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Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Suckiness [message #80164] Sun, 11 April 2010 13:36 Go to next message
kenneth hugelier is currently offline  kenneth hugelier   United States
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Jim,
     So you are saying that the 3:42 FD has spider gears like the 3:07? And the 3:21 ratio FD is a totally different animal?
If that is the case, I don't need a picture as I am familiar with the spider gear system, but planetary gears in a FD are really different.


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Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Suckiness [message #80263 is a reply to message #80164] Sun, 11 April 2010 22:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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The 3.21 is a 8 bolt case, 3.42 is a 10 bolt case.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:36 AM, ken hugelier <kahugelier@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Jim,
>      So you are saying that the 3:42 FD has spider gears like the 3:07? And the 3:21 ratio FD is a totally different animal?
> If that is the case, I don't need a picture as I am familiar with the spider gear system, but planetary gears in a FD are really different.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Suckiness [message #80314 is a reply to message #80164] Mon, 12 April 2010 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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Jim, I have a 10 bolt case, and I was told by folks here it is a 3.21.

Manny says the 3.21 doesn't have a vent.
Regarding my FD:

It has a vent
It has a check valve on the LH flange
It has a shaft that is apparently the same as a 3.21 since Manny sent me a shaft for a 3.21 and it fits.
It came off of a 67 Eldo. Tranny was 67AF.

Sooo.... what do I have then?


-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
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Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Suckiness [message #80328 is a reply to message #80314] Mon, 12 April 2010 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Chris,

Here's a group of pictures published by Larry W.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=16025

I will send you a copy of the 3.21 FD manual off line.

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Jim, I have a 10 bolt case, and I was told by folks here it is a 3.21.

Manny says the 3.21 doesn't have a vent.
Regarding my FD:

It has a vent
It has a check valve on the LH flange
It has a shaft that is apparently the same as a 3.21 since Manny sent me a
shaft for a 3.21 and it fits.
It came off of a 67 Eldo. Tranny was 67AF.

Sooo.... what do I have then?
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77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD U S S Kobiashi Maru (with leaky
Warp Drive Nacelle): The Engineer's Motorhome
Scottsdale, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Suckiness [message #80335 is a reply to message #80314] Mon, 12 April 2010 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You got me on this.
Maybe some how there is a special spider gear in the right side that
takes the 3.21 shaft.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Jim, I have a 10 bolt case, and I was told by folks here it is a 3.21.
>
> Manny says the 3.21 doesn't have a vent.
> Regarding my FD:
>
> It has a vent
> It has a check valve on the LH flange
> It has a shaft that is apparently the same as a 3.21 since Manny sent me a shaft for a 3.21 and it fits.
> It came off of a 67 Eldo. Tranny was 67AF.
>
> Sooo.... what do I have then?
> --
> -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD  U S S  Kobiashi Maru (with leaky Warp Drive Nacelle): The Engineer's Motorhome
> Scottsdale, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Suckiness [message #80371 is a reply to message #80335] Mon, 12 April 2010 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Yo Chris!

Now that you've gotten the manuals and seen the pictures on the photo site
what kind of final drive do you have?

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Suckiness

You got me on this.
Maybe some how there is a special spider gear in the right side that
takes the 3.21 shaft.

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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Suckiness [message #80384 is a reply to message #80314] Mon, 12 April 2010 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
roy1 is currently offline  roy1   United States
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Chris:

When you had the cover off all you need to do is divide the teeth on the ring gear by the teeth on the pinion gear . the result is the gear ratio.
Roy


Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Suckiness [message #80410 is a reply to message #80164] Mon, 12 April 2010 22:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Every photo and the manual point me to 3.21. Not interested in removing the cover to count teeth!!!! Very Happy

-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ

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Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Suckiness [message #80432 is a reply to message #80410] Tue, 13 April 2010 03:43 Go to previous message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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there is always this:


http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html#RATIO

could call this the "spin test "

gene




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> Every photo and the manual point me to 3.21. Not interested in removing the
> cover to count teeth!!!! :d
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