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Shower Drain question [message #83517] Fri, 07 May 2010 16:54 Go to next message
nchapekis is currently offline  nchapekis   United States
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A couple of weekends ago we replaced our toilet with a shiny new porcelain Thetford Style II. However, it now makes our pitted shower drain look even worse. I found a replacement at a local mobile home parts dealer, but I'm not sure how to remove the old one. I thought it would just twist off but it won't budge and I don't want to damage it or the drain pipe in case the new one doesn't fit right. Anyway, what is the best way to get the drain out of the shower floor? We have a GMC-outfitted side wet bath.

Nick Chapekis
Ypsilanti, MI
former owner - 78 Kingsley
Re: Shower Drain question [message #83521 is a reply to message #83517] Fri, 07 May 2010 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nchapekis wrote on Fri, 07 May 2010 16:54

A couple of weekends ago we replaced our toilet with a shiny new porcelain Thetford Style II. However, it now makes our pitted shower drain look even worse. I found a replacement at a local mobile home parts dealer, but I'm not sure how to remove the old one. I thought it would just twist off but it won't budge and I don't want to damage it or the drain pipe in case the new one doesn't fit right. Anyway, what is the best way to get the drain out of the shower floor? We have a GMC-outfitted side wet bath.

Nick, Here is a pic of the drain and part of the trap under the floor.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=23662&title=shower-drain-bottom-si&cat=3841
There is a nut that holds it in. I've never had it out but I think Dan Gregg has.
HTH


Wally Anderson
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Re: [GMCnet] Shower Drain question [message #83531 is a reply to message #83517] Fri, 07 May 2010 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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If you can't get that pitted old drain out, put a few pits in the new
thunder mug so they look like a matched set.
The drains do screw out but I'd soak it with some penetrant before
trying to force it. After soaking, try tightening it a few
thousandths, then try loosening it.

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Nick Chapekis <chapekis@gmail.com> wrote:
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> A couple of weekends ago we replaced our toilet with a shiny new porcelain Thetford Style II.  However, it now makes our pitted shower drain look even worse.  I found a replacement at a local mobile home parts dealer, but I'm not sure how to remove the old one.  I thought it would just twist off but it won't budge and I don't want to damage it or the drain pipe in case the new one doesn't fit right.  Anyway, what is the best way to get the drain out of the shower floor?  We have a GMC-outfitted side wet bath.
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Re: [GMCnet] Shower Drain question [message #83551 is a reply to message #83517] Fri, 07 May 2010 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nick,
It takes one of the so call special tools to take the drain apart. It
a forked tool that fits down inside the drain piece that you see in
the floor. You can find it in the plumbing tools at lowes or Home
depot. I made my own at the time. It can and will be a pain in the
butt to get it apart. It will screw CCW out and you need to hold the
plastic nut looking piece under the floor. Almost not enough room to
work under there. I have to do the drain in the Avion as I like the
drain that you can close to keep the holding tank from backing up into
the floor. Ask me how I know!!!. Those you can get from Cinnabar and
they are about $20 Dec 1998 issue of GMC News form Cinnabar has the
pictures and I will sent that to you offline as I will have to create
a PDF file.

John
On May 7, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Nick Chapekis wrote:

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>
> A couple of weekends ago we replaced our toilet with a shiny new
> porcelain Thetford Style II. However, it now makes our pitted
> shower drain look even worse. I found a replacement at a local
> mobile home parts dealer, but I'm not sure how to remove the old
> one. I thought it would just twist off but it won't budge and I
> don't want to damage it or the drain pipe in case the new one
> doesn't fit right. Anyway, what is the best way to get the drain
> out of the shower floor? We have a GMC-outfitted side wet bath.
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> Ypsilanti, MI
> 78 Kingsley
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Re: [GMCnet] Shower Drain question [message #83554 is a reply to message #83551] Fri, 07 May 2010 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Awhile back I remember someone posting a picture of a shower drain
that had a stainless sink screen that covered the old pitted one. It looked new and shinny.

Roy


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Re: [GMCnet] Shower Drain question [message #83571 is a reply to message #83551] Fri, 07 May 2010 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On May 7, 2010, at 6:50 PM, John Wright wrote:

> Nick,
> It takes one of the so call special tools to take the drain apart. It
> a forked tool that fits down inside the drain piece that you see in
> the floor.

If you are not worried about damaging the drain fitting then you can do what I did once. I put the two arms of a channel lock pliers down through the openings and then turned the channel locks with a large crescent wrench.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] Shower Drain question [message #83613 is a reply to message #83551] Sat, 08 May 2010 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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powerjon wrote on Fri, 07 May 2010 20:50

I have to do the drain in the Avion as I like the drain that you can close to keep the holding tank from backing up into the floor. Ask me how I know!



Thanks to John for providing me with the shower drain article from GMC News. You do in fact need to remove the toe strip under the bathroom door to access the P-trap nut and spud nut which hold the drain in place.

One time, I had a very full holding tank which began leaking onto the ground. Was an overflow added to the tanks in '78? (I know John's is a '77.) I have never had an issue with it backing up into the coach.


Nick Chapekis
Ypsilanti, MI
former owner - 78 Kingsley
Re: [GMCnet] Shower Drain question [message #83622 is a reply to message #83613] Sat, 08 May 2010 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No overflows Nick,
However, some leaks came directly from the factory, others were age
induced. If it didn't leak, the shower would have started filling so
maybe a leak is the better of the two.

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Nick Chapekis <chapekis@gmail.com> wrote:
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> powerjon wrote on Fri, 07 May 2010 20&#58;50
>> I have to do the drain in the Avion as I like the drain that you can close to keep the holding tank from backing up into the floor.  Ask me how I know!
>
>
> Thanks to John for providing me with the shower drain article from GMC News.  You do in fact need to remove the toe strip under the bathroom door to access the P-trap nut and spud nut which hold the drain in place.
>
> One time, I had a very full holding tank which began leaking onto the ground.  Was an overflow added to the tanks in '78? (I know John's is a '77.)  I have never had an issue with it backing up into the coach.
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Re: [GMCnet] Shower Drain question [message #83627 is a reply to message #83622] Sat, 08 May 2010 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nick, it is a tight fit under there, ain't it. Glad you got it figured out.
I am in Romeo.
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Re: Shower Drain question [message #83781 is a reply to message #83517] Sun, 09 May 2010 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nchapekis wrote on Fri, 07 May 2010 16:54

A couple of weekends ago we replaced our toilet with a shiny new porcelain Thetford Style II. However, it now makes our pitted shower drain look even worse. I found a replacement at a local mobile home parts dealer, but I'm not sure how to remove the old one. I thought it would just twist off but it won't budge and I don't want to damage it or the drain pipe in case the new one doesn't fit right. Anyway, what is the best way to get the drain out of the shower floor? We have a GMC-outfitted side wet bath.


Here are photos I took yesterday of the shower drain assembly from our 73, 23 ft, coach. The special drain removal tool is in the photo. Our drain had a strainer in the top which was easy to remove with a knife blade tip. May have been fortunate as this one unscrewed rather easily. Use plumbers putty when installing the new drain.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=33841&title=0025&cat=4620

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=33842&title=0032&cat=4620

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=33840&title=0013&cat=4620

May be too late to help Nick, but perhaps someone else may benefit.

Dennis


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Re: Shower Drain question [message #83809 is a reply to message #83517] Sun, 09 May 2010 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nchapekis wrote on Fri, 07 May 2010 17:54

A couple of weekends ago we replaced our toilet with a shiny new porcelain Thetford Style II. However, it now makes our pitted shower drain look even worse. I found a replacement at a local mobile home parts dealer, but I'm not sure how to remove the old one. I thought it would just twist off but it won't budge and I don't want to damage it or the drain pipe in case the new one doesn't fit right. Anyway, what is the best way to get the drain out of the shower floor? We have a GMC-outfitted side wet bath.

Nick,
I just had mine apart, if you don't get it with all the good ideas you did get here, give me a call.

I think I have that tool in my plumbing tools chest.

Matt


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Re: Shower Drain question [message #83850 is a reply to message #83809] Sun, 09 May 2010 22:27 Go to previous message
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Quote:

I think I have that tool in my plumbing tools chest.



I went out and bought the tool on Saturday. Got the drain out, got the new one in, then the coupling ring broke off. I didn't realize it until we poured some water down the drain to test it and it leaked at the coupling. The only places that carry p-traps and couplings that size are plumbing supply stores (maybe), none of which are open on Saturday (of course) and mobile home supply stores (the one by me closed ten minutes before I could get there). Should be a piece of cake to finish once I get the new coupling/trap. Thanks to everyone for their help.


Nick Chapekis
Ypsilanti, MI
former owner - 78 Kingsley
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