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Turning over engine manually? [message #90953] Sat, 03 July 2010 12:56 Go to next message
edelbach is currently offline  edelbach   United States
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I just spent more than an hour trying to access one of the bolts on the engine's front pulley in order to turn over the engine manually before starting it.

Not much room to get in there without removing the fan shroud and it looks like it will be easier to get to the ring gear on the flywheel instead. Is there a secret way to get to those bolts that I am missing?

Before I crawl under the rear of the engine, it would be nice to know if the ring gear access panel is on the starter/passenger side of the engine or somewhere else.

Thanks. Ralph - 26' Glacier
Re: [GMCnet] Turning over engine manually? [message #90957 is a reply to message #90953] Sat, 03 July 2010 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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On Jul 3, 2010, at 11:56 AM, RalphEdel wrote:

>
>
> I just spent more than an hour trying to access one of the bolts on the engine's front pulley in order to turn over the engine manually before starting it.
>
> Not much room to get in there without removing the fan shroud and it looks like it will be easier to get to the ring gear on the flywheel instead. Is there a secret way to get to those bolts that I am missing?
>
> Before I crawl under the rear of the engine, it would be nice to know if the ring gear access panel is on the starter/passenger side of the engine or somewhere else.
>
It right below the starter on the passenger side.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] Turning over engine manually? [message #90962 is a reply to message #90957] Sat, 03 July 2010 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Coit is currently offline  Ken Coit   United States
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I found that a 1-1/8" 3/4 drive socket fitted loosely to a 3/4" breaker bar
will slip in between the shroud sideways and then it can be turned into the
pulley such that it will engage the crank nut. It is pretty easy to turn
several revs to make sure nothing is hung up and distribute some oil on the
cylinder walls. A ratchet drive and an exact fit extension would make it
even easier.

You might want to paint the timing mark while you are under there. A little
cleaning, masking, spraying, and wiping is all it takes for a bright white
target.

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Raleigh, NC
Parfait Royale
1978 Royale Rear Bath, 403, 3.07
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Re: [GMCnet] Turning over engine manually? [message #90963 is a reply to message #90962] Sat, 03 July 2010 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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After you clean the timing mark area, use
"White-Out" to mark the timing mark on the
harmonic damper (or whatever it's called)
and also the desired advance point on the
"pointer bar."

* Mac Macdonald *
* USAF, Retired *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *




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> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 14:34:00 -0400
> From: ktcoit@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Turning over engine manually?
>
> I found that a 1-1/8" 3/4 drive socket fitted loosely to a 3/4" breaker bar
> will slip in between the shroud sideways and then it can be turned into the
> pulley such that it will engage the crank nut. It is pretty easy to turn
> several revs to make sure nothing is hung up and distribute some oil on the
> cylinder walls. A ratchet drive and an exact fit extension would make it
> even easier.
>
> You might want to paint the timing mark while you are under there. A little
> cleaning, masking, spraying, and wiping is all it takes for a bright white
> target.
>
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> Ken Coit, ND7N
> Raleigh, NC
> Parfait Royale
> 1978 Royale Rear Bath, 403, 3.07
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Re: [GMCnet] Turning over engine manually? [message #91004 is a reply to message #90953] Sat, 03 July 2010 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Replace the OEM fan shroud contraption with a fiberglass one from Frank
Jenkins or Bert & Faye Curtis. If not alread split, split it in two
(horizontally with angle flanges to screw together). Now you should be able
to remove the lower 1/2 shroud in <5 min. and make everything on the front
of the engine easy to access.

JWID,

Ken H.


On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:56 PM, RalphEdel <edelbach@tcnj.edu> wrote:

>
>
> I just spent more than an hour trying to access one of the bolts on the
> engine's front pulley in order to turn over the engine manually before
> starting it.
>
> Not much room to get in there without removing the fan shroud and it looks
> like it will be easier to get to the ring gear on the flywheel instead. Is
> there a secret way to get to those bolts that I am missing?...
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Re: [GMCnet] Turning over engine manually? [message #91027 is a reply to message #91004] Sun, 04 July 2010 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 03 July 2010 20:16

Replace the OEM fan shroud contraption with a fiberglass one from Frank
Jenkins or Bert & Faye Curtis. If not alread split, split it in two
(horizontally with angle flanges to screw together). Now you should be able
to remove the lower 1/2 shroud in <5 min. and make everything on the front
of the engine easy to access.

JWID,

Ken H.


That is the best mod I ever did to my coach. It took an engine fire to get me to replace it.

Ken B.





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76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: Turning over engine manually? [message #91058 is a reply to message #90953] Sun, 04 July 2010 13:04 Go to previous message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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that shroud really is an over engineered contraption. Anyhoo, if the 1-1/8 socket doesn't fit, clean all the crap off of the bolt head first!!! Surprised

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Scottsdale, AZ

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