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tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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I'm looking at getting the air dash air conditioner compressor running again. I believe my clutch is not working. I read in some earlier post on this subject that they're are many versions of compressors for the 455 olds. Does anyone have a clutch part number that I can give the parts store if I go to get a replacement?

Tom Geiger 76 Eleganza II KCMO
Re: air conditioning [message #80895 is a reply to message #80891] Sun, 18 April 2010 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Craig Lechowicz is currently offline  Craig Lechowicz   United States
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I don't have part numbers, but wanted to mention that it's not a particularly easy part to change. Need a special puller for the clutch hub, and either a special puller or a good correct sized gear puller for the clutch pulley and magnet assembly itself. Having said that. It's a pretty rare failure, as it's just a big electromagnetic that pulls the hub in. It's much more likely that there is an electrical problem (fuse, switch, low pressure switch, or wiring) or a low charge that keeps it from working. It's worth either checking for power at the clutch connector, or better yet, using a jumper lead to power it up and see what happens before you tear into it further.

Craig Lechowicz
'77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
Re: [GMCnet] air conditioning [message #80901 is a reply to message #80895] Sun, 18 April 2010 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is dollar wise to replace it with a rebuilt unit.
Part# AC Delco 15-2143


On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Craig Lechowicz
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> I don't have part numbers, but wanted to mention that it's not a particularly easy part to change.  Need a special puller for the clutch hub, and either a special puller or a good correct sized gear puller for the clutch pulley and magnet assembly itself.   Having said that.  It's a pretty rare failure, as it's just a big electromagnetic that pulls the hub in.  It's much more likely that there is an electrical problem (fuse, switch, low pressure switch, or wiring) or a low charge that keeps it from working.  It's worth either checking for power at the clutch connector, or better yet, using a jumper lead to power it up and see what happens before you tear into it further.
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Re: [GMCnet] air conditioning [message #80902 is a reply to message #80901] Sun, 18 April 2010 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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'm not sure, but the pully diameter is the main differance between the
Toronado and coach.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is dollar wise to replace it with a rebuilt unit.
> Part# AC Delco 15-2143
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> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Craig Lechowicz
> <craig.lechowicz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>
>> I don't have part numbers, but wanted to mention that it's not a particularly easy part to change.  Need a special puller for the clutch hub, and either a special puller or a good correct sized gear puller for the clutch pulley and magnet assembly itself.   Having said that.  It's a pretty rare failure, as it's just a big electromagnetic that pulls the hub in.  It's much more likely that there is an electrical problem (fuse, switch, low pressure switch, or wiring) or a low charge that keeps it from working.  It's worth either checking for power at the clutch connector, or better yet, using a jumper lead to power it up and see what happens before you tear into it further.
>> --
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>> '77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
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Re: air conditioning [message #80951 is a reply to message #80891] Sun, 18 April 2010 18:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tgeiger wrote on Sun, 18 April 2010 04:32

I'm looking at getting the air dash air conditioner compressor running again. I believe my clutch is not working. I read in some earlier post on this subject that they're are many versions of compressors for the 455 olds. Does anyone have a clutch part number that I can give the parts store if I go to get a replacement?


I replaced mine on the coach with one off of a Toronado. Mine had a bad bearing. I choose the Toronado one because it had a smaller pulley and would give more cooling at slower speeds.



Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] air conditioning [message #81462 is a reply to message #80895] Thu, 22 April 2010 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Craig Lechowicz wrote:

>
>
> I don't have part numbers, but wanted to mention that it's not a
> particularly easy part to change. Need a special puller for the
> clutch hub, and either a special puller or a good correct sized gear
> puller for the clutch pulley and magnet assembly itself. Having
> said that. It's a pretty rare failure, as it's just a big
> electromagnetic that pulls the hub in. It's much more likely that
> there is an electrical problem (fuse, switch, low pressure switch,
> or wiring) or a low charge that keeps it from working. It's worth
> either checking for power at the clutch connector, or better yet,
> using a jumper lead to power it up and see what happens before you
> tear into it further.
> --
> Craig Lechowicz
> '77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI


If you should decide that it is the clutch you can borrow a tool for
removing it from Autozone under their free tool loan program. i am
told that this can be done without removing the compressor from the
motorhome. I have not done this myself, though.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] air conditioning [message #81466 is a reply to message #81462] Thu, 22 April 2010 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Here is a nice photo album by EMBREP of replacing the AC compressor clutch bearing without removing the
compressor.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5194


Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN 38138-2066
USA



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n Apr 18, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Craig Lechowicz wrote:
>

I don't have part numbers, but wanted to mention that it's not a
particularly easy part to change. Need a special puller for the
clutch hub, and either a special puller or a good correct sized gear
puller for the clutch pulley and magnet assembly itself. Having
said that. It's a pretty rare failure, as it's just a big
electromagnetic that pulls the hub in. It's much more likely that
there is an electrical problem (fuse, switch, low pressure switch,
or wiring) or a low charge that keeps it from working. It's worth
either checking for power at the clutch connector, or better yet,
using a jumper lead to power it up and see what happens before you
tear into it further.
--
Craig Lechowicz
'77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI

f you should decide that it is the clutch you can borrow a tool for
emoving it from Autozone under their free tool loan program. i am
old that this can be done without removing the compressor from the
otorhome. I have not done this myself, though.
Emery Stora
7 Kingsley
anta Fe, NM

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Re: [GMCnet] air conditioning [message #81472 is a reply to message #81466] Thu, 22 April 2010 13:26 Go to previous message
Jon payne is currently offline  Jon payne   United States
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I changed the bearing on my compressor last year as you can see from my pics that Dennis posted. I rented the puller from Autozone, which was free! You just need to leave a deposit on your credit card. However they did not have the install tool that would fit. I think I just used a socket to drive it back on.

The procedure I used was found on the internet. Check out this link for a very detailed procedure.

http://www.bernardembden.com/xjs/comclutch/index.htm

Jon


Jon Payne
76 Palm Beach
Westfield,IN
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