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USAussie
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G’day,
This subject comes up constantly with people that are looking for GMC’s. I
did a search on Gene's website for "bed" and nothing came up. I'd suggest we
put together a listing of the various GMC models and their bed sizes. List
the advantages and disadvantages also. When the list is done Gene can post
it on his website to help prospective GMC buyers decide which is best for
them.
I’ll start with my 26” Avion:
Driver side length as measured in the center of the bed from the rear wall
just below the window to the wall of the bathroom: 74 inches.
Driver side width as measured from the side wall of the coach to the side of
the dresser / nightstand in between the beds: 34 inches
Passenger side length as measured in the center of the bed from the rear
wall just below the window to the wall of the closet: 74 inches.
Passenger side width as measured from the side wall of the coach to the side
of the dresser / nightstand in between the beds: 34 inches
Advantages of rear twin bed:
1) Don’t disturb partner to use the bathroom in the middle of the night.
2) Don’t have to make up the beds nightly.
3) Dresser / nightstand between the beds.
Disadvantages:
1) Anyone over 6 feet tall used to sleeping in a Queen or King sized beds
(80 inches long) may have problems sleeping in a bed 5 inches shorter. If
they are used to sleeping in a California King (84 inches long) the problem
could be worse.
Additional advantages / disadvantages solicited.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes [message #88352 is a reply to message #88315] |
Sun, 13 June 2010 08:43  |
Ray Erspamer
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Rob
I snored like a bulldozer, Lisa was ready to kill me. I went in for a sleep study and found out I have sleep apnea. Got a C-Pap machine.....not only do I not snore at all anymore, I sleep like a rock and I feel 100% better with more energy than I've ever had.
You may want to consider looking into it.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 10:39:22 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes
Jackie,
Excellent, I never thought of that! Guess that's because I snore and Helen
deserted me for the guest bedroom. ;-)
Thanks,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie
Rob:
Disadvantage with the twin beds...not be able to snuggle up next to your
significant other. But then maybe that is an advantage?
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78 GMC Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes [message #88366 is a reply to message #88352] |
Sun, 13 June 2010 10:47 |
midlf
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| Ray Erspamer wrote on Sun, 13 June 2010 08:43 |
Rob
I snored like a bulldozer, Lisa was ready to kill me. I went in for a sleep study and found out I have sleep apnea. Got a C-Pap machine.....not only do I not snore at all anymore, I sleep like a rock and I feel 100% better with more energy than I've ever had.
You may want to consider looking into it.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
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I had a friend who was diagnosed with sleep apnea, told it was so bad he should ALWAYS use his CPAP. One night he didn't, died in his sleep and the death was attributed to sleep apnea. This is not something to take casually.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes [message #88410 is a reply to message #88366] |
Sun, 13 June 2010 15:58 |
Ray Erspamer
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During my sleep study, the first 3 hours they said I woke up 90 times......after I put the CPAP on, the remainder of the night I woke up 3 times.....it has changed my life and I wouldn't sleep without it. I even have a 12vdc model I take in the motorhome with us.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 10:47:33 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes
Ray Erspamer wrote on Sun, 13 June 2010 08:43
> Rob
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> I snored like a bulldozer, Lisa was ready to kill me. I went in for a sleep study and found out I have sleep apnea. Got a C-Pap machine.....not only do I not snore at all anymore, I sleep like a rock and I feel 100% better with more energy than I've ever had.
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> You may want to consider looking into it.
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> Ray
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> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
I had a friend who was diagnosed with sleep apnea, told it was so bad he should ALWAYS use his CPAP. One night he didn't, died in his sleep and the death was attributed to sleep apnea. This is not something to take casually.
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Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150
Palmyra WI
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403, 3.70 Final Drive
Holley Sniper Quadrajet EFI System,
Holley Hyperspark Ignition System
414-484-9431
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes [message #88413 is a reply to message #88369] |
Sun, 13 June 2010 16:00 |
Ray Erspamer
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I just installed a 12vdc plug near the bed.....the unit weighs 3 lbs...very small, draws very little current. We do most of our camping dry and we've never had a problem with the battery running down from the cpap.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Jackie <jmariejo@msn.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 11:00:51 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes
Yes, my husband was diagnosed with severe sleep apnea. This presented another problem when dry camping and using the machine. And he really needs to use the machine at night. We recently went out dry camping and hooked up the machine to a wheelchair battery. We got two nights out of one charge. Worked great.
Anyone else try to use a CPAP machine while dry camping?
Jackie Jones
Port Orchard, WA.
1978 GMC Royale
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes [message #88420 is a reply to message #88307] |
Sun, 13 June 2010 16:43 |
stick miller
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Sat, 12 June 2010 22:01 |
G’day,
This subject comes up constantly with people that are looking for GMC’s. I
did a search on Gene's website for "bed" and nothing came up. I'd suggest we
put together a listing of the various GMC models and their bed sizes. List
the advantages and disadvantages also. When the list is done Gene can post
it on his website to help prospective GMC buyers decide which is best for
them.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Rob - This thread has rapidly changed from the topic suggested to a discussion of sleep apnea. I probably could benefit from a a sleep study. I suspect my seemingly constant state of fatigue is due to a sleep disorder, however I like your idea about sleeping and other accomodations for tall people. For instance, I know in my heart of hearts that a center kitchen Royale would probably be the most readily available coach with the potential for 2 places for me to sleep. At 6'5" I believe I could make do with the sofa on the passenger side since my feet could hang into the entrance well. If I'm not mistaken some of those had a dinette that folds down at the foot (door end) and makes an unrestricted bed. That is valuable information for me.
Less readily available but better for me would be the Edgemont. They seem to be pretty rare, but have 77" twins. That would be fine for me.
Good idea.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes [message #88432 is a reply to message #88420] |
Sun, 13 June 2010 18:08 |
treynolds
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Stick,
Having a bed that's long enough is a big deal to me, even though I'm "only" 6'0".. And that seems to be a constant problem with many of the RV's one looks at. For instance, I've always been intrigued by the T@B trailers, but their "queen" mattress is only 74" long, Many other RV's have the same length "queen" mattress, which SHOULD be closer to 80" in length at least at home. While RV's are NOT the same as a house, having to sleep flat on my back with my head and feet smack against walls is not my idea of a good night's rest, at least for myself as I generally sleep on my side/stomach.
While the Edgemont may have the longest twins, those twins are in the rear of the coach, which make using them as couches less than ideal. I like the idea of being able to have a foot hang over the end of the bed if need be.
A database of bed lengths is still a great idea.
Tony
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes [message #88436 is a reply to message #88432] |
Sun, 13 June 2010 18:14 |
mjbourgon
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Tony
I have a 76 Palm beach that was stretched 2 feet and my twin beds are about
6'6. Very comfortable
Marcel
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From: "treynolds" <treynolds@teague.com>
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Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 17:08
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes
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> Stick,
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> Having a bed that's long enough is a big deal to me, even though I'm
> "only" 6'0".. And that seems to be a constant problem with many of the
> RV's one looks at. For instance, I've always been intrigued by the
> mailto:T@B trailers, but their "queen" mattress is only 74" long, Many
> other RV's have the same length "queen" mattress, which SHOULD be closer
> to 80" in length at least at home. While RV's are NOT the same as a house,
> having to sleep flat on my back with my head and feet smack against walls
> is not my idea of a good night's rest, at least for myself as I generally
> sleep on my side/stomach.
>
> While the Edgemont may have the longest twins, those twins are in the rear
> of the coach, which make using them as couches less than ideal. I like the
> idea of being able to have a foot hang over the end of the bed if need be.
>
> A database of bed lengths is still a great idea.
>
> Tony
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes [message #88495 is a reply to message #88366] |
Mon, 14 June 2010 05:36 |
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Hi Steve:
I snored both continuously and with long pauses of no breathing for many
years. Since marying Mary, who wears no perfume, I haven't snored at all. My
adult children can hardly believe the change.
Jack Kincaid, Castro Valley, CA
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From: "Steve Southworth" <midlf@centurytel.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes
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> Ray Erspamer wrote on Sun, 13 June 2010 08:43
>> Rob
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>> I snored like a bulldozer, Lisa was ready to kill me. I went in for a
>> sleep study and found out I have sleep apnea. Got a C-Pap
>> machine.....not only do I not snore at all anymore, I sleep like a rock
>> and I feel 100% better with more energy than I've ever had.
>>
>> You may want to consider looking into it.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
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> I had a friend who was diagnosed with sleep apnea, told it was so bad he
> should ALWAYS use his CPAP. One night he didn't, died in his sleep and
> the death was attributed to sleep apnea. This is not something to take
> casually.
>
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150
> Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes [message #88535 is a reply to message #88420] |
Mon, 14 June 2010 12:08 |
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The common (steel framed) dinette in most 1975 to 1978 GM and Coachman upfitted coaches is "unrestricted." No head or foot boards... so more room for taller people. The metal spring dinettes are better seats than beds. (IMHO)
The wood framed dinette used in 1973/74 (and some others like the Avions) is a little wider but is restricted by the seatbacks. Like sleeping in a box. I have found the seating less comfortable than the "newer" dinettes. The foam is more comfortable for sleeping... If you are not tall.
| stickmiller wrote on Sun, 13 June 2010 14:43 |
... however I like your idea about sleeping and other accomodations for tall people. For instance, I know in my heart of hearts that a center kitchen Royale would probably be the most readily available coach with the potential for 2 places for me to sleep. At 6'5" I believe I could make do with the sofa on the passenger side since my feet could hang into the entrance well. If I'm not mistaken some of those had a dinette that folds down at the foot (door end) and makes an unrestricted bed. That is valuable information for me. ...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes [message #88558 is a reply to message #88535] |
Mon, 14 June 2010 14:49 |
Carl S.
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My palm beach was converted to a permanent rear bed by the P.O. He was about 5'-6" on a good day. The result was a slightly confined space for someone six feet tall, like I am. I have always had a hard time really stretching out on that bed. It was suggested, by a fellow GMCer, that I remove the panel at the foot of the bed, in our case on the driver's side of the bedroom. This panel does not appear on the floor plan lay-out of any of the GMC factory rear bed models. It's only function is to cover a couple of ducts that have very limited effectiveness, and the cable that goes to the house battery.
This weekend, I started on this project, It involved removing both upper cabinets, so I could get the mattress out, and a bunch of other small things, mostly related to repairing some wear and tear items. I got as far as cutting down the removed panel and re-installing it at a height of only about 3-1/2". It now has the dual function of covering the small duct (I removed the larger one) and the cable, as well as holding the mattress in place. I put the mattress back in and tried it out. I could hardly believe the difference. The four or so inches I picked up made the bed much more comfortable for my height and sleeping position (on my stomach with my feet hanging off the end of the bed)
I still have to make a panel to cover the hole left in the wall, and put everything back together, but I am looking forward to a better night's sleep on our next outing. I strongly advise doing this if you find the bed too confining. I wish I had tackled this job sooner.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bed sizes [message #88566 is a reply to message #88559] |
Mon, 14 June 2010 15:53 |
Carl S.
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> you should have removed the small one also, It only goes to the bathroom
from the booster fan, (neither of which work)
gene
I could have, but there was room for it, so I couldn't think of a good reason to.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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