| Chucks Wheel bearing Greaser [message #90220] |
Sun, 27 June 2010 22:53  |
OregonJimmy
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I am in the process of greasing my wheel bearings before my first long summer trip and I have quickly ran up against what I am sure is a simple question. I have started with the passenger side and with the wheel off, loosened the axle nut and pushed the axle in. But I can't get the axle to slide in far enough to get the greaser to slide inside to make contact with the bearing seal and inner axle shaft. It is about 1/8 inch short of being out enough. Its not the nut holding it from sliding in further, it feels like the axle bottoms out in the transfer case and wont go further...what am I missing?
Ron Yoder
1977 Eleganza II
Oregon
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| Re: Chucks Wheel bearing Greaser [message #90274 is a reply to message #90254] |
Mon, 28 June 2010 11:17  |
OregonJimmy
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Well Gil at least that is partly reassuring that is not "Just me" with this new tool :<)
Did you try removing a shock absorber to see if that gave more play with the hub to possibly eech out more space? I don't want to start pulling more of the suspension apart if I can avoid it.
Ron Yoder
1977 Eleganza II
Oregon
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| Re: Chucks Wheel bearing Greaser [message #90291 is a reply to message #90274] |
Mon, 28 June 2010 12:38 |
midlf
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| OregonJimmy wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 11:17 |
Well Gil at least that is partly reassuring that is not "Just me" with this new tool :<)
Did you try removing a shock absorber to see if that gave more play with the hub to possibly eech out more space? I don't want to start pulling more of the suspension apart if I can avoid it.
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OK - I just got done swapping out the lower a-arms on my 75 transmode. If I was faced with this clearance question I would pop the upper ball joint loose. The method shown in the maint manual works just fine. Then the knuckle can be tipped out giving the extra room. The shock disconnect may not give you what you need without also disconnecting the sway bar.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Chucks Wheel bearing Greaser [message #90299 is a reply to message #90295] |
Mon, 28 June 2010 13:34 |
midlf
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| emerystora wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 13:07 |
Boy, I am sure happy that I used the Kanomata drill jig to install Zerk fittings into my knuckles. I sure wouldn't want to go to all the work you are describing just to grease the front bearings.
Emery Stora
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Yep - the JimK/Gene Zerk drilling tool is in my future now that I have in spec measurements after checking my knuckles and hubs. As they are in spec I don't have to send them to Lenzi so I will do the Zerk installation myself. Made easier 'cause the whole front end is apart for bushings and lower A-arm reinforcement.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: Chucks Wheel bearing Greaser [message #90323 is a reply to message #90220] |
Mon, 28 June 2010 17:44 |
fred v
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a friend has Wallace hubs on his coach. will Chuck's part be able to do the job? do these have a std. bearing set in it's original position so the drill jig would work? i've looked at the Wallace pictures but cannot tell if either of these will work.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: Chucks Wheel bearing Greaser [message #90338 is a reply to message #90323] |
Mon, 28 June 2010 19:20 |
midlf
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| fred v wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 17:44 |
a friend has Wallace hubs on his coach. will Chuck's part be able to do the job? do these have a std. bearing set in it's original position so the drill jig would work? i've looked at the Wallace pictures but cannot tell if either of these will work.
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Emory says Wallace hubs have grease fittings. I also thought the Wallace Bearing Hub came with grease Zerk's. See this flier:
http://www.bdub.net/publications/Wallace_Bearings/Wallace_Bearings1.htm
It mentions grease "certs".
The second page of the flier:
http://www.bdub.net/publications/Wallace_Bearings/Wallace_Bearings2.htm
specifically states grease "certs" and that the bearings can be greased without removing the wheel or the hub.
They should be there, you just have to find them.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: Chucks Wheel bearing Greaser [message #90344 is a reply to message #90274] |
Mon, 28 June 2010 19:55 |
Gil Slaw
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Ron,
No, I did not release the shocks, frankly I didn't think of that: however I am glad that I did not!!! because when I took things apart to do the "heavy duty 1 ton" front end kit I found that both lower ball joints were well beyond "shot". The right side joint rivet was very loose and the joint was about to separate. The left side had 1/4 " of vertical play. One wheel bearing was very loose and all of the rubber bushings were completely ossified! as was was the sway bar stuff. The upper joints and tie rod ends look good, but I will replace them.
I don't think that I would have seen much of these problems without disassembling the front end. The shake and wiggle test didn't show much.
For reference, my coach has about 75,000 easy miles on it.
Ron, the greaser looks like a very good tool if it will work for your application. It did not work for mine.
Many of us (me too) are preoccupied with the front bearings and we tend to forget about the other weak parts in an in an over stressed Oldsmobile front end such as the ball joints, bushings and shocks.
Anyhow to answer your question Ron, releasing the shock MAY have gotten me the 2mm that I needed,,,but I doubt it.
Gil Slaw
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| Re: Chucks Wheel bearing Greaser [message #90350 is a reply to message #90323] |
Mon, 28 June 2010 20:33 |
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| fred v wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 18:44 |
a friend has Wallace hubs on his coach. will Chuck's part be able to do the job? do these have a std. bearing set in it's original position so the drill jig would work? i've looked at the Wallace pictures but cannot tell if either of these will work.
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I have Wallace hubs and yes they do have zerk fittings they are back in the dark and hard to see but they are there.
Larry Dilk
Indianapolis, IN
76 Eleganza II
Patterson 455,Turbo City TBI,
Just LOVE It!
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| Re: [GMCnet] Chucks Wheel bearing Greaser [message #90363 is a reply to message #90335] |
Mon, 28 June 2010 21:38 |
fred v
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| emerystora wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 19:04 |
On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:44 PM, fred veenschoten <fredntoni@cox.net> wrote:
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> a friend has Wallace hubs on his coach. will Chuck's part be able to
> do the job? do these have a std. bearing set in it's original
> position so the drill jig would work? i've looked at the Wallace
> pictures but cannot tell if either of these will work.
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> Fred V
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??????????
You better look at those hubs. All the Wallace hubs that I have seen
already have a Zerk fitting to grease them.
Emery Stora
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thanks,i have not seen them yet, i was told that a front end shop tore one of them down and it had 3 bearings in it. it's back up and running so i hope to see it soon.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: Chucks Wheel bearing Greaser [message #90365 is a reply to message #90350] |
Mon, 28 June 2010 21:44 |
fred v
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| GMCNUSA wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 20:33 |
| fred v wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 18:44 |
a friend has Wallace hubs on his coach. will Chuck's part be able to do the job? do these have a std. bearing set in it's original position so the drill jig would work? i've looked at the Wallace pictures but cannot tell if either of these will work.
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I have Wallace hubs and yes they do have zerk fittings they are back in the dark and hard to see but they are there.
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thanks, what is your opinion of them?
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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