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amdgmcman is currently offline  amdgmcman   United States
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Greetings,
I have a 78 Royale I am considering selling, with a Coachmen center kitchen floorplan. This means the kitchen is on the passenger side, rear of the entry door. The refer is across from the entry door. The dry bath is to the left of the refer, in the rear is a double bed,(that is also a rear dinette). I am recently married and, my wife has a 2002 Coachmen class C with a Ford F350 chassis and a 6.8ltr V10. I have no room or desire to own 2 RV's so one must go. I really don't want to sell my GMC, but whatever one sells first ...The Royale took me on a 6200 mile excursion last summer and ran like a top. Like most of our GMCs there are some minor issues, (inoperable dash fan, Onan that works, but needs a new circuit board, and the air bags system goes through 30 amp fuses like candy). Other than that it is very clean, recent brakes, newer tires and Alcoas, has a tankless water heater ... the 403 runs like a top, the tranny shifts like a dream, and the ride is extemely quiet and smooth. Any interested parties, or thoughts on what it is worth?
Thanks,


AMDGMCMan
Alan M DeLuccio
78 Royale with
Coachmen,Center Kitchen Floorplan
09 Harley Davidson Street Glide
65 Corvair Monza Convertible
96 RAV4 2 door Manual 4WD
Long Beach, CA
Re: Selling my Royale?? [message #84232 is a reply to message #84227] Wed, 12 May 2010 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How much do you want for your coach? Do you have any photos? Do you have any idea what it would cost to get it working and reliable? Please let me know. Mike Sidley
Re: Selling my Royale?? [message #84235 is a reply to message #84232] Wed, 12 May 2010 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
amdgmcman is currently offline  amdgmcman   United States
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The coach is working and is reliable. The misc problems have nothing to do with how reliable it is. I would take it on another trip across the country tomorrow. Like any older, or even newer coach there are some minor issues to be addessed (as stated in the previous message). The previous owner, (i got the coach in 2001), interior, paint and much of the mechanics were entirely rebuilt in the mid 1990's. I have pics available.
Thanks,


AMDGMCMan
Alan M DeLuccio
78 Royale with
Coachmen,Center Kitchen Floorplan
09 Harley Davidson Street Glide
65 Corvair Monza Convertible
96 RAV4 2 door Manual 4WD
Long Beach, CA
Re: Selling my Royale?? [message #84236 is a reply to message #84232] Wed, 12 May 2010 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can you email me the photos? sidleylaw@earthlink.net
Re: Selling my Royale?? [message #84238 is a reply to message #84227] Wed, 12 May 2010 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd be interested in seeing some pictures also. Interesting floorplan. I can't seem to find it pictured anywhere. What is the price?

Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
Re: Selling my Royale?? [message #84250 is a reply to message #84227] Wed, 12 May 2010 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am recently married and, my wife has a 2002 Coachmen class C with a Ford F350 chassis and a 6.8ltr V10.
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I will assume you know what you are dealing with but construction wise, that old stick'n staples RV is only meant to last 10 years.

Also consider the best ride and such. the decision should be easy for you.



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Re: Selling my Royale?? [message #84262 is a reply to message #84227] Wed, 12 May 2010 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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amdgmcman wrote on Wed, 12 May 2010 12:13

Greetings,
I have a 78 Royale I am considering selling, with a Coachmen center kitchen floorplan. ...snipped... Any interested parties, or thoughts on what it is worth?
Thanks,


You say you have pictures, while not as good as putting eyeballs on the real coach, they would help in getting opinion's on price and ect. You should post them on the GMC photo site:

<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/>

Besides the GMC having better construction, the photo site, the Black List, and this forum are all reasons to "sell the box" and NOT to sell your GMC. In 10, 20 or even 30 years, you would be glad you got "out of the box" and kept the GMC.

I, for one, would like a coach with that floorplan. (Not sure if my marriage could survive a third coach. Shocked )

Want to trade for a 23 foot rear bath Birch?


Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo' http://m000035.blogspot.com
Re: Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84464 is a reply to message #84227] Thu, 13 May 2010 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
amdgmcman is currently offline  amdgmcman   United States
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Greetings,
I sat down with my wife and showed her the responses I received when I posted this suggestion of selling my Royale and she said... "There is no way we can sell the GMC now"!She realizes how much our coaches mean to us, and this one being my fathers before me, realizes how special my Royale is to me. So if anyone knows someone that would like to buy a very clean and Xlnt running 2002 Coachman Pathfinder Ford F350, V10 Class C ...
My sincere thanks for all the support,


AMDGMCMan
Alan M DeLuccio
78 Royale with
Coachmen,Center Kitchen Floorplan
09 Harley Davidson Street Glide
65 Corvair Monza Convertible
96 RAV4 2 door Manual 4WD
Long Beach, CA
Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84470 is a reply to message #84464] Thu, 13 May 2010 23:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This brought the best smile of the day! Congratulations.

Sent from my iPad

On May 13, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Alan M DeLuccio <delbassman@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Greetings,
> I sat down with my wife and showed her the responses I received when I posted this suggestion of selling my Royale and she said... "There is no way we can sell the GMC now"!She realizes how much our coaches mean to us, and this one being my fathers before me, realizes how special my Royale is to me. So if anyone knows someone that would like to buy a very clean and Xlnt running 2002 Coachman Pathfinder Ford F350, V10 Class C ...
> My sincere thanks for all the support,
> --
> AMDGMCMan
> Alan M DeLuccio
> 78 Royale with
> Coachmen,Center Kitchen Floorplan
> Long Beach, CA
>
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Re: Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84472 is a reply to message #84464] Fri, 14 May 2010 00:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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amdgmcman wrote on Thu, 13 May 2010 21:33

I sat down with my wife and showed her the responses I received when I posted this suggestion of selling my Royale and she said... "There is no way we can sell the GMC now"! ...


Smart lady. Sounds to me like you have a "better half."

Very Happy


Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo' http://m000035.blogspot.com
Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84505 is a reply to message #84470] Fri, 14 May 2010 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GREAT DECISION, you won't regret it !!

It's amazing....we go to campgrounds and people that pull in with $300k rigs come and talk to us about our GMC !!

One guy said, I just know you don't have anywhere near what we have invested and I CAN TELL YOU'RE HAVING MORE FUN THAN WE ARE !

Makes a couple feel GREAT !!

Ray


Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
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This brought the best smile of the day! Congratulations.

Sent from my iPad

On May 13, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Alan M DeLuccio <delbassman@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Greetings,
> I sat down with my wife and showed her the responses I received when I posted this suggestion of selling my Royale and she said... "There is no way we can sell the GMC now"!She realizes how much our coaches mean to us, and this one being my fathers before me, realizes how special my Royale is to me. So if anyone knows someone that would like to buy a very clean and Xlnt running 2002 Coachman Pathfinder Ford F350, V10 Class C ...
> My sincere thanks for all the support,
> --
> AMDGMCMan
> Alan M DeLuccio
> 78 Royale with
> Coachmen,Center Kitchen Floorplan
> Long Beach, CA
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84522 is a reply to message #84505] Fri, 14 May 2010 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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You would point that out just as I was beginning to think I've put enough
into Silver Lady.

I've been looking around at some great deals on SOBs that are less than 15
years old. Folks in those pushers don't seem to have much fun, however,
unless they're at a GMC rally.

Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com



Ray Erspamer wrote:

> GREAT DECISION, you won't regret it !!
>
> It's amazing....we go to campgrounds and people that pull in with $300k rigs
> come and talk to us about our GMC !!
>
> One guy said, I just know you don't have anywhere near what we have invested
> and I CAN TELL YOU'RE HAVING MORE FUN THAN WE ARE !
>
> Makes a couple feel GREAT !!
>
> Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net>
> To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 11:50:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says...
>
> This brought the best smile of the day! Congratulations.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 13, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Alan M DeLuccio <delbassman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>> I sat down with my wife and showed her the responses I received when I posted
>> this suggestion of selling my Royale and she said... "There is no way we can
>> sell the GMC now"!She realizes how much our coaches mean to us, and this one
>> being my fathers before me, realizes how special my Royale is to me. So if
>> anyone knows someone that would like to buy a very clean and Xlnt running
>> 2002 Coachman Pathfinder Ford F350, V10 Class C ...
>> My sincere thanks for all the support,
>> --
>> AMDGMCMan
>> Alan M DeLuccio
>> 78 Royale with
>> Coachmen,Center Kitchen Floorplan
>> Long Beach, CA
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84525 is a reply to message #84522] Fri, 14 May 2010 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Awwww man,
You knew you'd hear from me on that one! There's pros and cons. You
can get into a GMC cheap, get it usable and continue to make things
better from there. I got into mine in '96 for $12K. Far too much for
what it needed and I didn't have this (net) resource available at the
time. Here it is about a zillion dollars later. At 177K miles, it
was time for a new engine, trans, steering and tires. Very minimal
storage, tough to dry camp in and at best, 250-300 miles between gas
stops. A bit cramped for two humans and two small dogs at times.
I got into our SOB for $18K. 6 tires, one air drye, a differential
swap ($2,600.00) and 30,000 miles later, it is as ready to take on a
trip as it was new. Gets 11.3 mpg, carries 100 gal of FW and has
immense holding tanks and I stop for fuel every 900 miles. Washer
dryer, walk around queen bed, ice maker, huge battery bank and tons
upon tons of storage. It is also only 7 ft longer than the GMC (33
ft). Just hit 220,000 miles and it runs strong. 25 qts of oil every
8,000 miles ( Blackstone wants me to go farther). I do my own
maintenance.
But, all of our trips start with GMC rallys. Parly because of GMCs,
mostly of the people.
Having said all that, I still love the thing and the only reason I'd
part with this one is to get the 23 that I want and am going to be
very, very selective about buying.
There are good arguments for both and it would be difficult to chose
one over the other. Bob Lamey has a Foretravel, (very nice) and I
asked him once which one he'd sell. He said he'd go crazy trying to
figure out which one it would be.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Byron Songer
<bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:
> You would point that out just as I was beginning to think I've put enough
> into Silver Lady.
>
> I've been looking around at some great deals on SOBs that are less than 15
> years old. Folks in those pushers don't seem to have much fun, however,
> unless they're at a GMC rally.
>
> Byron Songer
> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
> Louisville, KY
> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>
>
>
> Ray Erspamer wrote:
>
>> GREAT DECISION, you won't regret it !!
>>
>> It's amazing....we go to campgrounds and people that pull in with $300k rigs
>> come and talk to us about our GMC !!
>>
>> One guy said, I just know you don't have anywhere near what we have invested
>> and I CAN TELL YOU'RE HAVING MORE FUN THAN WE ARE !
>>
>> Makes a couple feel GREAT !!
>>
>>  Ray
>>
>>
>> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
>> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
>> TZE368V101144
>> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
>> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
>> 414-745-3188
>> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net>
>> To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>> Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 11:50:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says...
>>
>> This brought the best smile of the day!  Congratulations.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 13, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Alan M DeLuccio <delbassman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> I sat down with my wife and showed her the responses I received when I posted
>>> this suggestion of selling my Royale and she said... "There is no way we can
>>> sell the GMC now"!She realizes how much our coaches mean to us, and this one
>>> being my fathers before me, realizes how special my Royale is to me. So if
>>> anyone knows someone that would like to buy a very clean and Xlnt running
>>> 2002 Coachman Pathfinder Ford F350, V10 Class C  ...
>>> My sincere thanks for all the support,
>>> --
>>> AMDGMCMan
>>> Alan M DeLuccio
>>> 78 Royale with
>>> Coachmen,Center Kitchen Floorplan
>>> Long Beach, CA
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
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Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84549 is a reply to message #84525] Fri, 14 May 2010 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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Steve,

Truth be told, I'm about at the point you mention. Two humans and two dogs
on a long trip means using the 26 feet judiciously, especially when it's a
rear bath arrangement. The bed almost always has to be put up each day and
made out each night. That gets old.

Just recently we discussed what we want in a motorhome. It involves my love
affair with the GMC which turns to the people which turns to the poor choice
we made with a rear bath (when you like sleeping next to the person you
really love). We're not old enough and haven't been married long enough for
twin beds yet. But, getting the bed out our putting it back on a daily basis
is for someone else.

So, I start looking for a different configuration in a GMC or a different
unit all together. My searching has turned up a 30 ft pusher without
slideouts. Great listing price of $29,900 for a coach that's always been
under cover except when on the road. Only 92,000 on a Cat engine -- just
broken in well. Another great find was a 40 ft diesel with one slideout.
Lots more room. Sleeps more. Looks sleek and not flat-nosed. Appealing. All
the bells and whistles including the non-Winnebago look in and out for
$49,500. Newmar makes some nice coaches.

So Martha says: "Can we really afford two?" Hum. Check stock prices. "Let me
think about that one." It gets down to the "feeling" issue. What do you want
in a coach?

The GMC would be for short trips and rallies. The SOB would be for long
trips and working in a campground or national park, which we want to do,
since it would involve many nights. (I can't imagine doing that in a GMC and
staying married, sleeping in one bed).

From the looks of the market right now, there are a lot of good coaches for
under $50,000 that will require very little work for being road worthy and
relatively modern inside. That sure makes for competition with it comes to
selling a GMC in great shape.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So is value.

As to the subject line of this thread -- the right decision was made.

Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com



Steven Ferguson wrote:

> Awwww man,
> You knew you'd hear from me on that one! There's pros and cons. You
> can get into a GMC cheap, get it usable and continue to make things
> better from there. I got into mine in '96 for $12K. Far too much for
> what it needed and I didn't have this (net) resource available at the
> time. Here it is about a zillion dollars later. At 177K miles, it
> was time for a new engine, trans, steering and tires. Very minimal
> storage, tough to dry camp in and at best, 250-300 miles between gas
> stops. A bit cramped for two humans and two small dogs at times.
> I got into our SOB for $18K. 6 tires, one air drye, a differential
> swap ($2,600.00) and 30,000 miles later, it is as ready to take on a
> trip as it was new. Gets 11.3 mpg, carries 100 gal of FW and has
> immense holding tanks and I stop for fuel every 900 miles. Washer
> dryer, walk around queen bed, ice maker, huge battery bank and tons
> upon tons of storage. It is also only 7 ft longer than the GMC (33
> ft). Just hit 220,000 miles and it runs strong. 25 qts of oil every
> 8,000 miles ( Blackstone wants me to go farther). I do my own
> maintenance.
> But, all of our trips start with GMC rallys. Parly because of GMCs,
> mostly of the people.
> Having said all that, I still love the thing and the only reason I'd
> part with this one is to get the 23 that I want and am going to be
> very, very selective about buying.
> There are good arguments for both and it would be difficult to chose
> one over the other. Bob Lamey has a Foretravel, (very nice) and I
> asked him once which one he'd sell. He said he'd go crazy trying to
> figure out which one it would be.


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Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84552 is a reply to message #84525] Fri, 14 May 2010 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steve, seems to me the best option for you is to hack 3 ft off the back of your 26 to get the perfect 23, unless you are just bored and want another GMC to re manufacture!!! Rolling Eyes

-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ

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Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84556 is a reply to message #84549] Fri, 14 May 2010 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Several thoughts here, Byron.

How many nights do you spend in the coach each year? Is that
number beyond what the two of you can handle in separate beds?
Compare that with the number of nights per year in home bed.

BTW, I can't remember anything we have done in larger beds
that we haven't also done in a twin bed!

I do understand the annoyance of having to make up the beds
every day. You might wish to consider using Trav-a-sack
bedding (or whatever they're called) that you could simply
roll out or roll up! You or your lady could also sew up
a custom fitted sheet set and blanket(s) for your beds that
could do the same.

;<)

Money Pit is my first ever motorhome. We've done the tent
thing, the tent camper ('66 Apache that we still own), a
light-weight 28' AeroLite travel trailer (T.T.) and the
current 30' Cedar Creek T.T. with a slideout.

I'm tired of the hassle of setup! I also want to be able to
haul either our Harleys or our little jet-powered boat to
destinations where we can use those toys.

The only other motorhome that has ever interested me is the
Trek by Safari with the "Magic Bed" that stores at the
ceiling of the coach when not being used, thereby keeping
the overall length down.

Additionally, I have admired the GMCs ever since they were
introduced back in the day when we were still under canvas
in the 1966 Apache Gold Buffalo!

By "right decision" I gather that you are going for an SOB
in addition to the GMC.

Cheers!


* Mac Macdonald *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *




Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 12:26:30 -0400
From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says...

Steve,

Truth be told, I'm about at the point you mention. Two humans and two dogs
on a long trip means using the 26 feet judiciously, especially when it's a
rear bath arrangement. The bed almost always has to be put up each day and
made out each night. That gets old.

Just recently we discussed what we want in a motorhome. It involves my love
affair with the GMC which turns to the people which turns to the poor choice
we made with a rear bath (when you like sleeping next to the person you
really love). We're not old enough and haven't been married long enough for
twin beds yet. But, getting the bed out our putting it back on a daily basis
is for someone else.

So, I start looking for a different configuration in a GMC or a different
unit all together. My searching has turned up a 30 ft pusher without
slideouts. Great listing price of $29,900 for a coach that's always been
under cover except when on the road. Only 92,000 on a Cat engine -- just
broken in well. Another great find was a 40 ft diesel with one slideout.
Lots more room. Sleeps more. Looks sleek and not flat-nosed. Appealing. All
the bells and whistles including the non-Winnebago look in and out for
$49,500. Newmar makes some nice coaches.

So Martha says: "Can we really afford two?" Hum. Check stock prices. "Let me
think about that one." It gets down to the "feeling" issue. What do you want
in a coach?

The GMC would be for short trips and rallies. The SOB would be for long
trips and working in a campground or national park, which we want to do,
since it would involve many nights. (I can't imagine doing that in a GMC and
staying married, sleeping in one bed).

From the looks of the market right now, there are a lot of good coaches for
under $50,000 that will require very little work for being road worthy and
relatively modern inside. That sure makes for competition with it comes to
selling a GMC in great shape.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So is value.

As to the subject line of this thread -- the right decision was made.

Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com

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Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84566 is a reply to message #84556] Fri, 14 May 2010 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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No, referring to the original post who decided to sell the Class C on a F350
chassis. Keeping the GMC was a better choice if keeping only one.

Our bed situation is this. We don't have a bed. We have to undo the couch
(home made jack knife) that gets in the way of going to and from the rear
bath. The edge (unfolded) is eight inches from the couch on the opposite
side.

We got the rear bath because we thought it was the only thing with a dry
bath and Martha, at that time, thought she couldn't tolerate a wet bath. She
has since realized the folly or that opinion.

Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com



D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:

> By "right decision" I gather that you are going for an SOB
> in addition to the GMC.


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Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84567 is a reply to message #84566] Fri, 14 May 2010 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Sorry I was confused, Byron.

We have always preferred to use the shower facilities at
campgrounds when possible. Even with the actual shower
stall in our 30' T.T., we'd rather somebody else have the
cleaning duties!! [;<)

Our current boat also has a separate shower stall and I
have used it several times because it is at least 1/4 mile
walk to the shower room up on the hill at our marina, but
usually we make that trek.

We NEVER used the wet shower in our previous boat or the
28' T.T. we had before Mister Twister took that away in '99.

I expect we will use our recently acquired Money Pit in the
same way.

I really do understand the annoyance of "using the living
room" for sleeping!


* Mac Macdonald *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *




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Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 14:47:33 -0400
From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says...

No, referring to the original post who decided to sell the Class C on a F350
chassis. Keeping the GMC was a better choice if keeping only one.

Our bed situation is this. We don't have a bed. We have to undo the couch
(home made jack knife) that gets in the way of going to and from the rear
bath. The edge (unfolded) is eight inches from the couch on the opposite
side.

We got the rear bath because we thought it was the only thing with a dry
bath and Martha, at that time, thought she couldn't tolerate a wet bath. She
has since realized the folly or that opinion.

Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
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Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84573 is a reply to message #84549] Fri, 14 May 2010 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Byron,
I have to admit that I probably would never have considered owning
two motorhomes but for these factors:
The minute I stepped in this Beaver Savannah, I liked it.
The price.
Short, waaay overpowered pusher.
The PO is fanatical about maintenance and everything he owns is top
of the line.

Last year we spend all but three months on the road. It would have
been more if I'd had my way.
We love that TravaSack on top of the Bear bed (TX to Chuck and Mary
Botts). The only way to go.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Byron Songer
<bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Truth be told, I'm about at the point you mention. Two humans and two dogs
> on a long trip means using the 26 feet judiciously, especially when it's a
> rear bath arrangement. The bed almost always has to be put up each day and
> made out each night. That gets old.
>
> Just recently we discussed what we want in a motorhome. It involves my love
> affair with the GMC which turns to the people which turns to the poor choice
> we made with a rear bath (when you like sleeping next to the person you
> really love). We're not old enough and haven't been married long enough for
> twin beds yet. But, getting the bed out our putting it back on a daily basis
> is for someone else.
>
> So, I start looking for a different configuration in a GMC or a different
> unit all together. My searching has turned up a 30 ft pusher without
> slideouts. Great listing price of $29,900 for a coach that's always been
> under cover except when on the road. Only 92,000 on a Cat engine -- just
> broken in well. Another great find was a 40 ft diesel with one slideout.
> Lots more room. Sleeps more. Looks sleek and not flat-nosed. Appealing. All
> the bells and whistles including the non-Winnebago look in and out for
> $49,500. Newmar makes some nice coaches.
>
> So Martha says: "Can we really afford two?" Hum. Check stock prices. "Let me
> think about that one." It gets down to the "feeling" issue. What do you want
> in a coach?
>
> The GMC would be for short trips and rallies. The SOB would be for long
> trips and working in a campground or national park, which we want to do,
> since it would involve many nights. (I can't imagine doing that in a GMC and
> staying married, sleeping in one bed).
>
> From the looks of the market right now, there are a lot of good coaches for
> under $50,000 that will require very little work for being road worthy and
> relatively modern inside. That sure makes for competition with it comes to
> selling a GMC in great shape.
>
> Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So is value.
>
> As to the subject line of this thread -- the right decision was made.

--
Steve Ferguson
'76 EII
Sierra Vista, AZ
Urethane bushing source
www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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Re: [GMCnet] Selling my Royale?? The wife says... [message #84575 is a reply to message #84552] Fri, 14 May 2010 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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The other option is to gut the thing and leave it with Tom Bradley.
He's done several (Bruce Tara used his patterns) and they are just
stunning inside. A lot lighter materials too.
It just bothers the heck out of me to mess with something that is
finished and works perfectly but that appears to be my only option.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Steve, seems to me the best option for you is to hack 3 ft off the back of your 26 to get the perfect 23, unless you are just bored and want another GMC to re manufacture!!!  :roll:
> --
> -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD  U S S  Kobiashi Maru: The Engineer's Motorhome
> Scottsdale, AZ
>
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