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| Re: [GMCnet] If you're only buying two new tires, [message #80018 is a reply to message #80011] |
Sat, 10 April 2010 12:39   |
midlf
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Registered: July 2007
Location: SE Wisc. (Palmyra)
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| Harry wrote on Sat, 10 April 2010 11:15 |
Does this apply to rear wheel drive only?
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No - any drive configuration. You always want the fronts to slip or slide first. If the rears slide first the vehicle wants to swap the end that is heading down the road. Watch the referenced video, it will explain and show all of that.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] If you're only buying two new tires, [message #80055 is a reply to message #80034] |
Sat, 10 April 2010 20:21 |
GMCWiperMan
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Registered: December 2007
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I, for one, am getting darned tired of being told what I can and cannot do
by every Tom, Dick, and Harry that governments and lawyers stir up one way
or another. We're being treated like, and perhaps are becoming a mob of
mindless robots. Maybe sheep herded by dogs. Home of the free???
Ken H.
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:37 PM, George Rudawsky <GeorgeRud@aol.com> wrote:
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> Generally we don't get too much discussion whether you want to set up your
> GMC to be loose (oversteering) or tight (understeering). This sounds like a
> Nascar test session? :lol:
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> Actually, it sounds like the tire people are getting lawyered up for
> liability reasons. As an old gokarter and autocrosser, I like my toys set
> up somewhat loose, but I don't think I want to be drifting a GMC!
> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] If you're only buying two new tires, [message #80056 is a reply to message #80031] |
Sat, 10 April 2010 20:28 |
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mike miller
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Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Sat, 10 April 2010 13:09 |
Would someone please explain to me how you wind up needing only two tires if you rotate them after running the same distance? ...
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Replacing two tires every other year is one way to keep from having a large tire bill every 6 years or so. Another way would be to set aside $12 (or so) every month for tires. Then it wouldn't matter 2 every 2 or 6 every 6, the money will be there... unless tire prices go up.
The first I heard about the end swapping problem and putting the best tires on the rear was about 12 years ago from my "tire guy" brother. (Who now manages a tire store in the Phoenix area.) For most drivers, directional stability is more important than directional control. It is by far more of an issue for winter tires.
I really do not think it is issue with our coaches. Each pair of our tires carry more weight than the total weight of most cars.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] If you're only buying two new tires, [message #80066 is a reply to message #80056] |
Sat, 10 April 2010 21:36 |
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USAussie
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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Mike,
I can appreciate the financial aspects of what you are saying below,
however, I'm sorry but I still don't understand if you rotate the tires at
equal mileage intervals why they would not all wear out at the same time.
Are you saying that it's more cost effective to leave the rears on the rear
and keep changing the fronts as they wear out?
Has anyone done this and if yes what mileage did they get out of the front
tires? How many years did it take to wear them out?
Frankly I doubt that I will ever wear the tires out on either of my GMC's
and that they will age out and need to be replaced at the same time.
From the data that has been presented to and opinions expressed on the GMC
net tires age out from 5 to 10 years. Personally I'll vote for 7.
In 2008 I fitted Kuhmo Road Venture KL78 tires from the Tire Rack. In 2015 I
will need to replace them. Currently they are selling for $97.00 each
($582.00) at the Tire Rack plus $129.28 to ship them from Shreveport, LA to
Humble, TX making a total of $710.28. The inflation rate for the past ten
years has been 2.82%; ramp it up to 3% the $710 will become $822. Divide
that by 60 and you come up with $14 per month, so $12 was a good estimate!
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Road+Ventur
e+AT+KL78&partnum=275QR6KL78OWL10&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
I agree you would have to go some to get a GMC to swap ends! Boy that WOULD
be one hell of a ride!
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Miller
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2010 11:29 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] If you're only buying two new tires,
Robert Mueller wrote on Sat, 10 April 2010 13:09
> Would someone please explain to me how you wind up needing only two tires
if you rotate them after running the same distance? ...
Replacing two tires every other year is one way to keep from having a large
tire bill every 6 years or so. Another way would be to set aside $12 (or
so) every month for tires. Then it wouldn't matter 2 every 2 or 6 every 6,
the money will be there... unless tire prices go up.
The first I heard about the end swapping problem and putting the best tires
on the rear was about 12 years ago from my "tire guy" brother. (Who now
manages a tire store in the Phoenix area.) For most drivers, directional
stability is more important than directional control. It is by far more of
an issue for winter tires.
I really do not think it is issue with our coaches. Each pair of our tires
carry more weight than the total weight of most cars.
--
Mike Miller
`73 26' X Painted D.
`78 23' Birchaven
Hillsboro, OR
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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