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Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86080] Tue, 25 May 2010 20:15 Go to next message
hertfordnc is currently offline  hertfordnc   United States
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I would be grateful for comments on these engine photos.

And i put quesions in some of the captions.

http://davesilva.com/engine/index.html


Thanks

Dave


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Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86085 is a reply to message #86080] Tue, 25 May 2010 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carb appears to be much later model
Engine looks like an early one with points distributor
Oil pressure wiring appears to have been altered -- at least new terminal.
The "thing" in the top right should be a TVS thermal valve switch to move from port to manifold with engine temp change.
The choke tube inlet in manifold appears to be blocked, electric choke added -- the linkage to the vacuum pull off is missing
Engine access not really clear from angle of photo -- seems similar to GMC.
No hot water preheat function.
Take lots of time cleaning all that stuff off the manifold or it may end up in the valley.

Good luck.







Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA



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I would be grateful for comments on these engine photos.
And i put quesions in some of the captions.
http://davesilva.com/engine/index.html

hanks
Dave
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Re: Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86086 is a reply to message #86080] Tue, 25 May 2010 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hertfordnc wrote on Tue, 25 May 2010 20:15

I would be grateful for comments on these engine photos.

And i put quesions in some of the captions.

http://davesilva.com/engine/index.html


Thanks

Dave

The first pic shows that the choke has been converted to electric and the original choke stove blocked off. The vacuum deal is supposed to act as a choke pull off.
In the second pic the device in question was called a thermal vacuum switch. It's an emission thing and most have bypassed it. It altered timing based on coolant temperature.


Wally Anderson
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Re: Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86091 is a reply to message #86080] Tue, 25 May 2010 21:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the vacuum pull off on the carb is supposed to hold the secondaries shut under high vacuum.

an interesting question is what carb did Revcon use and how different is it for ours? how does the Revcon run compared to the GMC? gas mileage?


Fred V
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Re: Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86104 is a reply to message #86080] Tue, 25 May 2010 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dave, you are pretty good at reading my mind.
How about posting some pics of the entire coach one of these days? I think the only one I remember is the outside photo.
I can't help with anymore comments. I am not a mechanic like the rest of these guys.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86116 is a reply to message #86080] Wed, 26 May 2010 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dave,

Looking at the full pic of the motor I see first you probably upset a family of squirrels when you fired up the motor-- not unusual.  You might want to check to make sure they have not chewed on your vacuum or fuel hoses.

Next I see it is still running the older point dist., I would strongly suggest installing an HEI unit.  A much stronger spark, noticable.

Here is a big one, something I see in probably 1/2 the coaches I pull the cover on, you vacuum to your dist. is not right.  Under load your motor would need another 10 deg. of timing the way it is connected.  Loose that "vacuum tree" and run ported vacuum from the carb directly to the vacuum on the dist.  Off idle, this will give the motor the @10 deg. of vacuum it wants.  This is the difference in a peppy, fuel efficieny motor and a fuel sucking pig.

If you would like to know more, give me a call,

Jim Bounds
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Subject: [GMCnet] Pictures of my Revcon engine



I would be grateful for comments on these engine photos.

And i put quesions in some of the captions.

http://davesilva.com/engine/index.html


Thanks

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Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86120 is a reply to message #86116] Wed, 26 May 2010 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim Bounds wrote on Wed, 26 May 2010 06:20

Here is a big one, something I see in probably 1/2 the coaches I pull the cover on, you vacuum to your dist. is not right.  Under load your motor would need another 10 deg. of timing the way it is connected.  Loose that "vacuum tree" and run ported vacuum from the carb directly to the vacuum on the dist.  Off idle, this will give the motor the @10 deg. of vacuum it wants.  This is the difference in a peppy, fuel efficieny motor and a fuel sucking pig



THanks Jim,

So you're saying that the vac. augments the centrifigal advance?

I got 9.9 MPG on one 200 mile drive. That has been the only assesment of mileage.

I googled the carb number and found a single refernce to it in a forum, it apprently came off a chevy.

No telling if revcon used it or some PO swapped it out.

Thanks to everyone for the input so far.



Dave & Ellen Silva Hertford, NC 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021 It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86122 is a reply to message #86085] Wed, 26 May 2010 08:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good read Dennis,
In addition, the Thermac has been disconnected and the vac connection
blocked.

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:52 PM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Carb appears to be much later model
> Engine looks like an early one with points distributor
> Oil pressure wiring appears to have been altered -- at least new terminal.
> The "thing" in the top right should be a TVS thermal valve switch to move from port to manifold with engine temp change.
> The choke tube inlet in manifold appears to be blocked, electric choke added -- the linkage to the vacuum pull off is missing
> Engine access not really clear from angle of photo -- seems similar to GMC.
> No hot water preheat function.
> Take lots of time cleaning all that stuff off the manifold or it may end up in the valley.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dennis Sexton
> 73 GMC
> Germantown, TN
> USA
>
>
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> From: dave silva <gmc@davesilva.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 8:15 pm
> Subject: [GMCnet] Pictures of my Revcon engine
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> I would be grateful for comments on these engine photos.
> And i put quesions in some of the captions.
> http://davesilva.com/engine/index.html
>
> hanks
> Dave
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> ou gotta' take the whole thing -zip 27944- rear wheels, glass, etc.
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Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86127 is a reply to message #86122] Wed, 26 May 2010 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dave,
I forgot that Jim B. does Revcons. He might be a good source for lots of stuff. I recall also seeing an ad in the FMCA mag for someone that messes with Revcons.
Good luck, hollar when you know just what is what.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86132 is a reply to message #86127] Wed, 26 May 2010 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WD0AFQ wrote on Wed, 26 May 2010 09:07


Good luck, hollar when you know just what is what.
Dan


No, I'm hollaring now becuse i have no idea what is what. Initially i took the picutes so I could see how everything goes back together but then i saw all these mystery parts, i figured ya'll could provide some insight.

And I know some of you are secretly curious about the Revcon.

There will be another set of pictures when the top of the engine is off.



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Re: Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86249 is a reply to message #86080] Wed, 26 May 2010 23:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greetings,

Just thought I'd chime in here. Fellow Revcon owner.

Carbs used on Revcons
73-74 7043254
75, 76, 77 7045254/7045554

One question I would have is, would going with a Petronics (sp) rather than an HEI going to yield the same effects? Performance, milage, etc.

Dennis, off topic question for you. I may be going through your area soon. I ate at Interstate BBQ, can you suggest some other really good places for some Q? If this happens, we could always meet up for some chow.

I have a 73, like Dave's. Driving back from SOCAL to Philly, I got varied milage. My first tank was the worst, drove fast and lots of big hills. I got 6 mpg on that tank. Later I got 11.9 mpg but I had to cruise slow, 55 to 60 mph. Kinda painful but the milage is nice.

I'll try to post some photos for you to take a gander at. I think Dave is right, you guys just might be closet Revcon owners. ;^D (note the wink)

Scott
73 Revcon 250
The Flying Brick

Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86250 is a reply to message #86249] Wed, 26 May 2010 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Scott,

I LOVE the name of your Revcon!

Carbs used on GMC's

73 & 74, 455's 7043254
75 & 76, 455's Federal 7045254 Calif. 7045554

Carbs used on Revcons
73-74 7043254
75, 76, 77 7045254/7045554

THE SAME!

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Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Re: Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86253 is a reply to message #86080] Wed, 26 May 2010 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Rob,

You'll understand when you see the photos.

This like is the previous owners, I don't know how much longer it will be active. I'd love to hear your thoughts. But only if you promise to kiss my, ummm, Revcon. Wink

Enjoy.

http://s755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/mvt2748/Revcon/?albumview=slideshow

Scott

Re: Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86257 is a reply to message #86080] Thu, 27 May 2010 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very clean looking coach....butt ugly!

"if you want to be happy for the rest of your life, get yourself an ugly ...rv?" Nah it doesn't work for me.

Michael Laughing
I'll stick with my GMC....after all these years, still the best looking coach on the road.
Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86267 is a reply to message #86253] Thu, 27 May 2010 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice looking, well kept coach! The box may not be pretty, but it's
certainly "practical". Like something I might design, me having all the
artistic talents of a framing square.

Ken H.


On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Scott Brown <sbrown928@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks Rob,
>
> You'll understand when you see the photos.
>
> This like is the previous owners, I don't know how much longer it will be
> active. I'd love to hear your thoughts. But only if you promise to kiss
> my, ummm, Revcon. ;)
>
> Enjoy.
>
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> http://s755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/mvt2748/Revcon/?albumview=slideshow
>
> Scott
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Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86268 is a reply to message #86249] Thu, 27 May 2010 06:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Scott,
Nice looking coach.
Going to a Pertronix would be an easier change -- the air filter would fit without modification required by the HEI. Neither Pertronix nor HEI will likely improve fuel economy.

BBQ recommendation -- Corky's on Poplar just off I-240. Not great parking so if you are in the Revcon plan to walk a short distance. http://www.corkysmemphis.com/




Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA



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Greetings,
Just thought I'd chime in here. Fellow Revcon owner.
Carbs used on Revcons
3-74 7043254
5, 76, 77 7045254/7045554
One question I would have is, would going with a Petronics (sp) rather than an
EI going to yield the same effects? Performance, milage, etc.
Dennis, off topic question for you. I may be going through your area soon. I
te at Interstate BBQ, can you suggest some other really good places for some Q?
f this happens, we could always meet up for some chow.
I have a 73, like Dave's. Driving back from SOCAL to Philly, I got varied
ilage. My first tank was the worst, drove fast and lots of big hills. I got 6
pg on that tank. Later I got 11.9 mpg but I had to cruise slow, 55 to 60 mph.
inda painful but the milage is nice.
I'll try to post some photos for you to take a gander at. I think Dave is
ight, you guys just might be closet Revcon owners. ;^D (note the wink)
Scott
3 Revcon 250
he Flying Brick

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Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86275 is a reply to message #86253] Thu, 27 May 2010 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Scott,

Thanks for posting the photos. If it is unrestored it is in amazing
condition, if it is restored the workmanship is very good.

As far as the exterior looks goes all that matters is that you like it!

Why should you care what a bunch of old farts that have GMC's think, eh! ;-)

Regards,
Rob "self deprecating" Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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This like is the previous owners, I don't know how much longer it will be
active. I'd love to hear your thoughts. But only if you promise to kiss
my, ummm, Revcon. ;)

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Re: Pictures of my Revcon engine [message #86279 is a reply to message #86080] Thu, 27 May 2010 08:41 Go to previous message
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Morning Folks,

Sorry for stealing your thread Dave. Thanks for the tip Dennis, I'll give them a shot.

I am the third owner of this coach, it's been in CA it's while life (supposedly). The last owner did some restoration to it, new paint, carpets, reupholstery, the dash/gauges are new as well. The radiator was pulled and a 4 core aluminum one was put in, in it's place. Lots more little things but it was well cared for, which is half the battle.

It still needs a fair amount of work to get it to 110% but nothing that's insurmountable. It runs good, and if I wanted, I wouldn't need to do a thing to use it.

To each his own, I say. I'll admit, I like the GMC, it's just not as practical for me. I'm not a big fan of fiberglass either, too much maintenance. I also prefer the floor plan to the GMCs. For me, I like it's "uniqueness" and retro look. But, most importantly, it's a lot cheaper overall. A lot.

Scott
The Flying Brick
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