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Sun, 28 March 2010 18:48  |
William A Little
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What are the tell tail signs of bad front wheel bearings?
I have a '75 Palm Beach with 80,000 miles and I am suspicious about a
squeaking noise from the pass front wheel.
The noise does stop with a firm application of the brakes, but does
return after a short time.
This is my first experience with a front wheel drive anything so I do
not know what to expect.
Any help or guidance is appreciated.
Bill Little
'75 Palm Beach
Super Pickle
Miami, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings [message #78349 is a reply to message #78337] |
Sun, 28 March 2010 19:21  |
jimk
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Sounds like it is from the brake pads.
Bearing people tell us that the life of a bearing is for ever as long
as it is taken care of properly.
There are too many variables on our unit.Seals failing and grease runs out, etc.
I would find someone that has a track record of working on the front bearings.
It is not complicated , but have seen top mechanics ruin it.
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:48 PM, William A Little
<william_a_little@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> What are the tell tail signs of bad front wheel bearings?
>
> I have a '75 Palm Beach with 80,000 miles and I am suspicious about a
> squeaking noise from the pass front wheel.
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> The noise does stop with a firm application of the brakes, but does
> return after a short time.
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> This is my first experience with a front wheel drive anything so I do
> not know what to expect.
>
> Any help or guidance is appreciated.
>
> Bill Little
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> '75 Palm Beach
> Super Pickle
> Miami, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings [message #78350 is a reply to message #78337] |
Sun, 28 March 2010 19:27 |
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USAussie
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William,
I would check the following things in the order listed:
1) brake pads dragging - caused by
a) brake line internal failure
b) piston seizing
2) outer cv joint (when was it last lubricated?)
3) wheel bearings (when was it last lubricated?)
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings
What are the tell tail signs of bad front wheel bearings?
I have a '75 Palm Beach with 80,000 miles and I am suspicious about a
squeaking noise from the pass front wheel.
The noise does stop with a firm application of the brakes, but does
return after a short time.
This is my first experience with a front wheel drive anything so I do
not know what to expect.
Any help or guidance is appreciated.
Bill Little
'75 Palm Beach
Super Pickle
Miami, FL
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings [message #78372 is a reply to message #78350] |
Sun, 28 March 2010 21:54 |
Ron
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Bill..
The fact that it stops when the brakes are applied is a good indicator to me that it is the brakes... There is a metal tab that touches the rotors when the pads are getting thin.. They stop touching if the brakes are applied.. So first thing Jack the front end up and pull the RF wheel.. If that is where you are hearing the noise.. Then the thickness of the pads is VERY easy to see..If you haven't had the wheel bearings serviced in the recent history.. Probably would be time to schedule that and have one of Jim K's Zerk installations done.. But it probably isn't a failure in the bearing making that noise!
Ron
now a P.O.
Conifer, CO
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings [message #108847 is a reply to message #78337] |
Sat, 18 December 2010 13:59 |
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MangoMushroom
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I have the identical problem with my Birchaven at the moment... I have become accustomed to wrenching on my rig myself, but have never done brake pad replacement.
Is this something I can tackle on my own? Any tips would be greatly appreciated...
Thanks everyone!
****MangoMushroom
`76 GMC Birchaven named "Harvey"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings [message #108864 is a reply to message #108847] |
Sat, 18 December 2010 15:22 |
Ken Burton
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Brake pads are easy. Just like most GM cars. Replace them before they wear into the rotors. The rotors are expensive and a huge job to replace.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings [message #108881 is a reply to message #78337] |
Sat, 18 December 2010 18:27 |
RadioActiveGMC
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When my GMC needed bearings it was all over the road. It was sloppy, and swagged alot at high speeds. It was easy to tell something major was going wrong something that brakes wouldn't of done.
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings [message #108884 is a reply to message #78337] |
Sat, 18 December 2010 18:37 |
Ernest Dankert
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Well you really won't know until you look. My bearings were supposedly serviced 5K miles ago, had the receipt to prove it. The hub self disassembled when I removed the knuckle to R+R the A arm bushings. Both sides were loose.
Morale of the story, until you see it with your eyes, you don't know.
1977 Eleganza II
Ogden NY
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings [message #108889 is a reply to message #108884] |
Sat, 18 December 2010 19:14 |
jimk
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60% of the people that service front bearings never check the Knuckles
and blame the bearings.
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Ernest Dankert
<edankert@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
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> Well you really won't know until you look. Â My bearings were supposedly serviced 5K miles ago, had the receipt to prove it. The hub self disassembled when I removed the knuckle to R+R the A arm bushings. Both sides were loose.
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> Morale of the story, until you see it with your eyes, you don't know.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings [message #108897 is a reply to message #108890] |
Sat, 18 December 2010 20:08 |
jimk
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If it would be ok, I need to annouce that I have over 200 front
bearings that I need to move now.
They are Timkin and I need to reduce the inventory. $73 each side.
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> don't let them service them without installing Zerks !!!
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> http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html#ZERK
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> gene
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> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:48 PM, William A Little <
> william_a_little@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>> What are the tell tail signs of bad front wheel bearings?
>>
>> I have a '75 Palm Beach with 80,000 miles and I am suspicious about a
>> squeaking noise from the pass front wheel.
>>
>> The noise does stop with a firm application of the brakes, but does
>> return after a short time.
>>
>> This is my first experience with a front wheel drive anything so I do
>> not know what to expect.
>>
>> Any help or guidance is appreciated.
>>
>> Bill Little
>>
>> '75 Palm Beach
>> Super Pickle
>> Miami, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings [message #267183 is a reply to message #78337] |
Fri, 05 December 2014 10:45 |
Jim at the Co-op
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Sorry, one other thing, if you check for heat everytime you stop and feel
no up/down movement in the assembly when you check I would drive on it.
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Jim Bounds
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> Not explaining this to get business but let me ask why it is you are doing
> the front wheel bearings? If there is movement in them, someone explained
> before that the wear will probably be found from an out of tolerance hub,
> knuckle or both. In that case you would have to get a replacement one
> shipped to you. There would be shipping both ways because of the value of
> the core. Also, if you have never pulled apart a front hub, you may not
> recognize the extent of the wear -- it's more of what itfeels like coming
> apart than the fact of doing it. How it comes apart and goes back together
> is something your recognize after doing a couple. Because of these 2 facts
> many people have removed them from the coach -- anyone can do that -- then
> box them up and ship them to us. We charge 1 hour ($80) to separate
> everything, find the issues and put it all back together ready to reinstall
> on the coach. We can also have the rotor turned for $12.
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> True you are paying freight in 2 directions but chances were all but sure
> there would have been shipping involved if there was a worn part anyway.
> It's not the cost as much as it is the expertise. I have no doubt there
> are contrasting views but what good is it taking it apart if you can't have
> whatever you will need waiting for you?
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> Jim Bounds
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> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM, les holmes wrote:
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>> Fred, thanks for the feed to Dan have made contact and will get-together
>> on Monday. He has the shop and tools to fit. Homer :roll:
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Bearings [message #267187 is a reply to message #108890] |
Fri, 05 December 2014 14:55 |
Keith V
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I will do just about any repair work on the GMC
I won't do front wheel bearings. Too much specialized knowledge. Too many special tools.
But to the OP I would not suspect bearings, it sounds like pads to me too
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
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