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[GMCnet] original fan question [message #82255] Wed, 28 April 2010 10:37 Go to next message
Richard Lister is currently offline  Richard Lister   United States
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Hi all. I've replaced one with a Fantastic Fan (and it is fantastic...), but want to keep an original one in the bathroom (I like it). It had two speeds but now it only has the fast speed, so I need to replace the whatever-you-call-it on the switch. I think its a relay...? Could someone less electrically challenged than me interrupt at this point...?

Cheers
Richard, DC
'78 Kingsley
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Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #82265 is a reply to message #82255] Wed, 28 April 2010 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Richard Lister wrote on Wed, 28 April 2010 08:37

Hi all. I've replaced one with a Fantastic Fan (and it is fantastic...), but want to keep an original one in the bathroom (I like it). It had two speeds but now it only has the fast speed, so I need to replace the whatever-you-call-it on the switch. I think its a relay...? Could someone less electrically challenged than me interrupt at this point...?

Cheers
Richard, DC
'78 Kingsley




Contact Fantastic, they will fix you up for free. Their policy.

Oops, you are talking about an original fan, not a fantastic? Sorry.


Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB

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Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #82266 is a reply to message #82255] Wed, 28 April 2010 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Wilson is currently offline  Dave Wilson   United States
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Richard Lister wrote on Wed, 28 April 2010 10:37

Hi all. I've replaced one with a Fantastic Fan (and it is fantastic...), but want to keep an original one in the bathroom (I like it). It had two speeds but now it only has the fast speed, so I need to replace the whatever-you-call-it on the switch. I think its a relay...? Could someone less electrically challenged than me interrupt at this point...?

Cheers
Richard, DC
'78 Kingsley
http://www.thegmcproject.blogspot.com




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I don't know about the "fix" Richard, but attached is the link at Applied for a new one....


http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/908
<http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/908>




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Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #82270 is a reply to message #82255] Wed, 28 April 2010 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Lister is currently offline  Richard Lister   United Kingdom
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Thanks guys. It is just the little electrical component on the original 2 pole toggle switch I need to replace - it should take no more than a few cents and a soldering iron, but I wish I knew exactly what it was...

Any other thoughts?
Cheers
Richard, DC
'78 Kingsley
http://www.thegmcproject.blogspot.com
Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #82271 is a reply to message #82270] Wed, 28 April 2010 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My guess would be a resistor. I have NO idea what
resistance value or power rating would be required.

Are there any markings on the device? Numbers?
Color bands (which indicate resistance)?

* Mac Macdonald *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *



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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: richard.lister@yahoo.com
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:08:40 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] original fan question
>
>
>
> Thanks guys. It is just the little electrical component on the original 2 pole toggle switch I need to replace - it should take no more than a few cents and a soldering iron, but I wish I knew exactly what it was...
>
> Any other thoughts?
> Cheers
> Richard, DC
> '78 Kingsley
> http://www.thegmcproject.blogspot.com
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Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #82274 is a reply to message #82270] Wed, 28 April 2010 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Richard Lister wrote:

>
>
> Thanks guys. It is just the little electrical component on the
> original 2 pole toggle switch I need to replace - it should take no
> more than a few cents and a soldering iron, but I wish I knew
> exactly what it was...
>
> Any other thoughts?
> Cheers
> Richard, DC
> '78 Kingsley
> http://www.thegmcproject.blogspot.com


Just call Fantastic and they will mail you the parts you need free.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #82284 is a reply to message #82274] Wed, 28 April 2010 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Lister is currently offline  Richard Lister   United Kingdom
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The resistor/relay whatever it is, looks like a fuse with a wire coiled along its length - no visible markings. Just to emphasise this is an ORIGINAL fan I am talking about - not a Fantastic...
Cheers
Richard, DC
'78 Kingsley
http://www.thegmcproject.blogspot.com
Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #82286 is a reply to message #82284] Wed, 28 April 2010 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 28, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Richard Lister wrote:

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>
> The resistor/relay whatever it is, looks like a fuse with a wire
> coiled along its length - no visible markings. Just to emphasise
> this is an ORIGINAL fan I am talking about - not a Fantastic...
> Cheers
> Richard, DC
> '78 Kingsley
> http://www.thegmcproject.blogspot.com


That is a common wire wound resistor. Don't use a composite resistor
as it won't stand the current and heat.
Someone here that still has the original fan can measure it and give
you the resistance.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #82287 is a reply to message #82286] Wed, 28 April 2010 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And, it MIGHT be possible to remove that wirewound
resistor and check the resistance over the whole
thing or on each side of a break in the resistance
wire to determine the original value.

Best thing of course, would be for somebody who
has an intact unit to measure the resistance.

My coach is away from my home, but if nobody else
can get to theirs, I have the test equipment to
check mine out. I do know that the fan in my
recently acquired coach does run on both high
and low settings.


* Mac Macdonald *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *



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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:24:17 -0600
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] original fan question


That is a common wire wound resistor. Don't use a composite resistor
as it won't stand the current and heat.


Someone here that still has the original fan can measure it and give
you the resistance.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM




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On Apr 28, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Richard Lister wrote:

The resistor/relay whatever it is, looks like a fuse with a wire
coiled along its length - no visible markings. Just to emphasise
this is an ORIGINAL fan I am talking about - not a Fantastic...

Cheers
Richard, DC
'78 Kingsley
http://www.thegmcproject.blogspot.com



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Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #82305 is a reply to message #82287] Wed, 28 April 2010 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Lister is currently offline  Richard Lister   United Kingdom
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Mac, that's a great idea, thanks. If you (or anyone) could find what the resistance is across yours it will help me find get the right replacement.

Cheers
Richard, DC
'78 Kingsley
http://www.thegmcproject.blogspot.com
Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #82310 is a reply to message #82305] Wed, 28 April 2010 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Just remembered wife has Bible study tonight. I'll try to check after supper.



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** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *



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From: richard.lister@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:42:33 -0500
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] original fan question

Mac, that's a great idea, thanks. If you (or anyone) could find what the resistance is across yours it will help me find get the right replacement.

Cheers
Richard, DC
'78 Kingsley
http://www.thegmcproject.blogspot.com


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Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #82374 is a reply to message #82287] Wed, 28 April 2010 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Well, I made the trip to the coach this evening. What I have
is very different from what Richard has.

I have the itsy-bitsy noise-maker fan in BOTH vents. However,
there is a Max-Air hood with three-speed reversible fan installed
over the vent in the front of the coach.

Ergo, no comparison. Sorry!

I did notice that the Max-Air Power Vent has wire-wound dropping
resistors mounted free and in the airstream of the fan. Slick!


* Mac Macdonald *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *




From: k2gkk@hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:59:25 -0500
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] original fan question

And, it MIGHT be possible to remove that wirewound
resistor and check the resistance over the whole
thing or on each side of a break in the resistance
wire to determine the original value.

Best thing of course, would be for somebody who
has an intact unit to measure the resistance.

My coach is away from my home, but if nobody else
can get to theirs, I have the test equipment to
check mine out. I do know that the fan in my
recently acquired coach does run on both high
and low settings.


* Mac Macdonald *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *



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From: emerystora@mac.com
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:24:17 -0600
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] original fan question

That is a common wire wound resistor. Don't use a composite resistor
as it won't stand the current and heat.

Someone here that still has the original fan can measure it and give
you the resistance.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM



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On Apr 28, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Richard Lister wrote:

The resistor/relay whatever it is, looks like a fuse with a wire
coiled along its length - no visible markings. Just to emphasise
this is an ORIGINAL fan I am talking about - not a Fantastic...

Cheers
Richard, DC
'78 Kingsley
http://www.thegmcproject.blogspot.com

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Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #82498 is a reply to message #82305] Thu, 29 April 2010 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why don't you measure the resistance of it by connecting your ohm meter at the 2 ends, if it isn't burnt out it should measure I would guess less then 100 ohms. If that is the case it's probably the switch that is bad and you can solder the old resistor to your new switch. When wire wound resistors go bad there is usually a brake in the wire.
Roy


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Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #84216 is a reply to message #82498] Wed, 12 May 2010 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Lister is currently offline  Richard Lister   United Kingdom
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Good points all - thank you. Its definitely the resistor so I will keep trying to track one down.

Thanks for the input
Richard
Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #84277 is a reply to message #82255] Wed, 12 May 2010 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've found an old fan frame, but w/o the switch assembly. Darn my coach is not here. Bascily the resistor is in series with the fan motor in one position and full 12v goes to the fan in the other position. You can taylor the low speed noise by changing that resistor value within reason. The wattage needs to be same or a little greater, the fan breeze helps cool it also. My total out of the blue guess is 10 Ohms for resistance value. We shall see.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] original fan question [message #84280 is a reply to message #84277] Wed, 12 May 2010 20:45 Go to previous message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Do you know or can you measure the current draw for
the fan at 12-13 Volts?

Let me know and I'll calculate resistance and wattage
for several possibilities of dropping resistors.


* Mac Macdonald *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *




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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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> Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 20:35:13 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] original fan question
>
>
>
> I've found an old fan frame, but w/o the switch assembly. Darn my coach is not here. Bascily the resistor is in series with the fan motor in one position and full 12v goes to the fan in the other position. You can taylor the low speed noise by changing that resistor value within reason. The wattage needs to be same or a little greater, the fan breeze helps cool it also. My total out of the blue guess is 10 Ohms for resistance value. We shall see.
> --
> John Lebetski
> Chicago, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
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