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[GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology [message #78473] Mon, 29 March 2010 19:03 Go to next message
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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Good Evening Everyone

Well, I let my rat brain take over again and now I sit here having to send out an apology.

I was wrong in sending out the note on the Birch Screen Door issue like I did, I let my frustration get the best of me.

I want to apologize for sending it like I did and I especially want to apologize to Bob B for doing it. I have no idea what situation he's in or what's going on in his life, I was not trying to embarrass him or belittle him here, I was just frustrated and vented in the wrong way.

I got messages from many of you stating how Bob has helped you on many other things and there is no doubt that he is very well respected.

Thanks to all of you that responded in trying to help me on the door issue and thanks to all of you that sent comments telling me that this was wrong.

I sincerely appreciate all of you and your input.

Ray


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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology [message #78475 is a reply to message #78473] Mon, 29 March 2010 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Ray

Takes a big 'set' to apologize like that, nicely done!

Mike in NS




On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Ray Erspamer <78gmc-royale@att.net> wrote:

> Good Evening Everyone
>
> Well, I let my rat brain take over again and now I sit here having to send
> out an apology.
>
> I was wrong in sending out the note on the Birch Screen Door issue like I
> did, I let my frustration get the best of me.
>
> I want to apologize for sending it like I did and I especially want to
> apologize to Bob B for doing it. I have no idea what situation he's in or
> what's going on in his life, I was not trying to embarrass him or belittle
> him here, I was just frustrated and vented in the wrong way.
>
> I got messages from many of you stating how Bob has helped you on many
> other things and there is no doubt that he is very well respected.
>
> Thanks to all of you that responded in trying to help me on the door issue
> and thanks to all of you that sent comments telling me that this was wrong.
>
> I sincerely appreciate all of you and your input.
>
> Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology [message #78484 is a reply to message #78475] Mon, 29 March 2010 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Ray, you are a good man. Bob has also helped me many times. One of the most helpful GMCers I know. He even let me and Ken B. sleep in his coach last year at the work rally in Ohio. We all know how it is to get frustrated. Happened to me not long ago.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology [message #78494 is a reply to message #78473] Mon, 29 March 2010 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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It happens Ray.
I just know I read here somewhere that what you are looking for is
available at a big box store. Someone here reported that and I wish I
had paid more attention.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Ray Erspamer <78gmc-royale@att.net> wrote:
> Good Evening Everyone
>
> Well, I let my rat brain take over again and now I sit here having to send out an apology.
>
> I was wrong in sending out the note on the Birch Screen Door issue like I did, I let my frustration get the best of me.
>
> I want to apologize for sending it like I did and I especially want to apologize to Bob B for doing it.  I have no idea what situation he's in or what's going on in his life, I was not trying to embarrass him or belittle him here, I was just frustrated and vented in the wrong way.
>
> I got messages from many of you stating how Bob has helped you on many other things and there is no doubt that he is very well respected.
>
> Thanks to all of you that responded in trying to help me on the door issue and thanks to all of you that sent comments telling me that this was wrong.
>
> I sincerely appreciate all of you and your input.
>
>  Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology [message #78518 is a reply to message #78473] Mon, 29 March 2010 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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want to sell your door?

my 23 needs one ;>)

gene

> I was wrong in sending out the note on the Birch Screen Door issue like I
> did, I let my frustration get the best of me.
>

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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Trim [message #78524 is a reply to message #78494] Mon, 29 March 2010 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Ray,

Just spent some time at Lowes looking at the trim for FRP (fiberglas panels) but none of the stock sizes match your profile sketch. They have a book for special orders but the book was not available for my review. Also looked at suspended ceiling fittings -- but again nothing in inventory matched.
Some auto door trim -- the type with the metal crimp vinyl covered edge and the attached round rubber insulation might be made to work.


Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA



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From: Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology


It happens Ray.
I just know I read here somewhere that what you are looking for is
vailable at a big box store. Someone here reported that and I wish I
ad paid more attention.
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Ray Erspamer <78gmc-royale@att.net> wrote:
Good Evening Everyone

Well, I let my rat brain take over again and now I sit here having to send out
n apology.

I was wrong in sending out the note on the Birch Screen Door issue like I did,
let my frustration get the best of me.

I want to apologize for sending it like I did and I especially want to
pologize to Bob B for doing it. I have no idea what situation he's in or
hat's going on in his life, I was not trying to embarrass him or belittle him
ere, I was just frustrated and vented in the wrong way.

I got messages from many of you stating how Bob has helped you on many other
hings and there is no doubt that he is very well respected.

Thanks to all of you that responded in trying to help me on the door issue and
hanks to all of you that sent comments telling me that this was wrong.

I sincerely appreciate all of you and your input.

Ray


Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology [message #78526 is a reply to message #78473] Mon, 29 March 2010 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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Perhaps it could be made by gluing two or more types of molding togehter? Maybe a "U" channel and an "L" or a "T"??? If it is ABS or PVC, you can use the usual pipe glue (Solvent weld). If it is styrene, model glue will work. The store bought stuff will usually be printed with what it is made of, and if not, use the UPC barcode to look it up on the MFG website.

If not, I need a screen door. Razz


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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door [message #78534 is a reply to message #78473] Tue, 30 March 2010 00:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bukzin is currently offline  bukzin   United States
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Guess I missed a few things (again!)


Who is 'Bob B.', does he have a website or email?

Does he make wooden screen doors?



thanks!


Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door [message #78535 is a reply to message #78534] Tue, 30 March 2010 00:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day,

http://www.bdub.net/bobburkitt/

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Guess I missed a few things (again!)

Who is 'Bob B.', does he have a website or email?

Does he make wooden screen doors?

thanks!
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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
That Bob! [message #78537 is a reply to message #78535] Tue, 30 March 2010 00:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, that Bob.

He has been SUPER helpful with my questions/problems
in the past.

I owe him, big time.


Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door [message #78552 is a reply to message #78534] Tue, 30 March 2010 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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Speaking of wood screen doors, I'm not sure if I told this story or not........I was telling my wife that I wanted to find and install a Birch screen door.

She said, "why would you want to install a birch door, that's wood, won't it warp" ? I sat there and laughed so hard.......then when I explained what a birch door was she smacked me ! It was a riot ! I still sit and chuckle about it.

Have a great day !!!
Ray


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78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/




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Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:01:24 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door



Guess I missed a few things (again!)


Who is 'Bob B.', does he have a website or email?

Does he make wooden screen doors?



thanks!
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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door [message #78561 is a reply to message #78552] Tue, 30 March 2010 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Ray,

Your wife is a lot smarter than me! I NEVER thought about a "Birch" door
being made of wood!

However, this has gotten me to thinking. I have seen very curvy lounge
chairs made out of laminated plywood.

I wonder if it would be possible to make a "mold" a bit wider than the door
that matched the curvature of the GMC and use it to form three 1/4" plywood
sheets in layers one glued on top of the next from which a screen door could
be cut?

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray Erspamer
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2010 11:57 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door

Speaking of wood screen doors, I'm not sure if I told this story or
not........I was telling my wife that I wanted to find and install a Birch
screen door.

She said, "why would you want to install a birch door, that's wood, won't it
warp" ? I sat there and laughed so hard.......then when I explained what
a birch door was she smacked me ! It was a riot ! I still sit and chuckle
about it.

Have a great day !!!
Ray


Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/


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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door [message #78562 is a reply to message #78561] Tue, 30 March 2010 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Charles is currently offline  Charles   United States
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I have posted this before but since there appears to be interest in
screen doors I will post it again. A replacement idea for screen door.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5374
I understand the manufacture is no longer in business so one might
possibly get another screen manufacturer to start building these.
My Birch screen door is not all it is cranked up to be.
Charles
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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door [message #78570 is a reply to message #78561] Tue, 30 March 2010 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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Rob, Wood would be a good option. In the past boatbuilding life we did a
numerous "curvy" laminated screen doors and windows using 3mm baltic birch
plywood cut into 17mm strips and then using an aluminum jig and clamps did
some nice compound curves with the baltic birch plywood strips. Using epoxy,
the frames had remarkable strength. Very time consuming though. In looking
at the inside of the door frame you could almost wax the heck out of the
inside of the frame and use it as the template with a lots of little clamps
to hold the plywood strips. You would get an exact match and then just need
to relieve the sides for a really tight fit. That would be like a 6 large
cans of Fosters day mate!!

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door


> Ray,
>
> Your wife is a lot smarter than me! I NEVER thought about a "Birch" door
> being made of wood!
>
> However, this has gotten me to thinking. I have seen very curvy lounge
> chairs made out of laminated plywood.
>
> I wonder if it would be possible to make a "mold" a bit wider than the
> door
> that matched the curvature of the GMC and use it to form three 1/4"
> plywood
> sheets in layers one glued on top of the next from which a screen door
> could
> be cut?
>
> Regards,
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray Erspamer
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2010 11:57 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door
>
> Speaking of wood screen doors, I'm not sure if I told this story or
> not........I was telling my wife that I wanted to find and install a Birch
> screen door.
>
> She said, "why would you want to install a birch door, that's wood, won't
> it
> warp" ? I sat there and laughed so hard.......then when I explained
> what
> a birch door was she smacked me ! It was a riot ! I still sit and
> chuckle
> about it.
>
> Have a great day !!!
> Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology [message #78593 is a reply to message #78473] Tue, 30 March 2010 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KB is currently offline  KB   United States
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The stuff at home depot, lowes, etc, is regular u-shaped paneling trim pieces for a regular door.
I have never seen the complicated molding required for the birch screen door there, and I spend
far too much time (and money) at such places...

> I just know I read here somewhere that what you are looking for is
> available at a big box store. Someone here reported that and I wish I
> had paid more attention.
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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology [message #78598 is a reply to message #78473] Tue, 30 March 2010 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Terry Skinner is currently offline  Terry Skinner   United States
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Still doesn't fix your problem. If someone offers a product then he
(or she) should back it up......Terry

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Ray Erspamer <78gmc-royale@att.net> wrote:
> Good Evening Everyone
>
> Well, I let my rat brain take over again and now I sit here having to send out an apology.
>
> I was wrong in sending out the note on the Birch Screen Door issue like I did, I let my frustration get the best of me.
>
> I want to apologize for sending it like I did and I especially want to apologize to Bob B for doing it.  I have no idea what situation he's in or what's going on in his life, I was not trying to embarrass him or belittle him here, I was just frustrated and vented in the wrong way.
>
> I got messages from many of you stating how Bob has helped you on many other things and there is no doubt that he is very well respected.
>
> Thanks to all of you that responded in trying to help me on the door issue and thanks to all of you that sent comments telling me that this was wrong.
>
> I sincerely appreciate all of you and your input.
>
>  Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology [message #78604 is a reply to message #78598] Tue, 30 March 2010 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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I purchased the Birch Screen Door used, and they did send me all of the trim, but it was cracked and in bad shape, needed replacement.

Have a great day !!!
Ray


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78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
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From: Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology

Still doesn't fix your problem. If someone offers a product then he
(or she) should back it up......Terry

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Ray Erspamer <78gmc-royale@att.net> wrote:
> Good Evening Everyone
>
> Well, I let my rat brain take over again and now I sit here having to send out an apology.
>
> I was wrong in sending out the note on the Birch Screen Door issue like I did, I let my frustration get the best of me.
>
> I want to apologize for sending it like I did and I especially want to apologize to Bob B for doing it. I have no idea what situation he's in or what's going on in his life, I was not trying to embarrass him or belittle him here, I was just frustrated and vented in the wrong way.
>
> I got messages from many of you stating how Bob has helped you on many other things and there is no doubt that he is very well respected.
>
> Thanks to all of you that responded in trying to help me on the door issue and thanks to all of you that sent comments telling me that this was wrong.
>
> I sincerely appreciate all of you and your input.
>
> Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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Roy. Washington
'76 GMC
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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology [message #78617 is a reply to message #78598] Tue, 30 March 2010 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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On Mar 30, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:

> Still doesn't fix your problem. If someone offers a product then he
> (or she) should back it up......Terry
>
>
Terry

As far as I know Bill has never "offered a product".

He bought the rights to the Birch acreen door but has never gone into
production

He also got a limited amount of parts from Mr. Birch and has made them
available to people but he hasn't had an extruder fabricate any
plastic molding yet. That can be extremely costly with the most
expensive part being in having an extrusion die fabricated and
ordering perhaps several thousand feet of plastic extrusion to meet
the minimum order requirement.

If he ever decides to go into production I assume he will get the
extrusions at that time

Personally I doubt that there is a large enough market to justify the
front end costs togear up to production and that may be what Bill has
determined.

I once owned a company that used 20 different aluminum extrusions for
a product and we had about $80000 invested in dies alone


Emery Stora
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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology [message #78623 is a reply to message #78617] Tue, 30 March 2010 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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Excuse me. I said Bill but I meant Bob. Bob Burkitt.

Emery
On Mar 30, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Emery Stora wrote:

>
> On Mar 30, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Still doesn't fix your problem. If someone offers a product then he
>> (or she) should back it up......Terry
>>
>>
> Terry
>
> As far as I know Bill has never "offered a product".
>
> He bought the rights to the Birch acreen door but has never gone into
> production
>
> He also got a limited amount of parts from Mr. Birch and has made them
> available to people but he hasn't had an extruder fabricate any
> plastic molding yet. That can be extremely costly with the most
> expensive part being in having an extrusion die fabricated and
> ordering perhaps several thousand feet of plastic extrusion to meet
> the minimum order requirement.
>
> If he ever decides to go into production I assume he will get the
> extrusions at that time
>
> Personally I doubt that there is a large enough market to justify the
> front end costs togear up to production and that may be what Bill has
> determined.
>
> I once owned a company that used 20 different aluminum extrusions for
> a product and we had about $80000 invested in dies alone
>
>
> Emery Stora
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Re: [GMCnet] Birch Screen Door - Apology [message #78637 is a reply to message #78473] Tue, 30 March 2010 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
fbhtxak is currently offline  fbhtxak   United States
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Confirming Emery's comments about Bob Burkitt and the
"Birch" screen door, he does have some parts that he will
sell. I needed the top molding/left side when entering Mh.
It is the one that often gets shoulder-brushed when entering
and leaving. I installed the door 17 years ago and this is
the first part I have had to replace. I considered the price
Bob asked to be reasonable and found him to be a stand-up
person to deal with. I didn't ask about his production
plans, if any, and he did not offer any information. I don't
know if he is soliciting parts inquiries but he was
cooperative in accommodating me. If you have a parts need,
his email address is rburkitt@cinci.rr.com. He is prompt to
respond to email.

Fred Hudspeth
'78 Royale - Tyler, TX
'82 Airstream Excella 28' Motorhome - Anchorage, Alaska

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