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| Re: Governor weights, springs and things [message #86054 is a reply to message #86043] |
Tue, 25 May 2010 17:36   |
fred v
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Bill Bramlet glues the can back together with RTV and lets the bail ring hold it in place.
springs are rated by X weight per .010" compression. this could be measured with a dial caliper and a weight scale. it would be interesting to see what the difference is in the springs.
i still suspect that all this combination of parts just lets the tranny shift at different RPM's. did the kit come with a chart?
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] Governor weights, springs and things [message #86069 is a reply to message #86054] |
Tue, 25 May 2010 18:46 |
Ken Henderson
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Wally,
I've never tried it, but I've always understood that the governor can be
changed, even with headers, if the cover has been cut off and retained by
the bail, as mentioned in Fred's note below. How about with your new cover
retainer?
This reminds me: I need to check whether the governor can be R&R'd with the
Cad500 installed.
Ken H.
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM, fred veenschoten <fredntoni@cox.net> wrote:
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| Re: [GMCnet] Governor weights, springs and things [message #86074 is a reply to message #86069] |
Tue, 25 May 2010 19:07 |
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WD0AFQ
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 25 May 2010 18:46 |
Wally,
I've never tried it, but I've always understood that the governor can be
changed, even with headers, if the cover has been cut off and retained by
the bail.
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hmmm, very interesting. Hey Wally, you want to swap back? 
Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Governor weights, springs and things [message #86117 is a reply to message #86078] |
Wed, 26 May 2010 06:40 |
Surbo
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| wally wrote on Tue, 25 May 2010 19:45 |
| Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 25 May 2010 18:46 |
Wally,
I've never tried it, but I've always understood that the governor can be
changed, even with headers, if the cover has been cut off and retained by
the bail, as mentioned in Fred's note below. How about with your new cover
retainer?
Ken H.
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Well you would have to get a screwdriver in there to take the four screws out and then the top of the can would come off. I pondered making the O Ring seal on the inside of the top and then have the bail hold it together. There is not much weight/can clearance to work with and an outside seal was easier.
If the retainer was attached to the top making the O Ring captive then screws wouldn't be needed. Then the bail would be the only thing holding it together. Didn't think about that until now. Duh, that would have made it easier to make...
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Wally;
How much 'out-of-balance' do you think the gov shaft is after the brazing?
Thanks for the pic's.
Bob Drewes in SESD
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| Re: [GMCnet] Governor weights, springs and things [message #86248 is a reply to message #86117] |
Wed, 26 May 2010 23:11 |
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wally
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| Surbo wrote on Wed, 26 May 2010 06:40 |
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Wally;
How much 'out-of-balance' do you think the gov shaft is after the brazing?
Thanks for the pic's.
Bob Drewes in SESD
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Well it looked pretty straight. The weights are unequal and they would be unbalanced. Swapped it in my coach and went for a drive, it shifts like the one I took out except in holds first a shade longer. Fished the springs out of my original and measured them, weights look the same. The yellow spring measures significantly different! so maybe spring color doesn't mean much?
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=34158&title=gov-73s&cat=5470
I read that Bill Bramlett advocates drilling 1/4 holes in the secondary weights.they are .060 thick and one hole would remove .38 grams. I plan to swap in the 7 gram weight and see what happens.
Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
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