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Grinning from Ear to Ear [message #84601] Fri, 14 May 2010 18:10 Go to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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Well, out for a test drive after reinstalling my carburetor. Throttle tip-in is fantastic. So much that I can do a burnout without using the brake pedal, and with the wheels pointed straight ahead. the best thirty bucks I've spent on the entire coach.

There is a nice patch in front of my neighbors house. Very Happy

I just have to get the choke can set right (yeah, like I need a choke in this climate) and tweak the secondary metering. Getting a bit too much gas now when I floor it. Can see it through the butterfly valves. Runs better with the secondaries locked out, but now I can plant my foot while moving and get acceleration instead of bogging.

Woo Hoo!!!!


-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ

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Re: Grinning from Ear to Ear [message #84607 is a reply to message #84601] Fri, 14 May 2010 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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What did you do to the carb??

Keith Vasilakes
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Re: Grinning from Ear to Ear [message #84613 is a reply to message #84607] Fri, 14 May 2010 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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Just bought a rebuild kit and three cans of carb cleaner. rebuilt it, tweaked the primary needle valves a bit. My carb was in good enough shape that my rebuild came out OK. if it were any worse, I'd have sent it to get it rebuilt by Dick or Jim. Still have that manifold crack, but it runs so good, I'm not going to do anything else to the engine just now save for new Valve cover gaskets and an AC compressor.

I used Walker Kit # 151034 from Checker-Chucks-Kragen-Orielly's.


-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ

77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
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Re: Grinning from Ear to Ear [message #84648 is a reply to message #84613] Sat, 15 May 2010 04:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chris,
After reading your writeup on carb rebuilding I googled walker products and ended up with this off their website http://www.walkerproducts.com/_pdf/Carburetor_Tune-Up_Kit_OEM_Interchange.pdf and on page 117 the interchange for the 745254 carb was indeed the 151034. Looking at the Oreillyauto.com and looking at listings for '76 Toro listing had several to choose but not this one but if you enter in the 151034 up pops the kit for 16.99 and in stock at my local store about a mile away.... tomorrow I'm there to get mine. I figure for 16.99 it's worth a try and can always send it to Dick or Jim if I make things worse, but trying to solve a rich hot idle problem.

I thought that this interchange for carbs would be helpful for all not only for their GMCs but what other toys we might be playing with.

Good find Chris


John Blankenship '76 Palm Beach Tulare, CA
Re: [GMCnet] Grinning from Ear to Ear [message #84666 is a reply to message #84648] Sat, 15 May 2010 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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John,

IIRC from emails submitted there are certain parts that make the QJ for the
GMC different from the QJ for the Toronado.

I had my QJ rebuilt by Dick Patterson so I don't have a clue as to what they
are.

When you get the kit could you lay it out and photograph it and post it on
the photo site so that someone that knows the QJ could look at them to see
if contains those parts?

If it does I'll bet this company gets a lot of orders! ;-)

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Chris,
After reading your writeup on carb rebuilding I googled walker products and
ended up with this off their website
http://www.walkerproducts.com/_pdf/Carburetor_Tune-Up_Kit_OEM_Interchange.pd
f and on page 117 the interchange for the 745254 carb was indeed the
151034. Looking at the Oreillyauto.com and looking at listings for '76 Toro
listing had several to choose but not this one but if you enter in the
151034 up pops the kit for 16.99 and in stock at my local store about a mile
away.... tomorrow I'm there to get mine. I figure for 16.99 it's worth a
try and can always send it to Dick or Jim if I make things worse, but trying
to solve a rich hot idle problem.

I thought that this interchange for carbs would be helpful for all not only
for their GMCs but what other toys we might be playing with.

Good find Chris
--
John Blankenship
'76 Palm Beach
Tulare, CA
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Re: [GMCnet] Grinning from Ear to Ear [message #84667 is a reply to message #84666] Sat, 15 May 2010 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had been told that some of the differences is inside the passages of the carbs so it would not be apparent by just looking at the carbs or the gaskets or replacable parts.

Emery Stora

On May 15, 2010, at 7:23 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:

> John,
>
> IIRC from emails submitted there are certain parts that make the QJ for the
> GMC different from the QJ for the Toronado.
>
> I had my QJ rebuilt by Dick Patterson so I don't have a clue as to what they
> are.
>
> When you get the kit could you lay it out and photograph it and post it on
> the photo site so that someone that knows the QJ could look at them to see
> if contains those parts?
>
> If it does I'll bet this company gets a lot of orders! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of John Blankenship
> Sent: Saturday, 15 May 2010 7:20 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Grinning from Ear to Ear
>
> Chris,
> After reading your writeup on carb rebuilding I googled walker products and
> ended up with this off their website
> http://www.walkerproducts.com/_pdf/Carburetor_Tune-Up_Kit_OEM_Interchange.pd
> f and on page 117 the interchange for the 745254 carb was indeed the
> 151034. Looking at the Oreillyauto.com and looking at listings for '76 Toro
> listing had several to choose but not this one but if you enter in the
> 151034 up pops the kit for 16.99 and in stock at my local store about a mile
> away.... tomorrow I'm there to get mine. I figure for 16.99 it's worth a
> try and can always send it to Dick or Jim if I make things worse, but trying
> to solve a rich hot idle problem.
>
> I thought that this interchange for carbs would be helpful for all not only
> for their GMCs but what other toys we might be playing with.
>
> Good find Chris
> --
> John Blankenship
> '76 Palm Beach
> Tulare, CA
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Re: [GMCnet] Grinning from Ear to Ear [message #84677 is a reply to message #84667] Sat, 15 May 2010 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Emery,

No such luck - figgers! :-)

Oh well it was an idea.

Thanks,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Grinning from Ear to Ear

I had been told that some of the differences is inside the passages of the
carbs so it would not be apparent by just looking at the carbs or the
gaskets or replacable parts.

Emery Stora


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Re: Grinning from Ear to Ear [message #84697 is a reply to message #84648] Sat, 15 May 2010 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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Yup. $16.99 plus three cans of carb cleaner and a bunch of new various sized vacuum hose and one tee (From my drip irrigation parts box) and you have a $30 rebuild. Just back from another test run. Tweaked the choke a bit. Still need more tweaking, as the lockout on the secondaries is not releasing just yet, but manually releasing it, my Bog seems to have dissipated. I have "CJ" secondary metering rods and "H" hanger FWIW.

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Re: Grinning from Ear to Ear [message #84726 is a reply to message #84697] Sat, 15 May 2010 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chr$ wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 12:01

Yup. $16.99 plus three cans of carb cleaner and a bunch of new various sized vacuum hose and one tee (From my drip irrigation parts box) and you have a $30 rebuild. Just back from another test run. Tweaked the choke a bit. Still need more tweaking, as the lockout on the secondaries is not releasing just yet, but manually releasing it, my Bog seems to have dissipated. I have "CJ" secondary metering rods and "H" hanger FWIW.


Make sure you use the old power valve spring. The springs in rebuild kits are designed to go into power enrichment at about 11-13 inches of mercury vacuum. That spring will result in a lot of cruising in power enrichment mode, with mixtures in the 12:1 or 13:1 range. Fuel mileage will be poor.

The proper spring for our application engages power enrichment at a vacuum of 7-8 inches of mercury. The springs are available from the usual suspects, I think, if you don't trust the old one.

Rick "just a reminder of what we learned several years ago" Denney


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Re: Grinning from Ear to Ear [message #84734 is a reply to message #84601] Sat, 15 May 2010 18:03 Go to previous message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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This kit didn't provide any. I had to use the old ones and just change the seal on the valve. Actually, this kit was mostly gaskets.

-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ

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