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Re: [GMCnet] Bill Hubler Heavy Duty Front End Kit [message #80689] Fri, 16 April 2010 00:47 Go to next message
Obegone is currently offline  Obegone   United States
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I had JimK put a Hubler front end on mine right after the Santa Rosa GMCMI
rally in 2008.

I would do it again in a heartbeat, much better tracking, braking and the
cost was within $500 of replacing the old system. Mine is a 75 Palm Beach,
so not sure about the '73 part.

Ron
75 Palm Beach


In a message dated 4/15/2010 10:40:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
m000035@gmail.com writes:



Questions, mostly to Jim K, but of interst to others on the list.

jimk wrote on Thu, 15 April 2010 20:16
> On the Hubler kit , you get the wider wheel stance and a greater brake
system.
> Contrary to belief,only 60 % of the people know how to do the front
> bearing on the coach so this newer design makes it fool proof.
> The ball joint is easy to replace and you'll also have a 4-5 degree of
> caster that we all are seeking.The kit comes with a rebuilt A frame
> with reinforced torsion bar socket and new ball joints and grommets.
> In someways , the money spent is not really that much when you itemise
> everything .


I am think of completely going through the front end of one of my
coaches... what ever one I finally decide to keep. Odds are it'll be a 1973. I
like the idea of upgrading the stock system. Better brakes, wider stance and
better bearings, all seem desirable. But you have to look at the cost to
benefits ratio...

To install this kit:
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/635

Quote:
> Heavy Duty Front End Kit - (16-1000)
> Price: $2,995.00
> Bill Hubler Heavy Duty Front End Kit Bigger 12" rotors provide more
braking surface Extra heavy duty off the shelf bearing set Same tracking width
as rear wheels Features rebuilt and reinforced lower control arm with heavy
duty ball joint and a "beefed up" torsion bar socket
>
> I accept that I must return rebuildable core parts for core refund.


What parts are replaced with this kit? What parts are being reused? (and
may need to be rebuilt) What parts (cores) are needed to be returned?
Are the 1973 parts considered rebuildable cores?

Note: The page on Refurbished Control Arms - (Price: $1,049.00 for a set
of 4.) states “NO CREDIT ON CORE FOR 73 A FRAMES !!!” What
is the "core charge" (that I would forfeit) if I want to put a set on my '73?

It looks like, during a major refurbishment, a combined upgrade like the
Hubler kit, might not be THAT much more than OEM. I just do not have all
the facts... yet.
--
Mike Miller
`73 26' X Painted D.
`78 23' Birchaven
Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] Bill Hubler Heavy Duty Front End Kit [message #80704 is a reply to message #80689] Fri, 16 April 2010 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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You should come to Auburn GMCWS RALLY, and see them live,

http://www.gmcws.org/events.htm

JimK will be there ( the home of the QuadraBag, DualBag, and many other
unique GMC products.

http://www.appliedgmc.com/

Be there or be Square ( is that old or what ?)

gene


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:47 PM, <Obegone@aol.com> wrote:

> I had JimK put a Hubler front end on mine right after the Santa Rosa GMCMI
> rally in 2008.
>

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Re: [GMCnet] Bill Hubler Heavy Duty Front End Kit [message #80809 is a reply to message #80689] Fri, 16 April 2010 21:53 Go to previous message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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When you consider all the new parts you need anyway, your dollars
ahead wit the Hubler unit.
Anyone that wants to discuss the credit for cores need to call me as I
cannot type well enough to let you know
I will be here all day Sat.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:47 PM, <Obegone@aol.com> wrote:
> I had JimK put a Hubler front end on mine right after the Santa Rosa GMCMI
> rally in 2008.
>
> I would do it again in a heartbeat, much better tracking, braking and the
> cost was within $500 of replacing the old system. Mine is a 75 Palm Beach,
> so  not sure about the '73 part.
>
> Ron
> 75 Palm Beach
>
>
> In a message dated 4/15/2010 10:40:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> m000035@gmail.com writes:
>
>
>
> Questions, mostly to Jim K, but of interst to others on the  list.
>
> jimk wrote on Thu, 15 April 2010 20&#58;16
>> On the  Hubler kit , you get the wider wheel stance and a greater brake
> system.
>> Contrary to belief,only 60 % of the people know how to do the  front
>> bearing on the coach so this newer design makes it fool  proof.
>> The ball joint is easy to replace and you'll also have a 4-5  degree of
>> caster that we all are seeking.The kit comes with a rebuilt  A frame
>> with reinforced torsion bar socket and new ball joints and  grommets.
>> In someways , the money spent is not really that much when  you itemise
>> everything .
>
>
> I am think of completely going  through the front end of one of my
> coaches... what ever one I finally decide  to keep.  Odds are it'll be a 1973.  I
> like the idea of upgrading  the stock system.  Better brakes, wider stance and
> better bearings, all  seem desirable.  But you have to look at the cost to
> benefits ratio...
>
> To install  this kit:
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/635
>
> Quote:
>> Heavy  Duty Front End Kit - (16-1000)
>> Price: $2,995.00
>> Bill Hubler  Heavy Duty Front End Kit Bigger 12" rotors provide more
> braking surface Extra  heavy duty off the shelf bearing set Same tracking width
> as rear wheels  Features rebuilt and reinforced lower control arm with heavy
> duty ball joint  and a "beefed up" torsion bar socket
>>
>> I accept that I must  return rebuildable core parts for core refund.
>
>
> What parts are  replaced with this kit?   What parts are being reused? (and
> may need  to be rebuilt)  What parts (cores) are needed to be returned?
> Are  the 1973 parts considered rebuildable cores?
>
> Note: The page  on  Refurbished Control Arms - (Price: $1,049.00 for a set
> of 4.)  states  &#8220;NO CREDIT ON CORE FOR 73 A FRAMES !!!&#8221;   What
> is the "core charge" (that I would forfeit) if I want to put a set on my  '73?
>
> It looks like, during a major refurbishment, a combined upgrade  like the
> Hubler kit, might not be THAT much more than OEM.  I just do not  have all
> the facts... yet.
> --
> Mike Miller
> `73 26' X Painted  D.
> `78 23' Birchaven
> Hillsboro,  OR
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