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[GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #79797] Thu, 08 April 2010 19:14 Go to next message
Richard Lister is currently offline  Richard Lister   United States
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I tried to fit one today, but the gap between the door and the frame on the hinge side is too narrow to allow the door to close with the screen door hinges in place. Is there any way to adjust that gap? Or some way around that problem? The bolts anchoring the hinge seem to allow the door to be moved towards or away from the body, but not to shift it laterally.

Puzzled

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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #79805 is a reply to message #79797] Thu, 08 April 2010 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMCWiperMan is currently offline  GMCWiperMan   United States
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Richard,

Bending the Birch door hinges, grinding the GMC hinge bolt heads, and other
drastic measures are among the things I did while wasting a whole week of my
life trying unsuccessfully to get a good fit back in 2000. :-(

Not meaning to discourage you, of course.

Ken H.

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Richard Lister <reliste@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I tried to fit one today, but the gap between the door and the frame on the
> hinge side is too narrow to allow the door to close with the screen door
> hinges in place. Is there any way to adjust that gap? Or some way around
> that problem? The bolts anchoring the hinge seem to allow the door to be
> moved towards or away from the body, but not to shift it laterally.
>
> Puzzled
>
> Richard, DC
> '78 Kingsley
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #79884 is a reply to message #79805] Fri, 09 April 2010 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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It helps to talk to people that have installed few of these doors as
each coach is different.
Lot of our customers contact us while installing them so we can give
them hints and save time and frustration.





On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com> wrote:
> Richard,
>
> Bending the Birch door hinges, grinding the GMC hinge bolt heads, and other
> drastic measures are among the things I did while wasting a whole week of my
> life trying unsuccessfully to get a good fit back in 2000. :-(
>
> Not meaning to discourage you, of course.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Richard Lister <reliste@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I tried to fit one today, but the gap between the door and the frame on the
>> hinge side is too narrow to allow the door to close with the screen door
>> hinges in place. Is there any way to adjust that gap? Or some way around
>> that problem? The bolts anchoring the hinge seem to allow the door to be
>> moved towards or away from the body, but not to shift it laterally.
>>
>> Puzzled
>>
>> Richard, DC
>> '78 Kingsley
>>
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #79970 is a reply to message #79884] Sat, 10 April 2010 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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I was looking at one on Carl Stouffer's coach tonight (Bruce Tara's
old coach) and was impressed with the fit and how nicely it closed and
latched.

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
> It helps to talk to people that have installed few of these doors as
> each coach is different.
> Lot of our customers contact us while installing them so we can give
> them hints and save time and frustration.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Richard,
>>
>> Bending the Birch door hinges, grinding the GMC hinge bolt heads, and other
>> drastic measures are among the things I did while wasting a whole week of my
>> life trying unsuccessfully to get a good fit back in 2000. :-(
>>
>> Not meaning to discourage you, of course.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Richard Lister <reliste@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried to fit one today, but the gap between the door and the frame on the
>>> hinge side is too narrow to allow the door to close with the screen door
>>> hinges in place. Is there any way to adjust that gap? Or some way around
>>> that problem? The bolts anchoring the hinge seem to allow the door to be
>>> moved towards or away from the body, but not to shift it laterally.
>>>
>>> Puzzled
>>>
>>> Richard, DC
>>> '78 Kingsley
>>>
>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80013 is a reply to message #79970] Sat, 10 April 2010 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Steve, Carl is very talented. He does have a very nice fit and I believe he called Jim K. on it a few times for help. If folks will work on the doors I think they are a good fit. It is just that we expect, when we pay that much, a "bolt on" application. Just is not the case with the screen door. We are putting something in a place that was not designed to have something there. I keep Teri away from coaches with these screen doors as she throws a fit to have one every time.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80045 is a reply to message #80013] Sat, 10 April 2010 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan..
You need to put a "phantom" type screen in.. I did last year and it is great!
Ron


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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80054 is a reply to message #80045] Sat, 10 April 2010 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMCWiperMan is currently offline  GMCWiperMan   United States
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That's sure what I'd do if I REALLY wanted a screen door (or SHE did). Not
just because of my bad experience trying to fit a Birch door, but because of
the "every time" nature of any swinging door -- it's there to contend with
EVERY time you open or close the entry door. No matter how trivial the
additional effort, it's still one you wouldn't have with the collapsing
door, which is out of the way completely except when you really need it.

Unfortunately, it would take a major rework of the X-Birchaven cabinetry to
avoid blocking part of the small entry opening to accomodate a Phantom-type
door.

Ken H.


On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 7:36 PM, rhusak <rhusak@compuserve.com> wrote:

>
>
> Dan..
> You need to put a "phantom" type screen in.. I did last year and it is
> great!
> Ron
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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80223 is a reply to message #80054] Sun, 11 April 2010 19:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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Steve,

I installed that Ragussa screen door last summer at my wife's request. It went on pretty easily, but, Dan's right (and thank you Dan for the compliment), I DID have to call Jim K. a couple of times for advice.

I am a carpenter by trade and consider myself somewhat of a door expert, but it took quite a while to get it adjusted right (hinge bending etc). It does work well now after trimming the vinyl weather strip around the outside. I was in kind of a hurry to get it working smoothly and did a lousy job of cutting the rubber, but I will eventually get some new vinyl and try again.

I think it is a good product and a viable alternative to the other options avaliable.


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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80232 is a reply to message #80223] Sun, 11 April 2010 19:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl, I might buy one and bring it out next winter so you can help me get it right. I am no carpenter.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80245 is a reply to message #80223] Sun, 11 April 2010 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl S. wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 19:00

Steve,

I installed that Ragussa screen door last summer at my wife's request. It went on pretty easily, but, Dan's right (and thank you Dan for the compliment), I DID have to call Jim K. a couple of times for advice.

I am a carpenter by trade and consider myself somewhat of a door expert, but it took quite a while to get it adjusted right (hinge bending etc). It does work well now after trimming the vinyl weather strip around the outside. I was in kind of a hurry to get it working smoothly and did a lousy job of cutting the rubber, but I will eventually get some new vinyl and try again.

I think it is a good product and a viable alternative to the other options avaliable.


Carl,
I had the same experience trimming the rubber seal. I called Ragusa and explained that I had ruined a piece of seal, and would like to purchase a replacement. He said "hey...no problem. I'll send some out tomorrow, NO CHARGE" Three days later I had it in hand. Try calling him. They provide great service for their items.


Larry Smile
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Menomonie, WI.
Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80279 is a reply to message #80223] Mon, 12 April 2010 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am surprised that it doesn't interfere with the outer door and I
thought it fit and worked quite well. I wouldn't hesitate to use one
on my next coach (if that happens). Nice job Carl. It takes at least
two trips through your coach to begin to see some of the nice
improvements that have been done.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Steve,
>
> I installed that Ragussa screen door last summer at my wife's request.  It went on pretty easily, but, Dan's right (and thank you Dan for the compliment), I DID have to call Jim K. a couple of times for advice.
>
> I am a carpenter by trade and consider myself somewhat of a door expert, but it took quite a while to get it adjusted right (hinge bending etc).  It does work well now after trimming the vinyl weather strip around the outside.  I was in kind of a hurry to get it working smoothly and did a lousy job of cutting the rubber, but I will eventually get some new vinyl and try again.
>
> I think it is a good product and a viable alternative to the other options avaliable.
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> Tucson, AZ.
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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80306 is a reply to message #80245] Mon, 12 April 2010 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the info Larry. I'll give them a call.

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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80307 is a reply to message #80232] Mon, 12 April 2010 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WD0AFQ said:

?
>Carl, I might buy one and bring it out next winter so you can help me get it right. I am no carpenter.
Dan

Oh Boy!!!!!!! Confused


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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80321 is a reply to message #80307] Mon, 12 April 2010 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl, I thought we were "buds". Laughing
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80404 is a reply to message #80321] Mon, 12 April 2010 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WD0AFQ wrote on Mon, 12 April 2010 13:27

Carl, I thought we were "buds". Laughing
Dan

You were until you mentioned Screen Door. Sometimes there is a limit.


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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80454 is a reply to message #80404] Tue, 13 April 2010 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OKAY...We'll do it....Just give me plenty of notice when so I can psyche myself up! Confused

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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80475 is a reply to message #80454] Tue, 13 April 2010 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl, is 8 months enuff psyke time?
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80509 is a reply to message #80454] Wed, 14 April 2010 00:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl S. wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 10:23

OKAY...We'll do it....Just give me plenty of notice when so I can psyche myself up! Confused


Man you wimped out on that one. I would have let him worry about it until at least next January or so.



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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80533 is a reply to message #80509] Wed, 14 April 2010 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, I know, Ken. Dan lives a stressful life and I didn't want to pile any more on him. Laughing Sure, Dan, eight months ought to give me enough psyche time and you enough time to save up. Them things ain't cheap! Confused

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Re: [GMCnet] Ragusa screen door [message #80538 is a reply to message #80533] Wed, 14 April 2010 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Yep, I need to call Jim and get a lay a way plans started. 50 bux a month might get me there by nex Feb.
Dan


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