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GMC Land Speed Record [message #82925] Mon, 03 May 2010 14:04 Go to next message
carguy is currently offline  carguy   United States
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I haven't heard anything lately about a GMC going for the Land Speed Record. Does anyone here know if there is any current serious effort? Man! I'd love to do this!

Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #82929 is a reply to message #82925] Mon, 03 May 2010 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On May 3, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Bill Brown wrote:

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>
> I haven't heard anything lately about a GMC going for the Land Speed Record. Does anyone here know if there is any current serious effort? Man! I'd love to do this!
> --
> Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
> Coshocton OH
> carguybill@sbcglobal.net


The land speed record for a motorhome is a GMC
See this:

http://gmccoop.com/land_speed_record.htm

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #82940 is a reply to message #82929] Mon, 03 May 2010 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Interesting story. The first time out, they took the record without
ever shifting into High gear.
The second time out, they beat the old record with an engine that blew
before they crossed the marker. Not bad for a "coaster".

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
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> On May 3, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Bill Brown wrote:
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>>
>>
>> I haven't heard anything lately about a GMC going for the Land Speed Record.  Does anyone here know if there is any current serious effort?  Man!  I'd love to do this!
>> --
>> Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
>> Coshocton OH
>> carguybill@sbcglobal.net
>
>
> The land speed record for a motorhome is a GMC
> See this:
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> http://gmccoop.com/land_speed_record.htm
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> Emery Stora
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Re: GMC Land Speed Record [message #82942 is a reply to message #82925] Mon, 03 May 2010 16:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Searched the photo site for land speed record and found this:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=18725&cat=4599


Also, photo shows Dyno Sources Dennis Scher set record 9-14-06 at 102.7 miles per hour.

Go for it, we'd like to watch!

Michael
Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #82944 is a reply to message #82942] Mon, 03 May 2010 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dennis is a great mechanic....he's the one that installed our 454 TBI in our
78 PB.

Tony Partridge
Logansport, IN
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> Searched the photo site for land speed record and found this:
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=18725&cat=4599
>
>
> Also, photo shows Dyno Sources Dennis Scher set record 9-14-06 at 102.7
> miles per hour.
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> Go for it, we'd like to watch!
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #82949 is a reply to message #82925] Mon, 03 May 2010 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim White[1] is currently offline  Jim White[1]   United States
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Bill-
If you are serious about this, I know a guy who can build a high
performance 455 with reliability. With the appropriate final drive
ratio, lightened interior, and removal of pods and A/C's, we could have
a winner. I'm not interested in Caddy or 8.1 engines but could tolerate
a Go Bucs sticker on the rear.
Jim "Doc" White
75 GMC Stretch (which is not a candidate for racing)

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On 5/3/2010 3:04 PM, Bill Brown wrote:
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> I haven't heard anything lately about a GMC going for the Land Speed Record. Does anyone here know if there is any current serious effort? Man! I'd love to do this!
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #82998 is a reply to message #82949] Tue, 04 May 2010 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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The drawback to doing this is building a qualified roll cage in the
cockpit. It pretty much ruins the interior.
Having said all this, If Jim Kanomata would just invest a little more
in his coach, pull all the parts and cores out of it, I'd be glad to
drive it on the salt flats.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Jim White <jameswwhite@cyberwind.net> wrote:
> Bill-
> If you are serious about this, I know a guy who can build a high
> performance 455 with reliability.  With the appropriate final drive
> ratio, lightened interior, and removal of pods and A/C's, we could have
> a winner. I'm not interested in Caddy or 8.1 engines but could tolerate
> a Go Bucs sticker on the rear.
> Jim "Doc" White
> 75 GMC Stretch (which is not a candidate for racing)
>
> ************
>
> On 5/3/2010 3:04 PM, Bill Brown wrote:
>>
>> I haven't heard anything lately about a GMC going for the Land Speed Record.  Does anyone here know if there is any current serious effort?  Man!  I'd love to do this!
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #82999 is a reply to message #82998] Tue, 04 May 2010 09:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Steve,

I'll bet that Jim's Twin Turbo Caddy 500 could go faster than 102.6 mph WITH
all the interior in it!

From what I hear he doesn't need you to drive it! His right foot is pretty
heavy!

By the way I know where there's a GMC with a turbo charged, intercooled 455!
Don't know if it's for sale or not though.

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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The drawback to doing this is building a qualified roll cage in the
cockpit. It pretty much ruins the interior.
Having said all this, If Jim Kanomata would just invest a little more
in his coach, pull all the parts and cores out of it, I'd be glad to
drive it on the salt flats.

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Re: GMC Land Speed Record [message #83005 is a reply to message #82925] Tue, 04 May 2010 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does anyone know why he chose to run that huge drag inducing wing on the roof? Confused

A stripped down Transmode 23', lowered, with a big front spoiler must be good for at least 110mph with the same powertrain/gearing?

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/4599/1599_p18725.jpg


1976 23' GMCII By Explorer
Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #83007 is a reply to message #82999] Tue, 04 May 2010 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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I'd love to build a turbo engine. I just hate the thought of having
to go to EFI though. Just so many retrofit problems. I've got the
502 on Craig's list. Decided to give up on the idea of using it in a
GMC or my '55 Chev. I kept the compression at 8.5 so it will work in
just about any application.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I'll bet that Jim's Twin Turbo Caddy 500 could go faster than 102.6 mph WITH
> all the interior in it!
>
> From what I hear he doesn't need you to drive it! His right foot is pretty
> heavy!
>
> By the way I know where there's a GMC with a turbo charged, intercooled 455!
> Don't know if it's for sale or not though.
>
> Regards,
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
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> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Ferguson
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 12:25 AM
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>
> The drawback to doing this is building a qualified roll cage in the
> cockpit.  It pretty much ruins the interior.
> Having said all this, If Jim Kanomata would just invest a little more
> in his coach, pull all the parts and cores out of it, I'd be glad to
> drive it on the salt flats.
>
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Re: GMC Land Speed Record [message #83008 is a reply to message #83005] Tue, 04 May 2010 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WayneB wrote on Tue, 04 May 2010 11:08

Does anyone know why he chose to run that huge drag inducing wing on the roof? Confused

A stripped down Transmode 23', lowered, with a big front spoiler must be good for at least 110mph with the same powertrain/gearing?

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/4599/1599_p18725.jpg



My money is on because it looks cool.


Tom Lins
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #83010 is a reply to message #83005] Tue, 04 May 2010 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's to keep the rear tires on the ground at speed!

* Mac Macdonald *
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record
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>
>
> Does anyone know why he chose to run that huge drag inducing wing on the roof? :?
>
> A stripped down Transmode 23', lowered, with a big front spoiler must be good for at least 110mph with the same powertrain/gearing?
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #83011 is a reply to message #83005] Tue, 04 May 2010 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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I read somehwere that it was for appearances only, non-functional.
That coach was on Ebay and lasted about a day.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Wayne Barratt <waynebarratt@msn.com> wrote:
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>
> Does anyone know why he chose to run that huge drag inducing wing on the roof? :?
>
> A stripped down Transmode 23', lowered, with a big front spoiler must be good for at least 110mph with the same powertrain/gearing?
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #83024 is a reply to message #82999] Tue, 04 May 2010 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMCWiperMan is currently offline  GMCWiperMan   United States
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Ralph Brumbaugh of Wasilla, AK (and Alaskan Airlines) had one before my 2000
trip to Alaska. He and his family had several GMC's.

Ken H.


On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:

> ...By the way I know where there's a GMC with a turbo charged, intercooled
> 455!
> Don't know if it's for sale or not though.
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Re: GMC Land Speed Record [message #83025 is a reply to message #82925] Tue, 04 May 2010 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it is my understanding that he set no official record. he just made a pass at the 102 speed.


Fred V
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P'cola, Fl
Re: GMC Land Speed Record [message #83045 is a reply to message #82925] Tue, 04 May 2010 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Another speed idea I just had was that you could blank off the radiator grille to lower drag and cool the motor with the water from the blackwater tank. Laughing

1976 23' GMCII By Explorer
Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #83099 is a reply to message #82999] Tue, 04 May 2010 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We buried some cash into the RV Buddies coach this year so we might
plan on something later with the other GMC repair shops.
We need to get someone to donate a rule book and coach us on what we
need to do .
I heard that the faster you want to go, more item must be installed on
the coach.
The power is needed to accelerate the coach quickly.
Our coaches can go 95-110mph given enough time and space.
The altitude at the salt flats must be around 4,000ft.
I know I would need to drop my 3.70 final and go for 3.07

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I'll bet that Jim's Twin Turbo Caddy 500 could go faster than 102.6 mph WITH
> all the interior in it!
>
> From what I hear he doesn't need you to drive it! His right foot is pretty
> heavy!
>
> By the way I know where there's a GMC with a turbo charged, intercooled 455!
> Don't know if it's for sale or not though.
>
> Regards,
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Ferguson
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 12:25 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record
>
> The drawback to doing this is building a qualified roll cage in the
> cockpit.  It pretty much ruins the interior.
> Having said all this, If Jim Kanomata would just invest a little more
> in his coach, pull all the parts and cores out of it, I'd be glad to
> drive it on the salt flats.
>
> --
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> '76 EII
> Sierra Vista, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #83104 is a reply to message #82998] Tue, 04 May 2010 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steven Ferguson wrote on Tue, 04 May 2010 07:25

The drawback to doing this is building a qualified roll cage in the
cockpit. It pretty much ruins the interior. ...


Keep in mind there are several different levels of land speed racing requiring different levels of equipment. I read some of the rules a few years ago and seem to remember that roll bars where NOT required for our projected speed. (Less than 150mph or so.) But that was just rules for the racing association that I found at that time.

Another idea would be a dry lake bed. Isn't there clubs who do run's on dry lakes in California? Combined rally?

I think that to qualify as a "motorhome" land speed record, the driver (at least) would have to "live" in it for a specified time. Say, something like... 24 hours before and after the run.

I would like to see what speeds could be clocked by a basically stock GMC. It has got to be 95 to 100 mph.


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #83113 is a reply to message #83104] Wed, 05 May 2010 03:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Mike,

I agree with you 150% vis-à-vis the driver living in it!

Moe, (that's what Dyno Sources called their GMC) was a gutted Transmode NOT
a motorhome!!!

IIRC the last time this subject came up on the GMCnet somebody piped up that
they had gotten a speeding ticket for doing over 100 mph in their 8.1 Vortec
or a Big Block Chevy powered GMC.

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
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USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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I think that to qualify as a "motorhome" land speed record, the driver (at
least) would have to "live" in it for a specified time. Say, something
like... 24 hours before and after the run.

I would like to see what speeds could be clocked by a basically stock GMC.
It has got to be 95 to 100 mph.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record [message #83120 is a reply to message #83113] Wed, 05 May 2010 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I knew that coach, I helped them find and procure it.  it had been a command center for the Tamps Fl. Fire Dept.  We found it down in the keys and i drove down with a Dyno Sources mechanic to retrieve it.  Of course they never talked about that!  OK, I'll stop but Rob was right, it was a stripped down Transmode, never had a motorhome inside and my guess is the thing was not even close to it's limit at the record it set.  Heck, I think Kerry T. has a copy of a ticket going 110 MPH towing his Saturn!  Ditting to 62 MPH in 1/4 mile (our record at the drag race rally) there is no problem getting up to speed with a normally asperated 455 and from there I see no problem given a few considerations to spool a GMC right on up there.  The problem is not doing the speed, the problem is assembling the time and bucks to go out there, jump through the hoops and get the sheepskin.  It costs money to sit out there, bake your brain and wait in line--- get through
the safety inspection and make consecutive runs back and forth to make it official.  That is the holdback in my mind.  Heck, I had my "dumpster" coach at 95 MPH on a flat road in the middle of the night in Texas coming back from Mariposa with a flat bed trailer on the back!  Yes, that was stupid but I was never one to let that stop me!  The GMC can easily be a speed monster, we are doing things today with the motors that would crank our coach right down ti China if the body parts would do it.  I had a page on my site for a long time fueliing the creative juices and when someone took the challenge even though it was someone who screwed me I was proud that the record was made.  I would love to be more first person involved in a run myself, I guess saying i pushed others to do it will be my epitaph though.

Hey, is there someone out there that wants to sponsor a run?  You know we can do it!

Jim Bounds
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From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record

Mike,

I agree with you 150% vis-à-vis the driver living in it!

Moe, (that's what Dyno Sources called their GMC) was a gutted Transmode NOT
a motorhome!!!

IIRC the last time this subject came up on the GMCnet somebody piped up that
they had gotten a speeding ticket for doing over 100 mph in their 8.1 Vortec
or a Big Block Chevy powered GMC.

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Miller
Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 2:07 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Land Speed Record

I think that to qualify as a "motorhome" land speed record, the driver (at
least) would have to "live" in it for a specified time. Say, something
like... 24 hours before and after the run.

I would like to see what speeds could be clocked by a basically stock GMC.
It has got to be 95 to 100 mph.
--
Mike Miller
`73 26' X Painted D.
`78 23' Birchaven
Hillsboro, OR
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