| Emissions/smog [message #78206] |
Sat, 27 March 2010 18:52  |
bukzin
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Location: North California
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Just had my '77 403 smogged as required by the state of California
for registration.
Got me to thinking; did GM have to make any changes to sell
these coaches in California?
Is there additional (of different) equipment on the coaches
which were sold in California?
Next question, is there a way to check to see if mine
was first sold here in CA?
Maybe with the VIN # ???
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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| Re: Emissions/smog [message #78207 is a reply to message #78206] |
Sat, 27 March 2010 19:00  |
C Boyd
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| bukzin wrote on Sat, 27 March 2010 19:52 |
Just had my '77 403 smogged as required by the state of California
for registration.
Got me to thinking; did GM have to make any changes to sell
these coaches in California?
Is there additional (of different) equipment on the coaches
which were sold in California?
Next question, is there a way to check to see if mine
was first sold here in CA?
Maybe with the VIN # ???
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I don`t know avout the VIN but A couple of things, the Calif coaches had a special carb. 75-76-Calif. 7045554 77-Calif. 17057559 78-Calif. 17058559
And they has 2 charcoal canisters.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: Emissions/smog [message #78222 is a reply to message #78207] |
Sat, 27 March 2010 21:14 |
midlf
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| C Boyd wrote on Sat, 27 March 2010 19:00 |
I don`t know avout the VIN but A couple of things, the Calif coaches had a special carb. 75-76-Calif. 7045554 77-Calif. 17057559 78-Calif. 17058559
And they has 2 charcoal canisters.
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And there are (were) heat shields on the exhaust pipes next to the fuel tanks. My 74 was sold in MS but came with CA emissions options. ?????
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Emissions/smog [message #78234 is a reply to message #78206] |
Sat, 27 March 2010 22:33 |
Len Novak
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I had mine done after it came in from MI. The gent who tested it had no
what idea what to look for. Five years later, and two different smog
stations they still have no idea.
Cheers,
Len and Pat
78 Kingsley, The Beast II with dash lights that work
Fallbrook, CA
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
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Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 4:52 PM
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Subject: [GMCnet] Emissions/smog
Just had my '77 403 smogged as required by the state of California
for registration.
Got me to thinking; did GM have to make any changes to sell
these coaches in California?
Is there additional (of different) equipment on the coaches
which were sold in California?
Next question, is there a way to check to see if mine
was first sold here in CA?
Maybe with the VIN # ???
--
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Chico California
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| Re: Emissions/smog [message #78236 is a reply to message #78206] |
Sat, 27 March 2010 23:09 |
George Beckman
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| bukzin wrote on Sat, 27 March 2010 16:52 |
Just had my '77 403 smogged as required by the state of California
for registration.
Next question, is there a way to check to see if mine
was first sold here in CA?
Maybe with the VIN # ???
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Our '78 came up on the computer as national standards rather than California standards. This would make sense as it has one canister. There is a visual portion of the CA test and my station seemed to know what to look for.
Now, how it was first set up as a national standards, I don't know as the glove box no longer has any sticker. My smog man had told me it would tell him once it started the test. Big Brother knows.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: Emissions/smog [message #78241 is a reply to message #78236] |
Sun, 28 March 2010 00:29 |
Ken Burton
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I have a California coach. It had the above listed items of carb, heat shields, and 2 canisters. All of that crap is now gone except the exhaust heat shields. My California PO changed the carb before I got it. I got rid of the canisters and TVS.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Emissions/smog [message #78243 is a reply to message #78241] |
Sun, 28 March 2010 00:39 |
bukzin
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So outside of what a previous owner passed along,
how do I know if mine was first sold in California?
Is it in the registry records?
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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| Re: Emissions/smog [message #78244 is a reply to message #78243] |
Sun, 28 March 2010 00:45 |
Ken Burton
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| bukzin wrote on Sun, 28 March 2010 00:39 |
So outside of what a previous owner passed along,
how do I know if mine was first sold in California?
Is it in the registry records?
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Look for two heat shields on the exhaust pipe as it passes along side of the gas tanks.
Look for two charcoal canisters mounted low on the firewall behind the rear of the engine on the passenger side. If there is only one canister it is a USA / Canada coach. If there are two it is a Peoples Republic of Kalifornia coach.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Emissions/smog [message #78257 is a reply to message #78241] |
Sun, 28 March 2010 10:04 |
George Beckman
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| Ken Burton wrote on Sat, 27 March 2010 22:29 |
I have a California coach. It had the above listed items of carb, heat shields, and 2 canisters. All of that crap is now gone except the exhaust heat shields. My California PO changed the carb before I got it. I got rid of the canisters and TVS.
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My take was to go the other way with the canister. I bought a new separator and canister so 1) I would never smell gas and 2) I get to burn what would have evaporated off to the four winds.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: Emissions/smog [message #78302 is a reply to message #78257] |
Sun, 28 March 2010 14:59 |
Ken Burton
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Location: Hebron, Indiana
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| George Beckman wrote on Sun, 28 March 2010 10:04 |
| Ken Burton wrote on Sat, 27 March 2010 22:29 |
I have a California coach. It had the above listed items of carb, heat shields, and 2 canisters. All of that crap is now gone except the exhaust heat shields. My California PO changed the carb before I got it. I got rid of the canisters and TVS.
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My take was to go the other way with the canister. I bought a new separator and canister so 1) I would never smell gas and 2) I get to burn what would have evaporated off to the four winds.
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That is probably not a bad idea in California. I put it on my list of "to do's", but I know I'll never go around to doing it.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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