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[GMCnet] Weekend Trip [message #84910] Mon, 17 May 2010 07:59 Go to next message
George Zhookoff is currently offline  George Zhookoff   United States
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My #2 son-in-law and I ran up and back from Atlanta to Berry College in
Rome, GA. It was British Car Day at the college. The round trip was
202 miles. The coach ran great. I've completed a total frontend
rebuild. Coach is nice and tight going down the highway. I had
repaired a loose ground for the A/C clutch last weekend so we gave the
A/C a workout. About 90 miles into the outbound leg the A/C started to
squeal. No problem figured I retighten before return leg.



Walked the car show. There were a couple of hundred cars. In a weaker
moment I gave my SIL one of my Healey's. He's working to restore the
3000.



Got back to the coach and worked on tightening the A/C belt. I have one
of those no-longer available belt tensioners. We cranked up the Onan
and fired up both A/C units. Here's an issue. The circuit breaker on
the Onan pops after a while. Any ideas?



Ride back was uneventful. A/C cranked cool air. The fan clutch would
kick in every now and then but the water temp stayed at 185. Is the
heat from the A/C causing the fan clutch to engage?



Changed the oil yesterday. Took a Blackstone sample and dropped a
Mondello magnet into the filter and added ZDDP. We're headed to
Charlotte for the NASCAR All Star Race this weekend. I'm looking
forward to the trip where the tools stay in the box. I know all the
work is paying off.



Thanks for all the help along the way!



George Zhookoff

78 EL II

Atlanta

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Re: [GMCnet] Weekend Trip [message #84916 is a reply to message #84910] Mon, 17 May 2010 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Good report George.
How does the front end feel?

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:59 AM, George Zhookoff <gzhookoff@e2m.com> wrote:
>
>
> My #2 son-in-law and I ran up and back from Atlanta to Berry College in
> Rome, GA.  It was British Car Day at the college.  The round trip was
> 202 miles.  The coach ran great.  I've completed a total frontend
> rebuild.  Coach is nice and tight going down the highway.  I had
> repaired a loose ground for the A/C clutch last weekend so we gave the
> A/C a workout.  About 90 miles into the outbound leg the A/C started to
> squeal.  No problem figured I retighten before return leg.
>
>
>
> Walked the car show.  There were a couple of hundred cars.  In a weaker
> moment I gave my SIL one of my Healey's.  He's working to restore the
> 3000.
>
>
>
> Got back to the coach and worked on tightening the A/C belt.  I have one
> of those no-longer available belt tensioners.  We cranked up the Onan
> and fired up both A/C units.  Here's an issue.  The circuit breaker on
> the Onan pops after a while.  Any ideas?
>
>
>
> Ride back was uneventful.  A/C cranked cool air.  The fan clutch would
> kick in every now and then but the water temp stayed at 185.  Is the
> heat from the A/C causing the fan clutch to engage?
>
>
>
> Changed the oil yesterday.  Took a Blackstone sample and dropped a
> Mondello magnet into the filter and added ZDDP.   We're headed to
> Charlotte for the NASCAR All Star Race this weekend.  I'm looking
> forward to the trip where the tools stay in the box.  I know all the
> work is paying off.
>
>
>
> Thanks for all the help along the way!
>
>
>
> George Zhookoff
>
> 78 EL II
>
> Atlanta
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Weekend Trip [message #84918 is a reply to message #84916] Mon, 17 May 2010 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
George Zhookoff is currently offline  George Zhookoff   United States
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Steve,
I gotta tell ya! The front end is very tight. A real pleasure to drive. I would tell everyone, new :control arms both upper & lower, idler arm, relay link, tie rod ends, ball joints, hub bearings. Seems like a lot, and it is, but it's worth it. My steering wheel would go +/- 30 degrees when driving down the road. It was as if I were driving my boat thru white caps. Now it's rock solid. I showed my son-in-law at 75 I can take my hands off the steering wheel. Don't make that a habit!

Thanks for your help Steve.

George

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Good report George.
How does the front end feel?

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:59 AM, George Zhookoff <gzhookoff@e2m.com> wrote:
>
>
> My #2 son-in-law and I ran up and back from Atlanta to Berry College in
> Rome, GA.  It was British Car Day at the college.  The round trip was
> 202 miles.  The coach ran great.  I've completed a total frontend
> rebuild.  Coach is nice and tight going down the highway.  I had
> repaired a loose ground for the A/C clutch last weekend so we gave the
> A/C a workout.  About 90 miles into the outbound leg the A/C started to
> squeal.  No problem figured I retighten before return leg.
>
>
>
> Walked the car show.  There were a couple of hundred cars.  In a weaker
> moment I gave my SIL one of my Healey's.  He's working to restore the
> 3000.
>
>
>
> Got back to the coach and worked on tightening the A/C belt.  I have one
> of those no-longer available belt tensioners.  We cranked up the Onan
> and fired up both A/C units.  Here's an issue.  The circuit breaker on
> the Onan pops after a while.  Any ideas?
>
>
>
> Ride back was uneventful.  A/C cranked cool air.  The fan clutch would
> kick in every now and then but the water temp stayed at 185.  Is the
> heat from the A/C causing the fan clutch to engage?
>
>
>
> Changed the oil yesterday.  Took a Blackstone sample and dropped a
> Mondello magnet into the filter and added ZDDP.   We're headed to
> Charlotte for the NASCAR All Star Race this weekend.  I'm looking
> forward to the trip where the tools stay in the box.  I know all the
> work is paying off.

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Re: [GMCnet] Weekend Trip [message #84923 is a reply to message #84918] Mon, 17 May 2010 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fred Estabrook is currently offline  Fred Estabrook   United States
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George,
Did you do the work yourself or have someone do it. About how much did it
cost.
Fred Estabrook
Florence AZ

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:31 AM, George Zhookoff <gzhookoff@e2m.com> wrote:

> Steve,
> I gotta tell ya! The front end is very tight. A real pleasure to drive.
> I would tell everyone, new :control arms both upper & lower, idler arm,
> relay link, tie rod ends, ball joints, hub bearings. Seems like a lot, and
> it is, but it's worth it. My steering wheel would go +/- 30 degrees when
> driving down the road. It was as if I were driving my boat thru white caps.
> Now it's rock solid. I showed my son-in-law at 75 I can take my hands off
> the steering wheel. Don't make that a habit!
>
> Thanks for your help Steve.
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:
> gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Ferguson
>
>
> Good report George.
> How does the front end feel?
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:59 AM, George Zhookoff <gzhookoff@e2m.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > My #2 son-in-law and I ran up and back from Atlanta to Berry College in
> > Rome, GA. It was British Car Day at the college. The round trip was
> > 202 miles. The coach ran great. I've completed a total frontend
> > rebuild. Coach is nice and tight going down the highway. I had
> > repaired a loose ground for the A/C clutch last weekend so we gave the
> > A/C a workout. About 90 miles into the outbound leg the A/C started to
> > squeal. No problem figured I retighten before return leg.
> >
> >
> >
> > Walked the car show. There were a couple of hundred cars. In a weaker
> > moment I gave my SIL one of my Healey's. He's working to restore the
> > 3000.
> >
> >
> >
> > Got back to the coach and worked on tightening the A/C belt. I have one
> > of those no-longer available belt tensioners. We cranked up the Onan
> > and fired up both A/C units. Here's an issue. The circuit breaker on
> > the Onan pops after a while. Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> > Ride back was uneventful. A/C cranked cool air. The fan clutch would
> > kick in every now and then but the water temp stayed at 185. Is the
> > heat from the A/C causing the fan clutch to engage?
> >
> >
> >
> > Changed the oil yesterday. Took a Blackstone sample and dropped a
> > Mondello magnet into the filter and added ZDDP. We're headed to
> > Charlotte for the NASCAR All Star Race this weekend. I'm looking
> > forward to the trip where the tools stay in the box. I know all the
> > work is paying off.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Weekend Trip [message #84927 is a reply to message #84923] Mon, 17 May 2010 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
George Zhookoff is currently offline  George Zhookoff   United States
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Fred,
Sent out hubs & knuckles, if I had to do again I'd send them to Dave
Lenzi and get a grease fitting installed. Bought all remanufactured
front end parts from Jim K. All Steve F & Dave L parts.

I did all the work myself till it came time for the idler arm and relay
link. It was cold and wet and I had enough laying out in my driveway on
cardboard. I had Zeb Frady Buford, GA install the idler arm, relay link
and tie rod ends. Had Keisler Tire in Gainesville, GA do the alignment,
$ 85.

I don't keep track of costs, might stop if I knew how much it cost. But
a little over $2,500 I would guess.
George

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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Fred Estabrook


George,
Did you do the work yourself or have someone do it. About how much did
it
cost.
Fred Estabrook
Florence AZ

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Re: [GMCnet] Weekend Trip [message #84929 is a reply to message #84927] Mon, 17 May 2010 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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George, ain't it great to be able to take your hands off the wheel at 75? I love it too. When I bought mine I could not hold it in the road if we were doing over 55 mph.
I forgot to mention on earlier posts, I too changed the oil and stuck a Mondello magnet in the new filter. I was kinda hesitant but it is in there. Also collected a 2nd sample for testing.
When these things drive right, they are really great.
Glad you had a good trip.
Fred, I have seen a GMC in Florence a couple of times.
Dan


3 In Stainless Exhaust Headers One Ton All Discs/Reaction Arm 355 FD/Quad Bag/Alum Radiator Manny Tran/New eng. Holley EFI/10 Tire Air Monitoring System Solarized Coach/Upgraded Windows Satelite TV/On Demand Hot Water/3Way Refer
Re: [GMCnet] Weekend Trip [message #84965 is a reply to message #84927] Mon, 17 May 2010 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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George,

Good report on the trip and results of front end work.

Our coach wasn't that bad but you still had to constantly play with the
wheel. After replacing the relay link it handled like it should. I also go
Lenzi's adjustable linkage.

Berry should have been beautiful this time of year. Our daughter graduated
from Shorter two years ago. Couldn't afford Berry. Well, couldn't afford
Shorter without the academic scholarship.

Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
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George Zhookoff wrote:

> Fred,
> Sent out hubs & knuckles, if I had to do again I'd send them to Dave
> Lenzi and get a grease fitting installed. Bought all remanufactured
> front end parts from Jim K. All Steve F & Dave L parts.
>
> I did all the work myself till it came time for the idler arm and relay
> link. It was cold and wet and I had enough laying out in my driveway on
> cardboard. I had Zeb Frady Buford, GA install the idler arm, relay link
> and tie rod ends. Had Keisler Tire in Gainesville, GA do the alignment,
> $ 85.
>
> I don't keep track of costs, might stop if I knew how much it cost. But
> a little over $2,500 I would guess.
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Fred Estabrook
>
>
> George,
> Did you do the work yourself or have someone do it. About how much did
> it
> cost.
> Fred Estabrook
> Florence AZ
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Weekend Trip [message #84979 is a reply to message #84918] Mon, 17 May 2010 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Excellent George.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:31 AM, George Zhookoff <gzhookoff@e2m.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> I gotta tell ya!  The front end is very tight.  A real pleasure to drive.  I would tell everyone, new :control arms both upper & lower, idler arm, relay link, tie rod ends, ball joints, hub bearings.  Seems like a lot, and it is, but it's worth it.  My steering wheel would go +/- 30 degrees when driving down the road.  It was as if I were driving my boat thru white caps.  Now it's rock solid.  I showed my son-in-law at 75 I can take my hands off the steering wheel.  Don't make that a habit!
>
> Thanks for your help Steve.
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Ferguson
>
>
> Good report George.
>  How does the front end feel?
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:59 AM, George Zhookoff <gzhookoff@e2m.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> My #2 son-in-law and I ran up and back from Atlanta to Berry College in
>> Rome, GA.  It was British Car Day at the college.  The round trip was
>> 202 miles.  The coach ran great.  I've completed a total frontend
>> rebuild.  Coach is nice and tight going down the highway.  I had
>> repaired a loose ground for the A/C clutch last weekend so we gave the
>> A/C a workout.  About 90 miles into the outbound leg the A/C started to
>> squeal.  No problem figured I retighten before return leg.
>>
>>
>>
>> Walked the car show.  There were a couple of hundred cars.  In a weaker
>> moment I gave my SIL one of my Healey's.  He's working to restore the
>> 3000.
>>
>>
>>
>> Got back to the coach and worked on tightening the A/C belt.  I have one
>> of those no-longer available belt tensioners.  We cranked up the Onan
>> and fired up both A/C units.  Here's an issue.  The circuit breaker on
>> the Onan pops after a while.  Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ride back was uneventful.  A/C cranked cool air.  The fan clutch would
>> kick in every now and then but the water temp stayed at 185.  Is the
>> heat from the A/C causing the fan clutch to engage?
>>
>>
>>
>> Changed the oil yesterday.  Took a Blackstone sample and dropped a
>> Mondello magnet into the filter and added ZDDP.   We're headed to
>> Charlotte for the NASCAR All Star Race this weekend.  I'm looking
>> forward to the trip where the tools stay in the box.  I know all the
>> work is paying off.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Weekend Trip [message #85054 is a reply to message #84910] Tue, 18 May 2010 01:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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George Zhookoff wrote on Mon, 17 May 2010 07:59



We cranked up the Onan
and fired up both A/C units. Here's an issue. The circuit breaker on
the Onan pops after a while. Any ideas?


George Zhookoff




For a breaker that trips when the load is constant the first thing I would check is the connections to the breaker to make sure they are clean and tight. I would also check with a clamp on ammeter to make sure the current draw did not exceed the rating of the breaker. If not and connections are good the breaker itself may be toast, see:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=22217&title=dsc00436&cat=3798

I think this is an ONAN breaker.




Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Re: [GMCnet] Weekend Trip [message #85059 is a reply to message #84910] Tue, 18 May 2010 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mine (Kohler mind you) popped because the engine couldn't maintain horsepower necessary to keep the generator on speed with a load. Carb cleanup and rebuild and head tightening helped that.

Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Weekend Trip [message #85072 is a reply to message #85059] Tue, 18 May 2010 08:29 Go to previous message
George Zhookoff is currently offline  George Zhookoff   United States
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Randy,
I've tuned up the Onan. Heads, carb, etc. I think this is the first
time in a long time the engine runs great. Now the electrical side is
getting a workout.

Searching for a new toggle CB.
George
78 EL II
Atlanta

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Mine (Kohler mind you) popped because the engine couldn't maintain
horsepower necessary to keep the generator on speed with a load. Carb
cleanup and rebuild and head tightening helped that.
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1973 26' Painted Desert
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