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Gary Mau is currently offline  Gary Mau   United States
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What have those who have installed hardwood or vinyl flooring done with the raised floor in the back of the coach? Is it a removable platform or something that must remain? Did you just re-carpet it or what?

Gary Mau
Former 76 Royale owner
Davenport, IA
Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #90599 is a reply to message #90597] Wed, 30 June 2010 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fred Estabrook is currently offline  Fred Estabrook   United States
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Its a removable platform and I have done both carpet over and removed and
then carpeted. Better removed.
Fred Estabrook
76 Ell and 77 King

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> What have those who have installed hardwood or vinyl flooring done with
> the raised floor in the back of the coach? Is it a removable platform or
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Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #90602 is a reply to message #90599] Wed, 30 June 2010 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We carpet with storage as the bed is over that part of the GMC
With the hardwood floor stopping where the bed platform comes down to the
floor.
Howard

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> Its a removable platform and I have done both carpet over and removed and
> then carpeted. Better removed.
> Fred Estabrook
> 76 Ell and 77 King
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Gary Mau <garyemau@aol.com> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> What have those who have installed hardwood or vinyl flooring done with
>> the raised floor in the back of the coach? Is it a removable platform or
>> something that must remain? Did you just re-carpet it or what?
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>> 76 Royale
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Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #90610 is a reply to message #90597] Thu, 01 July 2010 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just removed it. It is held on by a few wood screws.

Len and Pat
78 Kingsley, The Beast II with dash lights that work
Fallbrook, CA

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What have those who have installed hardwood or vinyl flooring done with
the raised floor in the back of the coach? Is it a removable platform or
something that must remain? Did you just re-carpet it or what?
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76 Royale
Davenport, IA
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Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #90613 is a reply to message #90597] Thu, 01 July 2010 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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here is some info on that

http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/tech/tiltbed/index.html

gene



>
> What have those who have installed hardwood or vinyl flooring done with
> the raised floor in the back of the coach? Is it a removable platform or
> something that must remain? Did you just re-carpet it or what?
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #90631 is a reply to message #90613] Thu, 01 July 2010 08:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Removed and carpeted. Our floor was rotted out underneath.

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> here is some info on that
>
> http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/tech/tiltbed/index.html
>
> gene
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> >
> > What have those who have installed hardwood or vinyl flooring done with
> > the raised floor in the back of the coach? Is it a removable platform or
> > something that must remain? Did you just re-carpet it or what?
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Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #90632 is a reply to message #90597] Thu, 01 July 2010 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Remove it. It is just a raised platform screwed into the existing floor.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Gary Mau <garyemau@aol.com> wrote:
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>   What have those who have installed hardwood or vinyl flooring done with the raised floor in the back of the coach?  Is it a removable platform or something that must remain?  Did you just re-carpet it or what?
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Re: Flooring Installation [message #90669 is a reply to message #90597] Thu, 01 July 2010 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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I tore mine out. My raised floor and the floor under it were rotten. You can see photos in my album. search username chrisc.

it came out pretty easily. regular floor below it.


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Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #90706 is a reply to message #90631] Thu, 01 July 2010 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is how we installed the pergo last december.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5344

JR Wright
On Jul 1, 2010, at 9:09 AM, pete lyons wrote:

> Removed and carpeted. Our floor was rotted out underneath.
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher
> <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> here is some info on that
>>
>> http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/tech/tiltbed/index.html
>>
>> gene
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> What have those who have installed hardwood or vinyl flooring
>>> done with
>>> the raised floor in the back of the coach? Is it a removable
>>> platform or
>>> something that must remain? Did you just re-carpet it or what?
>>> --
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Re: Flooring Installation [message #90763 is a reply to message #90597] Thu, 01 July 2010 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Mau is currently offline  Gary Mau   United States
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Thanks everyone for all the good info. My main concern was that the raised floor was put in then the cabinet and bed framing built on top of it (Royale rear twin bed floor plan).

Gary Mau
Former 76 Royale owner
Davenport, IA
Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #90811 is a reply to message #90706] Fri, 02 July 2010 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is how we installed the pergo last december.
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Jon
Why did you remove the attractive neutral colored tile?

Were you having issues with the tiles?

I am embarking on the floor because I am tired of trying to keep that darn carpet clean.

My coach is OAK cabinetry and I am afraid the imatation wood laminate floor will be too much wood look....

Also considering cork and marble look vinyl tiles....

Any heads up here?

Thanks

LarC ( Out with the BAD, errr I mean carpet, In with the good )



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Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #90815 is a reply to message #90811] Fri, 02 July 2010 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have oak cabinets and used oak flooring

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4406

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4862




Len and Pat
78 Kingsley, The Beast II with dash lights that work
Fallbrook, CA

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www.bdub.net/novak/

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This is how we installed the pergo last december.
________________________________________________________

Jon
Why did you remove the attractive neutral colored tile?

Were you having issues with the tiles?

I am embarking on the floor because I am tired of trying to keep that darn
carpet clean.

My coach is OAK cabinetry and I am afraid the imatation wood laminate floor
will be too much wood look....

Also considering cork and marble look vinyl tiles....

Any heads up here?

Thanks

LarC ( Out with the BAD, errr I mean carpet, In with the good )


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Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #90817 is a reply to message #90815] Fri, 02 July 2010 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is also laminate flooring that has an tile look to it. See it at Home Depot. I'm sure that there are other suppliers of this product. I'm thinking of this for my (house) ktchen and entry way.

Tom Phipps,
with laminate wood look flooring.
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Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #90831 is a reply to message #90811] Fri, 02 July 2010 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,

Like you our main reason to go with the Pergo flooring was it was
easier to keep clean. When had spent the previous 2 winters in
Florida and with all the sand in the carpet. Removing the tile was
more out of connivence as it made it easier to do install the Pergo
flooring. Never had any problems with the ceramic tile, it was in the
coach for 8 years. I would install it again under the right design.

When you put the new wood flooring in don't go cheap! The Pergo came
with the foam backing already installed and looked and felt like a
real wood floor. There are other brands that are similar too! Beware
of the stuff that looks like the finish was printed on the surface and
is real smooth.

There are several rules you should follow when putting tile in an RV.

I installed it right over the original floor as it was in good shape.
I just took some thinset and filled in any rough spots. I would avoid
putting and underlayment down as it raises the tile too much. If you
have to use underlayment find the thinest you can find, I wouldn't go
more than 3/16" at most, 1/8" if you can find it. . Be sure to glue
and screw or staple.

First always use a good quality latex thinset tile adhesive. I would
avoid the premixed and buy the bag only. I had to beat the tile off
the floor, it had stuck very well.

Never install the tile so it is touching the baseboard or modules.
Alway leave about 1/4" gap around edges because of the coach does
flex. You can buy a colored silicone to finish off the outside edges.

If you have to cut the tile be sure to use a small round file to
relieve the inside corner to prevent a crack.

As for grout I recommend the premixed color of your choice, but do not
use it around the outside edge.

I don't like vinyl as I think it gets damaged too easily and you can/t
really fix it.

J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
TZE Zone Restorations
77 Eleganza Custom (For Sale)
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan



>
>
> This is how we installed the pergo last december.
> ________________________________________________________
>
> Jon
> Why did you remove the attractive neutral colored tile?
>
> Were you having issues with the tiles?
>
> I am embarking on the floor because I am tired of trying to keep
> that darn carpet clean.
>
> My coach is OAK cabinetry and I am afraid the imatation wood
> laminate floor will be too much wood look....
>
> Also considering cork and marble look vinyl tiles....
>
> Any heads up here?
>
> Thanks
>
> LarC ( Out with the BAD, errr I mean carpet, In with the good )
>

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Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #90986 is a reply to message #90831] Sat, 03 July 2010 17:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I installed it right over the original floor as it was in good shape.
____________________________________________________

My PO, put a raised floor over the original. As with all his other projects, he didn't do this one right either.

where the ply butts together in the hallway, there is no support underneath so I have flex. This was hidden under the carpet.

Also, there was a spot that he ran out of plywood so he used prices cut from a cardboard box to fill in.

========================================

I just took some thinset and filled in any rough spots. I would avoid putting and underlayment down as it raises the tile too much.
______________________________________

I really like the way your tile looked, but I have become weight conscious when it comes to the GMC.
My interior is OAK so I need to stay away from a wood grained flooring. Thats just me, I have a phobia to a lot of wood surfaces.

=========================================

I don't like vinyl as I think it gets damaged too easily and you can/t really fix it.
_______________________________________

I think you might be looking at this wrong. The vinyl tile gives you an excellant tough surface for wear and tear, its cheap and is much easier to replace if need be.

My goal is just to get that dirty carpet out and try to fix the problems the PO created as I have for everything else he had done. ( Every project has had his touch and generally a big job to fix what he did wrong. )

As with the carpet, he put a nice heavy carpet in, it just cannot be cleaned. I have tried a couple times but this last time it just would not clean up.

The Carpet HAS TO GO ! !

I also have a full sized bed ( guess who put that mess in ), that when you try to open it, it tears up the window screens and walls. You have to LITERALLY take it APART to get at the water pump so I have not used the water system for a couple years now.

I am wanting to go with the old opposing seats, which was the original design, and tile the floor there too.

I am a BIG BELEIVER in throw rugs. when they need cleaning, you take em outside and hose em down. If they don't come clean, go to target and get a new one. This wall to wall stuff was a BAAAAD IDEA.


LarC ( Trying to keep the PO out of the conversation but he is so TALENTED, I think his name was Dudley DoRight )



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Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #91100 is a reply to message #90986] Sun, 04 July 2010 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry C wrote on Sat, 03 July 2010 17:09

LarC (Trying to keep the PO out of the conversation but he is so TALENTED, I think his name was Dudley DoRight )




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Re: [GMCnet] Flooring Installation [message #91104 is a reply to message #91100] Sun, 04 July 2010 21:53 Go to previous message
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Don't hold back LarC. Tell us what you really think. <GRIN>
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Laughing
Well you know, I rally AM HOLDING BACK !
He said he was a perfecionist.

LarC ( A PERFECTIONIST Laughing Laughing Laughing )



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