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A little while ago I read either an ad or an article about a new type of plumbing trap that is straight and can be installed at any angle instead of the traditional P-trap. I am interested in using one but cannot find the information. Does anyone know where I can find info on it?

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Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap? [message #90177 is a reply to message #90172] Sun, 27 June 2010 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Armand
There was one in the New Products section of a recent FMCA magazine --
perhaps two months ago. I will try to find it this evening if someone
else hasn't already posted.

Dennis
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On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Armand Minnie <armand@minniebiz.com> wrote:

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>
> A little while ago I read either an ad or an article about a new
> type of plumbing trap that is straight and can be installed at any
> angle instead of the traditional P-trap. I am interested in using
> one but cannot find the information. Does anyone know where I can
> find info on it?
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> Marana, AZ
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> TZE166V103202
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Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap? [message #90178 is a reply to message #90172] Sun, 27 June 2010 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here's diagrams of it's uses.

http://www.canplasplumbing.com/pages/whats_new/wo362_IDS_flyer.pdf

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Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap? [message #90179 is a reply to message #90177] Sun, 27 June 2010 18:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
armandminnie is currently offline  armandminnie   United States
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Dennis,
Thanks for the suggestion of FMCA magazine - I had looked there before using their search function but found nothing. Now found it in their "House Calls" column in May. Here it is: http://www.fmcmagazine.com/index.php/back-issues/2010/may/6360-house-calls-may-2010

Thanks again.


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Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap? [message #90182 is a reply to message #90177] Sun, 27 June 2010 18:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
armandminnie is currently offline  armandminnie   United States
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On further investigation it seems the product is available in the UK but apparently not in the US yet. I sent them an inquiry about it.

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Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap? [message #90183 is a reply to message #90179] Sun, 27 June 2010 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't think this will replace the "P" trap. It can be used along side it.
The "P" trap is used to prevent sewer gas from coming up in to the room.
Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap? [message #90185 is a reply to message #90178] Sun, 27 June 2010 19:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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comcast wrote on Sun, 27 June 2010 16:25

Here's diagrams of it's uses.

http://www.canplasplumbing.com/pages/whats_new/wo362_IDS_flyer.pdf

Roger Black
77 Birchaven
Burns, Tn




The item shown in this website is a strainer, not a trap and is not a substitute for a trap. It is an additional item, the trap is still needed.

I can't open the FMCA link so I don't know if that is the same thing.


Rob Allen
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Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap? [message #90186 is a reply to message #90183] Sun, 27 June 2010 19:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
armandminnie is currently offline  armandminnie   United States
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Actually, the article says it does replace the P-trap with a valve that allows water and vapors to pass in only one direction. My bet is that it is not available in the states due to building codes not (yet) allowing it. Probably RVs would be OK since they are not subject to the same restrictions.

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Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap? [message #90188 is a reply to message #90179] Sun, 27 June 2010 18:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Armand,

Glad you found it -- when I first saw it I thought about it for the shower drain since it appears it would prevent an overfull black tank from backing up onto the shower floor.







Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
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Dennis,
hanks for the suggestion of FMCA magazine - I had looked there before using
heir search function but found nothing. Now found it in their "House Calls"
olumn in May. Here it is: http://www.fmcmagazine.com/index.php/back-issues/2010/may/6360-house-calls-may-2010
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Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap? [message #90192 is a reply to message #90178] Sun, 27 June 2010 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icky, something else to clean.

I would rather macerate ;>)
gene




> Here's diagrams of it's uses.
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> http://www.canplasplumbing.com/pages/whats_new/wo362_IDS_flyer.pdf
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Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap? [message #90193 is a reply to message #90186] Sun, 27 June 2010 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All,

We have been talking about the Hepvo waterless drain trap...

Here is a link to the Casita forum -- note they mention the trap has been approved for RV use in US since 2007 and they show pricing and a supplier..

http://www.casitaclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13087


Dennis Sexton
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Germantown, TN
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Actually, the article says it does replace the P-trap with a valve that allows
ater and vapors to pass in only one direction. My bet is that it is not
vailable in the states due to building codes not (yet) allowing it. Probably
Vs would be OK since they are not subject to the same restrictions.
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Re: new type of plumbing trap? [message #90204 is a reply to message #90172] Sun, 27 June 2010 20:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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armandminnie wrote on Sun, 27 June 2010 18:53

A little while ago I read either an ad or an article about a new type of plumbing trap that is straight and can be installed at any angle instead of the traditional P-trap. I am interested in using one but cannot find the information. Does anyone know where I can find info on it?

Is this what you are looking for?
url<http://www.jazzsales.com/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=hepvo&product_id=774>
Matt


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Re: new type of plumbing trap? [message #90215 is a reply to message #90172] Sun, 27 June 2010 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,
Yep I have had one of those HepVO valves for a couple of years now.
When we purchased our GMC it had a side dry bath, one of the desirables on Gail's list.
When we had got it home I tried it out properly and didn't like it, way too small, I'm 6'2".
So we ripped the whole bathroom out and built one to the side at the rear,the bed is on the other side.
By using the HepVO I was able to put my shower base on the floor, giving us a good sized full height shower that we love to use.
I have mounted the HepVO valve under the floor about 4"to the side of the shower drain and then plumbed it to the tank, never had a problem with it.


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Re: new type of plumbing trap? [message #90221 is a reply to message #90204] Sun, 27 June 2010 23:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is it!! Thanks.

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Re: new type of plumbing trap? [message #90223 is a reply to message #90221] Sun, 27 June 2010 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yea, I like this deal. Dennis, I think it will prevent backup in the shower but I like my stopper. Also, like Gene said, run the maserator more often.
Thanks for bringing this up Armand.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap? [message #90224 is a reply to message #90215] Sun, 27 June 2010 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mark,

I was hoping you'd respond to this thread to confirm they're the ones you
used.

I'll call and order a couple of them tomorrow!

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Bennett

G'day,
Yep I have had one of those HepVO valves for a couple of years now.
When we purchased our GMC it had a side dry bath, one of the desirables on
Gail's list.

I have mounted the HepVO valve under the floor about 4"to the side of the
shower drain and then plumbed it to the tank, never had a problem with it.

Mark Bennett

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Re: new type of plumbing trap? [message #90225 is a reply to message #90223] Sun, 27 June 2010 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have two places where I might be able to use the waterless trap. I am putting a nine inch deep sink in the new kitchen cabinet I am building and I don't know if I have room to use the standard P-trap. The shower drain p-trap is sunk into the floor in a fiberglass bowl that comes out into the hallway and will interfere with the new floor that I will be installing. I am thinking that if I replace the p-trap I might be able to at least reduce the size of the bowl and get it out of the hallway.

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Re: new type of plumbing trap? [message #90271 is a reply to message #90225] Mon, 28 June 2010 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Armand,

If your goal is to get the trap out of your sink cabinet, you could do what Fin Bevin did during his galley remodel:

<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=24238&title=galley-08-3-trap-1-of-1-&cat=6>

This looks looks a good idea and will give you more space under there.


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Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap? [message #90275 is a reply to message #90271] Mon, 28 June 2010 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fin Beven sure has a nice looking coach there!

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:58:55 -0500
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] new type of plumbing trap?

Armand,

If your goal is to get the trap out of your sink cabinet, you could do what Fin Bevin did during his galley remodel:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=24238&title=galley-08-3-trap-1-of-1-&cat=6

This looks looks a good idea and will give you more space under there.
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Re: new type of plumbing trap? [message #90281 is a reply to message #90172] Mon, 28 June 2010 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I wanted the room that a trap takes up under the sink for storage of ....stuff... So I ran a right angle off of the sink drain and ran it to the back wall. Did another right angle and placed the trap against the back wall. It now has a trap, but it is out of the way allowing more storage space under the sink. Then took an idea from another GMC'r and instead of glueing them together, placed a hose clamp around the joint. Clamps it up just fine...no leaks and I can take it apart easily if it needs moving or gets plugged. JWID

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