylinder bank as you describe
would be easier if you used my front mount -- it would be easier to add
compressor mounting brackets to it than to hang something from engine hard
points.
Ken H.
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Kosier <gkosier@roadrunner.com> wrote:
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> I'm attempting to conjure up a bracket set-up to mount it under
> the headers on the right side of a Caddy 500.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang [message #91122 is a reply to message #91075] |
Mon, 05 July 2010 06:40 |
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Gary,
I have already done that and published it. Check it out:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=20211&title=p1010675&cat=3563
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Kosier <gkosier@roadrunner.com> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Colie" <mcolie@chartermi.net>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Starting the weekend of with a Bang
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>>
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>> Kosier wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 01:05
>>> Here you go, Matt.
>>> Nostalgic Air Parts
>>> 10220 Fisher Ave.
>>> Tampa, Fl 33619
>>> 813-413-8420
>>> Part No. 4663QC Compressor
>>> Cost me $214.99 No tax. Free shipping and handling.
>>> Twin V-belt sheaves, correct hook-up on the back And sold as a
>>> direct replacement for a Chevy, which means a standard A-6
>>> mount.
>>>
>>> Gary Kosier
>>
>> Gary,
>>
>> Thanks, I found their site late last night (actually early this
>> morning). They seem to be unsure about fit, but I guess you
>> aren't. The part number is still good, but the price has gone
>> up. Still a deal.
>>
>> Should we get this rolled into the next parts interchange book?
>>
>> This is actually getting better as we go. I was looking at a
>> new A6 for ~6 GMC bucks and the work to go with that.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Matt
>
> Matt,
>
> I'm attempting to conjure up a bracket set-up to mount it under
> the headers on the right side of a Caddy 500.
> However, it had the standard Sanden four bolt pattern on the
> front and rear. Ken Henderson and others have
> already sorted out the mounting on the GMC brackets, so it looks
> like an easy fit-up. Certainly will be a lot
> easier to lift up in place than that gorilla A6. I can't do that
> anymore!LOL
>
> Gary Kosier
>
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| [GMCnet] Photo Site Tip - (was: Starting the weekend of with a Bang) [message #91131 is a reply to message #91122] |
Mon, 05 July 2010 09:11 |
Bill Massey
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This is one big problem of the photo site. That photo of a Sanden A/C
compressor on a Cad 500 is virtually invisible. With administrative rights,
I went in and added this description of the photo "Sanden A/C Compressor
mounted low on the right of a Cad 500". Now the photo is visible by
searching for "Sanden", or "Cad", or anything else in the description. I
could have done the same thing by renaming photo but that might have messed
up the display order.
Any registered user can (and should) do this to his own photos. While
viewing the photo, just hit "Edit" in the "Additional Info" menu and add
your description. Just a key word or two will help immensely.
The point is, be sure to name and / or describe your photos if you want them
to be found. At least one or two photo descriptions in an album will make
it visible.
This is very important to enable us to find what we're looking for rather
than having to go through the whole very large box of photos.
bdub
-----Original Message-----
From: On Behalf Of Steven Ferguson
Gary,
I have already done that and published it. Check it out:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=20211&title=p1010675&c
at=3563
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Kosier <gkosier@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> I'm attempting to conjure up a bracket set-up to mount it under
> the headers on the right side of a Caddy 500.
> However, it had the standard Sanden four bolt pattern on the
> front and rear. Ken Henderson and others have
> already sorted out the mounting on the GMC brackets, so it looks
> like an easy fit-up. Certainly will be a lot
> easier to lift up in place than that gorilla A6. I can't do that
> anymore!LOL
>
> Gary Kosier
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| Re: [GMCnet] Photo Site Tip - (was: Starting the weekend of with a Bang) [message #91134 is a reply to message #91131] |
Mon, 05 July 2010 10:33 |
Steven Ferguson
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What problem Billy. When I click on the link I provided, it is clear as a bell?
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Billy Massey <bdub@pgrb.com> wrote:
> This is one big problem of the photo site. That photo of a Sanden A/C
> compressor on a Cad 500 is virtually invisible. With administrative rights,
> I went in and added this description of the photo "Sanden A/C Compressor
> mounted low on the right of a Cad 500". Now the photo is visible by
> searching for "Sanden", or "Cad", or anything else in the description. I
> could have done the same thing by renaming photo but that might have messed
> up the display order.
>
> Any registered user can (and should) do this to his own photos. While
> viewing the photo, just hit "Edit" in the "Additional Info" menu and add
> your description. Just a key word or two will help immensely.
>
> The point is, be sure to name and / or describe your photos if you want them
> to be found. At least one or two photo descriptions in an album will make
> it visible.
>
> This is very important to enable us to find what we're looking for rather
> than having to go through the whole very large box of photos.
>
> bdub
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: On Behalf Of Steven Ferguson
> Gary,
> I have already done that and published it. Check it out:
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=20211&title=p1010675&c
> at=3563
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Kosier <gkosier@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm attempting to conjure up a bracket set-up to mount it under
>> the headers on the right side of a Caddy 500.
>> However, it had the standard Sanden four bolt pattern on the
>> front and rear. Ken Henderson and others have
>> already sorted out the mounting on the GMC brackets, so it looks
>> like an easy fit-up. Certainly will be a lot
>> easier to lift up in place than that gorilla A6. I can't do that
>> anymore!LOL
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Photo Site Tip - (was: Starting the weekend of with a Bang) [message #91137 is a reply to message #91134] |
Mon, 05 July 2010 10:58 |
Bill Massey
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I don't mean literally, but virtually.
You knew where to find it, Steve. Nobody else knows where it is or that it
even exists.
The only way to find it is to use the search engine. The only way for the
search engine to find a particular photo is by its name or description. Not
even album names are searchable, but can be found by a key word in the
description of a resident photo.
Hope that's a little more clear.
bdub
-----Original Message-----
From: On Behalf Of Steven Ferguson
What problem Billy. When I click on the link I provided, it is clear as a
bell?
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Billy Massey <bdub@pgrb.com> wrote:
> This is one big problem of the photo site. That photo of a Sanden A/C
> compressor on a Cad 500 is virtually invisible. With administrative
rights,
> I went in and added this description of the photo "Sanden A/C Compressor
> mounted low on the right of a Cad 500". Now the photo is visible by
> searching for "Sanden", or "Cad", or anything else in the description. I
> could have done the same thing by renaming photo but that might have
messed
> up the display order.
>
> Any registered user can (and should) do this to his own photos. While
> viewing the photo, just hit "Edit" in the "Additional Info" menu and add
> your description. Just a key word or two will help immensely.
>
> The point is, be sure to name and / or describe your photos if you want
them
> to be found. At least one or two photo descriptions in an album will make
> it visible.
>
> This is very important to enable us to find what we're looking for rather
> than having to go through the whole very large box of photos.
>
> bdub
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| Re: [GMCnet] Photo Site Tip - (was: Starting the weekend of with a Bang) [message #91271 is a reply to message #91137] |
Tue, 06 July 2010 13:16 |
midlf
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| Bill Massey wrote on Mon, 05 July 2010 10:58 |
The only way to find it is to use the search engine. The only way for the
search engine to find a particular photo is by its name or description. Not
even album names are searchable, but can be found by a key word in the
description of a resident photo.
Hope that's a little more clear.
bdub
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And in my opinion the photos that really need a caption change is Ken Henderson's "onan Larry II" album showing the installation of the Pertronix ignition on an onan. Searching on "Onan" will not find them.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Photo Site Tip - (was: Starting the weekend of with a Bang) [message #91291 is a reply to message #91271] |
Tue, 06 July 2010 16:45 |
Ken Henderson
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Well, I tried. I changed the name to 'Onan Ignition Upgrade to Pertronix"
and added some description comments. I still didn't have much luck with
Search, but then, I never do. I couldn't figure out how to get to the
keywords field to add some of those. :-(
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net>wrote:
> find
> find
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