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[GMCnet] Fresh and black water tank sizes [message #89565] Tue, 22 June 2010 18:32 Go to next message
bhayes is currently offline  bhayes   United States
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Has anyone ever looked into increasing the size of the fresh and black water
tanks? As my wife and I are looking at GMCs for us and our four kids, we're
concerned about the size of the tanks. We like dry camping, so having tanks
that can last at least a few days with the kids is important to us.

I've read that both the fresh water and black water tanks are around 35-40
gallons (not sure if the Royales are different). It looks like a larger
fresh water tank could be put under the front couch, but I don't know what
kind of room there is underneath the coach for a larger black water tank.

Also, any drawbacks to having just a black water tank instead of gray and
black water tanks?

Thanks,
Bryan Hayes
GMCless in Salt Lake City
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Re: [GMCnet] Fresh and black water tank sizes [message #89567 is a reply to message #89565] Tue, 22 June 2010 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Bryan,
A few thoughts,
- carry separate bottled water
- with 4 children you may be a good candidate for a recirculting toilet
- call JimK about the extra 19 gallon black tank that fits on some coaches.
- get an outdoor shower to reduce grey water (at least for the children)




Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA



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From: Bryan Hayes <bhayes@byu.net>
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Subject: [GMCnet] Fresh and black water tank sizes


Has anyone ever looked into increasing the size of the fresh and black water
anks? As my wife and I are looking at GMCs for us and our four kids, we're
oncerned about the size of the tanks. We like dry camping, so having tanks
hat can last at least a few days with the kids is important to us.
I've read that both the fresh water and black water tanks are around 35-40
allons (not sure if the Royales are different). It looks like a larger
resh water tank could be put under the front couch, but I don't know what
ind of room there is underneath the coach for a larger black water tank.
Also, any drawbacks to having just a black water tank instead of gray and
lack water tanks?
Thanks,
ryan Hayes
MCless in Salt Lake City
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Re: [GMCnet] Fresh and black water tank sizes [message #89568 is a reply to message #89567] Tue, 22 June 2010 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Keep in mind:
Fresh water should kept inside so it will not freeze, good to have a gray
tank for the shower and sink water to be bled off when your gray water fills
up.
That is the big draw back of the standard units. I prefer the separate gray
and black.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 5:06 PM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:

>
> Bryan,
> A few thoughts,
> - carry separate bottled water
> - with 4 children you may be a good candidate for a recirculting toilet
> - call JimK about the extra 19 gallon black tank that fits on some coaches.
> - get an outdoor shower to reduce grey water (at least for the children)
>
>
>
>
> Dennis Sexton
> 73 GMC
> Germantown, TN
> USA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Hayes <bhayes@byu.net>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Tue, Jun 22, 2010 6:32 pm
> Subject: [GMCnet] Fresh and black water tank sizes
>
>
> Has anyone ever looked into increasing the size of the fresh and black
> water
> anks? As my wife and I are looking at GMCs for us and our four kids, we're
> oncerned about the size of the tanks. We like dry camping, so having tanks
> hat can last at least a few days with the kids is important to us.
> I've read that both the fresh water and black water tanks are around 35-40
> allons (not sure if the Royales are different). It looks like a larger
> resh water tank could be put under the front couch, but I don't know what
> ind of room there is underneath the coach for a larger black water tank.
> Also, any drawbacks to having just a black water tank instead of gray and
> lack water tanks?
> Thanks,
> ryan Hayes
> MCless in Salt Lake City
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Re: [GMCnet] Fresh and black water tank sizes [message #89573 is a reply to message #89568] Tue, 22 June 2010 20:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Dennis has excellent suggestions.
You can be creative. We do a lot of dry camping however it is just Teri and I. We can run a couple of weeks on a tank. I carry portable 6 gallon jugs to carry off waste, using the macerator.
Outdoor shower, for kids, will help. I do the outside shower inside.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Fresh and black water tank sizes [message #89580 is a reply to message #89573] Tue, 22 June 2010 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I added a second drain to the shower like Dan and Teri did. Regardless of what you do, you also have to consider the beer factor.

When at a campground, send the kids to the campground bathroom to pee.

I have a larger fresh than black tank. I do have room for the second tank, but I will wait and see...


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Re: [GMCnet] Fresh and black water tank sizes [message #89592 is a reply to message #89565] Wed, 23 June 2010 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my Royale has a replacement black tank that is smaller than the original but i understand Jim K. has a larger one. my wife and i can go 4 days max on the black tank. also in the rear bath model the bathroom sink drains into the black so we don't use that sink. we attach a hose to the outlet and drain the gray tank into the woods where allowed.


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Re: [GMCnet] Fresh and black water tank sizes [message #89607 is a reply to message #89580] Wed, 23 June 2010 09:44 Go to previous message
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Chr$ wrote on Tue, 22 June 2010 22:27

I added a second drain to the shower like Dan and Teri did. Regardless of what you do, you also have to consider the beer factor.

When at a campground, send the kids to the campground bathroom to pee.

I have a larger fresh than black tank. I do have room for the second tank, but I will wait and see...



Chris, did you do the sink drains also? That will save a lot of space.
You can add another fresh water tank pretty easy. I see all sizes and shapes on ebay. teri and I just cary drinking water from home in jugs, but we do not have children in the coach with us.
Dan


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