| Mondello new design headers? [message #84244] |
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gmchunter
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A while back someone mentioned that Joe Mondello was bringing a new set of headers designed explicitly for the GMC 455 to the recent Rally.
No other mention was made. I was wondering if Mondello actually brought or was showing a new style header for the GMC 455 and whether there were pictures or not?
MICHAEL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mondello new design headers? [message #84247 is a reply to message #84244] |
Wed, 12 May 2010 16:33  |
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No photos taken that I'm aware of.
However, he did work with Doug on a "superior" design. Mondello said to be
sure and ask for Doug's Headers.
http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ex/dougs/default.aspx
IIRC, because of some legal stuff Doug has no relationship with Thorley.
Otherwise, contact Joe directly.
2470 Pomona Road
Crossville, Tennessee 38571
931.459.2760 - General Inquiries
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
MICHAEL FOSTER wrote:
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> A while back someone mentioned that Joe Mondello was bringing a new set of
> headers designed explicitly for the GMC 455 to the recent Rally.
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> No other mention was made. I was wondering if Mondello actually brought or
> was showing a new style header for the GMC 455 and whether there were pictures
> or not?
>
> MICHAEL
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| Re: Mondello new design headers? [message #84249 is a reply to message #84244] |
Wed, 12 May 2010 16:36 |
C Boyd
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| gmchunter wrote on Wed, 12 May 2010 16:51 |
A while back someone mentioned that Joe Mondello was bringing a new set of headers designed explicitly for the GMC 455 to the recent Rally.
No other mention was made. I was wondering if Mondello actually brought or was showing a new style header for the GMC 455 and whether there were pictures or not?
MICHAEL
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Yes He brought a fine looking set set to GMCES and sold them to an attending member. They are coated inside and out. His style is suppose to have larger flanges to better fit the 455s. His claim is they run cooler and don`t leak, cold or hot. I believe they are available from Him.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mondello new design headers? [message #84364 is a reply to message #84247] |
Thu, 13 May 2010 09:24 |
Steven Ferguson
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Byron,
Doug and Betty sold their business a few years ago. Doug is still
involved in headers. Back in the 60's he manufactured headers under
the name of "Doug's Headers". I think the Thorley name went with the
business.
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Byron Songer
<bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:
> No photos taken that I'm aware of.
>
> However, he did work with Doug on a "superior" design. Mondello said to be
> sure and ask for Doug's Headers.
>
> http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ex/dougs/default.aspx
>
> IIRC, because of some legal stuff Doug has no relationship with Thorley.
>
> Otherwise, contact Joe directly.
>
> 2470 Pomona Road
> Crossville, Tennessee 38571
> 931.459.2760 - General Inquiries
>
> Byron Songer
> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
> Louisville, KY
> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
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> MICHAEL FOSTER wrote:
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>> A while back someone mentioned that Joe Mondello was bringing a new set of
>> headers designed explicitly for the GMC 455 to the recent Rally.
>>
>> No other mention was made. I was wondering if Mondello actually brought or
>> was showing a new style header for the GMC 455 and whether there were pictures
>> or not?
>>
>> MICHAEL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mondello new design headers? [message #84367 is a reply to message #84364] |
Thu, 13 May 2010 09:39 |
Jim White[1]
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Steve-
Joe did bring a set of Doug's/Mondello headers and he explained why he
and Doug designed and manufactured them exclusively for the GMC motor home.
He showed that a number of header gasket and leaking problems were
causes by a poorly fitting flange. The flange was designed for the 403,
not the same as the 455. Leigh Harrison acknowledged that he had been
plagued by such problems and snatched up the sample pair that Joe brought.
I may have pictures, but not sure what they would show.
Jim "Doc" White
Wintergreen, VA
75 GMC stretch
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On 5/13/2010 10:24 AM, Steven Ferguson wrote:
> Byron,
> Doug and Betty sold their business a few years ago. Doug is still
> involved in headers. Back in the 60's he manufactured headers under
> the name of "Doug's Headers". I think the Thorley name went with the
> business.
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Byron Songer
> <bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:
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>> No photos taken that I'm aware of.
>>
>> However, he did work with Doug on a "superior" design. Mondello said to be
>> sure and ask for Doug's Headers.
>>
>> http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ex/dougs/default.aspx
>>
>> IIRC, because of some legal stuff Doug has no relationship with Thorley.
>>
>> Otherwise, contact Joe directly.
>>
>> 2470 Pomona Road
>> Crossville, Tennessee 38571
>> 931.459.2760 - General Inquiries
>>
>> Byron Songer
>> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
>> Louisville, KY
>> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
>> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>>
>>
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>> MICHAEL FOSTER wrote:
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>>> A while back someone mentioned that Joe Mondello was bringing a new set of
>>> headers designed explicitly for the GMC 455 to the recent Rally.
>>>
>>> No other mention was made. I was wondering if Mondello actually brought or
>>> was showing a new style header for the GMC 455 and whether there were pictures
>>> or not?
>>>
>>> MICHAEL
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mondello new design headers? [message #84372 is a reply to message #84367] |
Thu, 13 May 2010 09:50 |
Steven Ferguson
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Thanks for the update Doc.
Even with that flange, those are quality built headers. The fellow
in San Diego who has done all my exhaust work (20-30 cars and the GMC)
grew up next door to Doug and Betty and spent a lot of time at their
shop. His parents were close and Sunday dinners with the Thorley's
was not uncommon. This pretty much confirms that Doug is back at it
under his original handle.
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jim White <jameswwhite@cyberwind.net> wrote:
> Steve-
> Joe did bring a set of Doug's/Mondello headers and he explained why he
> and Doug designed and manufactured them exclusively for the GMC motor home.
> He showed that a number of header gasket and leaking problems were
> causes by a poorly fitting flange. The flange was designed for the 403,
> not the same as the 455. Leigh Harrison acknowledged that he had been
> plagued by such problems and snatched up the sample pair that Joe brought.
> I may have pictures, but not sure what they would show.
> Jim "Doc" White
> Wintergreen, VA
> 75 GMC stretch
>
> ****************
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> On 5/13/2010 10:24 AM, Steven Ferguson wrote:
>> Byron,
>> Doug and Betty sold their business a few years ago. Doug is still
>> involved in headers. Back in the 60's he manufactured headers under
>> the name of "Doug's Headers". I think the Thorley name went with the
>> business.
>>
>> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Byron Songer
>> <bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:
>>
>>> No photos taken that I'm aware of.
>>>
>>> However, he did work with Doug on a "superior" design. Mondello said to be
>>> sure and ask for Doug's Headers.
>>>
>>> http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ex/dougs/default.aspx
>>>
>>> IIRC, because of some legal stuff Doug has no relationship with Thorley.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, contact Joe directly.
>>>
>>> 2470 Pomona Road
>>> Crossville, Tennessee 38571
>>> 931.459.2760 - General Inquiries
>>>
>>> Byron Songer
>>> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
>>> Louisville, KY
>>> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
>>> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> MICHAEL FOSTER wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> A while back someone mentioned that Joe Mondello was bringing a new set of
>>>> headers designed explicitly for the GMC 455 to the recent Rally.
>>>>
>>>> No other mention was made. I was wondering if Mondello actually brought or
>>>> was showing a new style header for the GMC 455 and whether there were pictures
>>>> or not?
>>>>
>>>> MICHAEL
>>>>
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| Re: Mondello new design headers? [message #84416 is a reply to message #84318] |
Thu, 13 May 2010 14:20 |
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| WD0AFQ wrote on Thu, 13 May 2010 00:12 |
| fred v wrote on Wed, 12 May 2010 17:20 |
can you remove the governor?
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Sure but you will need to drop the left header. I have pictures somwhere but you wont really see that the flanges are a little thicker and the holes are a little larger. Maybe I can find and post tomorrow. 600 bux for the coated headers. I think Leigh Harrison bought them but I could be wrong.
Dan
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since they re-designed them why didn't they make them so the governor could be pulled? is there a clearance problem?
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] Mondello new design headers? [message #84465 is a reply to message #84249] |
Thu, 13 May 2010 23:31 |
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No you need to loosen the header to get the governer off.
The unit is very similar to the Thorley, the difference between the
two is minimal as it is almost a copy of the original.
All the Thorley units are coated identical to the DOUG"S Headers.
Don't let Joe tell you it is special as it is standard in their price
book just like the one in Thorley catalogs.
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net> wrote:
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> gmchunter wrote on Wed, 12 May 2010 16:51
>> A while back someone mentioned that Joe Mondello was bringing a new set of headers designed explicitly for the GMC 455 to the recent Rally.
>>
>> No other mention was made. Â I was wondering if Mondello actually brought or was showing a new style header for the GMC 455 and whether there were pictures or not?
>>
>> MICHAEL
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> Yes He brought a fine looking set set to GMCES and sold them to an attending member. Â They are coated inside and out. Â His style is suppose to have larger flanges to better fit the 455s. Â His claim is they run cooler and don`t leak, cold or hot. Â I believe they are available from Him.
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