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Hot Air Pipe [message #81137] Mon, 19 April 2010 21:37 Go to next message
Bob Horton is currently offline  Bob Horton   Canada
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I notice that the item described as "a hot air pipe" is missing from my air cleaner assembly. Is this something that many have removed over the years or should I be concerned. I notice that the vacuum line to the air cleaner assembly is also conspicuous by its absence.

Bob Horton
Brandon, Manitoba
Re: [GMCnet] Hot Air Pipe [message #81139 is a reply to message #81137] Mon, 19 April 2010 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It can be a good thing to have on a very cold moist morning.

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Bob Horton <bobsgmc@mts.net> wrote:
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> I notice that the item described as "a hot air pipe" is missing from my air cleaner assembly.   Is this something that many have removed over the years or should I be concerned.  I notice that the vacuum line to the air cleaner assembly is also conspicuous by its absence.
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> Bob Horton
> Brandon, Manitoba
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Re: Hot Air Pipe [message #81152 is a reply to message #81137] Mon, 19 April 2010 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob Horton wrote on Mon, 19 April 2010 21:37

I notice that the item described as "a hot air pipe" is missing from my air cleaner assembly. Is this something that many have removed over the years or should I be concerned. I notice that the vacuum line to the air cleaner assembly is also conspicuous by its absence.

Bob Horton
Brandon, Manitoba

If you are talking about that 2" or so piece of flexible pipe between the air cleaner and the exhaust manifold, you can get one at most auto parts stores. If the vacuum line is not connected then that pipe is not of any use. The valve in the air cleaner requires vacuum to open all use the hot air coming in that tube.

That whole assembly is used to prevent carburetor icing under certain temperature / humidity conditions. I do not even have one on my coach and I know a lot of GMCers also do not have one.

It is up to you if you want to bother with it.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Hot Air Pipe [message #81178 is a reply to message #81137] Tue, 20 April 2010 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Bob,
Before you hook up the stove pipe to the Thermac, make sure it works.
Apply vacuum to the disconnected port on the air cleaner and see if
the Thermac valve even works. They usually fail with age.
That thing is a not much more than a way to preheat the air to the
carb via the exhaust manifolds during the warm up cycle.

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Bob Horton <bobsgmc@mts.net> wrote:
I notice that the item described as "a hot air pipe" is missing from
my air cleaner assembly.   Is this something that many have removed
over the years or should I be concerned.  I notice that the vacuum
line to the air cleaner assembly is also conspicuous by its absence.


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Re: [GMCnet] Hot Air Pipe [message #81195 is a reply to message #81178] Tue, 20 April 2010 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob Horton is currently offline  Bob Horton   Canada
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Re:hot air pipe

Thanks to all for your comments. I may just leave the hot air project for another day. I agree that the valve may well have failed with age. The machine starts like a trooper anyway so I will take the whole matter under advisement as they say.

Regards

Bob H
Re: Hot Air Pipe [message #81269 is a reply to message #81137] Tue, 20 April 2010 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It also does one more thing in that it 'levels the playing field' for the the carb mixture. Since in pre EFI engines you have a fixed mixture but the engine would like it slightly richer when cold, leaner when warm outside, by blending the air to always be at 115 deg at the carb they could set the mixture during normal (light) driving to a constant standard and thereby tune to the leaner side of the equation for emissions still with good drivability. When you go to WOT the vac falls and it opens to full cold outside air so it is not a robber of performance. That's if it is all intact and still functioning. I like it have have mine in OEM config. Nest step is to add a second snorkel that only opens when vac drops. GM used this dual setup on most hi perf apps with the heat stove pipe only on the the Thermac side. I think the stock single snorkel is somwhat restrictive but was for noise specs. Induction noise on the open Qjet 455 is pretty loud.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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Re: Hot Air Pipe [message #81298 is a reply to message #81269] Wed, 21 April 2010 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob Horton is currently offline  Bob Horton   Canada
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Thanks for your note John. One day I'll get around to checking the actuator in the air intake assembly with my homemade vacuum pump and maybe hook the whole thing up. I will have to add it to my endless list of things to do. For some reason the list seems to be getting longer instead of shorter.

Bob Horton
Brandon, Manitoba

Re: Hot Air Pipe [message #81415 is a reply to message #81298] Thu, 22 April 2010 01:23 Go to previous message
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The hot air pipe will not do much good unless you also have the sheet metal stove around the exhaust manifold that the lower end of that tube connects to.

Steve Southworth
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1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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