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[GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm. [message #88921]

Wed, 16 June 2010 22:24

dngmissett

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I'm trying to��adjust the arm on a remote�Velvac mirror and the 3/16 Allen screw is frozen and I'm afraid I'm�getting close to rounding it out *+&^%$. Anyone have any tricks they would be willing to share ? I'm afraid to get anywhere near it with heat and ruin the paint.�I've tried an 18V cordless impact and no luck.�All other allen screws on these mirrors are good to go but this bugger will not budge. Appreciate any suggestions or techniques.
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Dick Missett
Wyoming, PA
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Re: [GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm. [message #88922 is a reply to message #88921]

Wed, 16 June 2010 22:35

James Hupy

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Use a hot air heat gun, stay away 6-8 in. When it is good and warm, 150-180
Degrees F., put a piece of parafin wax on the screw and give it 15 min or so
to penetrate. I sometimes use a hand impact wrench with a socket allen.
These things will loosen stubborn japanese motorcycle phillips clutch cover
screws without screwing up the heads. It works for me most of the time.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
1978 Royale 403

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Dick Missett <dngmissett@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm trying to adjust the arm on a remote Velvac mirror and the 3/16 Allen
> screw is frozen and I'm afraid I'm getting close to rounding it out *+&^%$.
> Anyone have any tricks they would be willing to share ? I'm afraid to get
> anywhere near it with heat and ruin the paint. I've tried an 18V cordless
> impact and no luck. All other allen screws on these mirrors are good to go
> but this bugger will not budge. Appreciate any suggestions or techniques.
>
>
> Dick Missett
> Wyoming, PA
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Re: [GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm. [message #88926 is a reply to message #88921]

Wed, 16 June 2010 23:22

Terry Skinner

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let the allen wrench be the conductor of the heat. Put the long end in
the set screw and apply twisting with a pair of vice grips and heat in
the middle. Has worked for me...........Terry

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Dick Missett <dngmissett@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to��adjust the arm on a remote�Velvac mirror and the 3/16 Allen screw is frozen and I'm afraid I'm�getting close to rounding it out *+&^%$. Anyone have any tricks they would be willing to share ? I'm afraid to get anywhere near it with heat and ruin the paint.�I've tried an 18V cordless impact and no luck.�All other allen screws on these mirrors are good to go but this bugger will not budge. Appreciate any suggestions or techniques.
>
>
> Dick Missett
> Wyoming, PA
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Re: [GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm. [message #88933 is a reply to message #88926]

Thu, 17 June 2010 01:43

Ken Burton

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Heat the allen screw directly with a soldering iron. Then soak cool it with Kroil. Then heat again in a few minutes. Repeat several times. A soldering iron tip is around 400 degrees but it is only heating the screw and won't hurt the paint.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

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Re: [GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm. [message #88937 is a reply to message #88921]

Thu, 17 June 2010 03:28

peter bailey

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There is a freezing agent available in aerosol cans and I have used this to
remove stubborn screws in the drip rail and it works for me but you have to
be quick spray onto the offending subject and it shrinks the metals allowing
it to release.
Peter Bailey
from Ozy (Aussie)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Missett" <dngmissett@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:54 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm.

I'm trying to adjust the arm on a remote Velvac mirror and the 3/16 Allen
screw is frozen and I'm afraid I'm getting close to rounding it out *+&^%$.
Anyone have any tricks they would be willing to share ? I'm afraid to get
anywhere near it with heat and ruin the paint. I've tried an 18V cordless
impact and no luck. All other allen screws on these mirrors are good to go
but this bugger will not budge. Appreciate any suggestions or techniques.

Dick Missett
Wyoming, PA
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Re: [GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm. [message #88942 is a reply to message #88921]

Thu, 17 June 2010 06:25

k2gkk

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Folks who wrench on older Japanese motorcycles learn early on
that the aluminum Phillips head screws strip easily when you
try to remove them. We use a manual impact driver on which
you put a twist with one hand and then whack the driver with
a hammer using the other hand. They work quite well.

The other replies you have received should probably be
combined with the use of the impact driver.

You may have to resort to partially drilling the Allen screw
and using an EZ-Out or completely drilling the screw out.

Be CAREFUL with this. You DON"T want to break the EZ-Out!!!

* Mac Macdonald *
* USAF, Retired *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *

Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:24:27 -0700
From: dngmissett@yahoo.com
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm.

I'm trying to adjust the arm on a remote Velvac mirror and the 3/16 Allen screw is frozen and I'm afraid I'm getting close to rounding it out *+&^%$. Anyone have any tricks they would be willing to share ? I'm afraid to get anywhere near it with heat and ruin the paint. I've tried an 18V cordless impact and no luck. All other allen screws on these mirrors are good to go but this bugger will not budge. Appreciate any suggestions or techniques.

Dick Missett
Wyoming, PA
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Re: [GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm. [message #88947 is a reply to message #88921]

Thu, 17 June 2010 07:43

Rusty

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I discovered this recently, better the kroil

http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/90-547-specialty-lubricants-/pb-blaster-penetrating-oil-101077.aspx

Rusty
75 Glenbrook
Philadelphia Pa

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Re: [GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm. [message #88960 is a reply to message #88947]

Thu, 17 June 2010 08:25

Mr ERFisher

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or this
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5305

cheap, cheap, cheap

and better

gene

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Rusty <gmc@bauerlein.com> wrote:

>
>
> I discovered this recently, better the kroil
>
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/90-547-specialty-lubricants-/pb-blaster-penetrating-oil-101077.aspx
> --
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> 75 Glenbrook
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Re: [GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm. [message #88974 is a reply to message #88960]

Thu, 17 June 2010 10:05

Harry

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Try to tighten it then loosen.

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Re: [GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm. [message #89154 is a reply to message #88937]

Fri, 18 June 2010 20:51

jimk

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Need to tighten it slightly also and save the hole for removal.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Peter Bailey <bugeye@internode.on.net>wrote:

> There is a freezing agent available in aerosol cans and I have used this to
> remove stubborn screws in the drip rail and it works for me but you have to
> be quick spray onto the offending subject and it shrinks the metals
> allowing
> it to release.
> Peter Bailey
> from Ozy (Aussie)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dick Missett" <dngmissett@yahoo.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:54 PM
> Subject: [GMCnet] Frozen Allen Screw in mirror arm.
>
>
> I'm trying to adjust the arm on a remote Velvac mirror and the 3/16 Allen
> screw is frozen and I'm afraid I'm getting close to rounding it out *+&^%$.
> Anyone have any tricks they would be willing to share ? I'm afraid to get
> anywhere near it with heat and ruin the paint. I've tried an 18V cordless
> impact and no luck. All other allen screws on these mirrors are good to go
> but this bugger will not budge. Appreciate any suggestions or techniques.
>
>
> Dick Missett
> Wyoming, PA
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