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Well here you are Sports Fans, Manny at the 49er rally Sat 3.14.10
(yesterday) with his new Disesel. WAY TO GO MANNY !!!!!!

http://gmcwsproducts.blogspot.com/2010/03/diesel1.html

The (#@%&*^$#$) Utube would not take the video so here is a small version
till I get home for the rest.

more to follow
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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76599 is a reply to message #76597] Sun, 14 March 2010 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Uhhhh, Manny,

My Caddie may have been slow to start, but it don't make them noises! :-)

Ken H.


On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>wrote:

> Well here you are Sports Fans, Manny at the 49er rally Sat 3.14.10
> (yesterday) with his new Disesel. WAY TO GO MANNY !!!!!!
>
> http://gmcwsproducts.blogspot.com/2010/03/diesel1.html
>
> The (#@%&*^$#$) Utube would not take the video so here is a small version
> till I get home for the rest.
>
> more to follow
> gene
>
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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76600 is a reply to message #76597] Sun, 14 March 2010 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMCWiperMan is currently offline  GMCWiperMan   United States
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Hey, Gene,

Where are all the details? What kind of engine? How long's he been working
on it? (I had heard rumors)

Ken H.


On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>wrote:

> Well here you are Sports Fans, Manny at the 49er rally Sat 3.14.10
> (yesterday) with his new Disesel. WAY TO GO MANNY !!!!!!
>
> http://gmcwsproducts.blogspot.com/2010/03/diesel1.html
>
> The (#@%&*^$#$) Utube would not take the video so here is a small version
> till I get home for the rest.
>
> more to follow
> gene
>
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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76605 is a reply to message #76597] Sun, 14 March 2010 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Gene;

Thanks for the video. That is EXCITING!! Can hardly wait for Manny
to share the details. He's DA MAN...

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well here you are Sports Fans, Manny at the 49er rally Sat 3.14.10
> (yesterday) with his new Disesel.    WAY TO GO MANNY !!!!!!

> gene

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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76607 is a reply to message #76597] Sun, 14 March 2010 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Subject: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY

Well here you are Sports Fans, Manny at the 49er rally Sat 3.14.10
(yesterday) with his new Disesel. WAY TO GO MANNY !!!!!!

http://gmcwsproducts.blogspot.com/2010/03/diesel1.html

The (#@%&*^$#$) Utube would not take the video so here is a small version
till I get home for the rest.

more to follow
gene


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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76621 is a reply to message #76597] Sun, 14 March 2010 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr ERFisher wrote on Sun, 14 March 2010 07:23

Well here you are Sports Fans, Manny at the 49er rally Sat 3.14.10
(yesterday) with his new Disesel. WAY TO GO MANNY !!!!!!

http://gmcwsproducts.blogspot.com/2010/03/diesel1.html

The (#@%&*^$#$) Utube would not take the video so here is a small version
till I get home for the rest.

more to follow
gene



What is all of that racket? It sounds like the fan is hitting the radiator or something.

I was expecting to see some burnouts or something......Nothing


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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76627 is a reply to message #76597] Sun, 14 March 2010 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I found a couple of pictures of a Cummins 4BT engine that was stuffed
into a GMC Motorhome a little while back. This one sounds EXACTLY the
same as Manny's. Love the diesel death rattle...

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32707&title=4bt-top-of-engine&cat=5416

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32706&title=4bt-front-of-engine&cat=5416

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well here you are Sports Fans, Manny at the 49er rally Sat 3.14.10
> (yesterday) with his new Disesel.    WAY TO GO MANNY !!!!!!

> gene

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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76628 is a reply to message #76627] Sun, 14 March 2010 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Must be the little 6 L from the pickup trucks. NOISY! Must have 4"
of insulation on the hatch.
Are guys sure Manny shouldn't just put premium in to get rid of that knock?

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
> I found a couple of pictures of a Cummins 4BT engine that was stuffed
> into a GMC Motorhome a little while back. This one sounds EXACTLY the
> same as Manny's. Love the diesel death rattle...
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32707&title=4bt-top-of-engine&cat=5416
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32706&title=4bt-front-of-engine&cat=5416
>
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well here you are Sports Fans, Manny at the 49er rally Sat 3.14.10
>> (yesterday) with his new Disesel.    WAY TO GO MANNY !!!!!!
>
>> gene
>
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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76641 is a reply to message #76628] Sun, 14 March 2010 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All that racket and it is a 4 banger. Manny said it is like they use in these delivery vans, UPS kinda trucks. I am anxious to see how it does for him over a period of miles. He was thinking 15 mpg. I could put up with a little noise for that kind of mileage. And, Ken, who told you it was noisy? Laughing
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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76646 is a reply to message #76641] Sun, 14 March 2010 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I could feel my teeth rattling!

Ken H.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> All that racket and it is a 4 banger. Manny said it is like they use in
> these delivery vans, UPS kinda trucks. I am anxious to see how it does for
> him over a period of miles. He was thinking 15 mpg. I could put up with a
> little noise for that kind of mileage. And, Ken, who told you it was noisy?
> :lol:
> Dan
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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76652 is a reply to message #76646] Sun, 14 March 2010 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I could here it all the way over here in Indiana. Now that is noisy. With all of that noise I can't see what Ken H. is worrying about with his. Just drive it Ken and it will wear in.

Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76656 is a reply to message #76652] Sun, 14 March 2010 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It sounded worse on the video than it really is. It IS quite noisy at
idle (like most old tech diesels), but as soon as Manny comes off the
idle step and it is not too bad.

On 3/14/2010 5:38 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
>
> I could here it all the way over here in Indiana. Now that is noisy. With all of that noise I can't see what Ken H. is worrying about with his. Just drive it Ken and it will wear in.
>

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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76708 is a reply to message #76627] Mon, 15 March 2010 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would like to see some photos of Manny's engine install!

I'd also like to know the contact info for the guy with the Cummins 4BT
install. I've been thinking that that would be an ideal engine for the GMC
if it can be installed reliably.

Thanks,
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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76715 is a reply to message #76708] Mon, 15 March 2010 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Les;

I guess you missed the thinly veiled hint in my last post
("EXACTLY"). The Cummins 4BT is the engine that Manny put into his
coach, and the two clandestine pictures are of that engine as it was
installed. Manny really doesn't like pictures or videos taken while
he's doing things, but man does he do some EXCITING things to his GMC.

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Les Burt <burtco99@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I would like to see some photos of Manny's engine install!
>
> I'd also like to know the contact info for the guy with the Cummins 4BT
> install. I've been thinking that that would be an ideal engine for the GMC
> if it can be installed reliably.
>
> Thanks,
> Les Burt

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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76716 is a reply to message #76708] Mon, 15 March 2010 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Even though I tease him about the noise, you can bet if Manny did it, it was done right.

I also would love to see it.

Ken B.


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Thanks Gary,

I thought I detected a "hint" but my pappa taught me to never assume!

Does anyone have any details on how much oil pan rework was required to do
the 4BT swap? The Cummins "BT series" engines have a fairly long stroke, so
crank clearance must be tight around the drive axle. I'd sure like to do a
4BT swap. A 6BT would be even better, but due to length, I doubt it's even
possible without major work up front.

I need to give Manny a call about some transmission problems when he is back
in his shop, so I'll try to pry some info out of him about his engine swap
while we are talking.

Thanks,
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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76753 is a reply to message #76597] Mon, 15 March 2010 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would think the big Isuzu NPR truck diesel engines would be a good choice because:
1. They are already in Motorhome service on some SOB's
2. They are regularly bolted to GM Automatics (Albiet Chevy pattern no doubt)
3. They are pretty quiet
4. There are a lot of those trucks around, so parts and service should be easily available.
5. They are four-bangers so they should fit. A five should fit too if there are any.


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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #76779 is a reply to message #76597] Mon, 15 March 2010 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here are the two videos of the GMC diesel on Utube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4t-BRTQl8g

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbK-ZLYJG3o



On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>wrote:

> Well here you are Sports Fans, Manny at the 49er rally Sat 3.14.10
> (yesterday) with his new Disesel. WAY TO GO MANNY !!!!!!
>
> http://gmcwsproducts.blogspot.com/2010/03/diesel1.html
>
> The (#@%&*^$#$) Utube would not take the video so here is a small version
> till I get home for the rest.
>
> more to follow
> gene
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] MANNY GOT-ER-DONE -- DIESEL AT 49er RALLY [message #78010 is a reply to message #76779] Thu, 25 March 2010 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK, a little late here but I have been thinking about this. The 4bt is good for about 130hp in stock form and around 300 on the torque. They can be boosted to a reliable 160-170hp. Is that enough to move a GMC around comfortably? I think the mileage gains would be worth it in the long run and these are 300,000 mile engines. No tune ups per se and mechanical fuel injection that any truck stop will have parts for really adds to the reilability factor. Again, I would love to know how it does out on the road with a toad. Since the GMC uses a BOP pattern, did Manny have to make an adapter or is there one available?

Inquiring minds want to know.


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I think Manny is going to pump it up a little with a bigger turbo.
He's got to be careful, cause I guess the 425 transmission is only
good for around 500lb/ft of torque. With the diesel, a jump in 10 or
20 horsepower translates into a lot of torque, and with the rpms that
he is turning (different final drive ratio, 6-speed transmission
(switch-pitch), reversed Caspro gears), it's all about the torque. Of
course, this is just me guessing. The custom designed engine to
transmission adapter is a work of art. I really want to go for a drive
in this thing, and I think he could charge for a couple of laps around
the fairgrounds.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@juno.com> wrote:
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> OK, a little late here but I have been thinking about this.  The 4bt is good for about 130hp in stock form and around 300 on the torque.  They can be boosted to a reliable 160-170hp.  Is that enough to move a GMC around comfortably?  I think the mileage gains would be worth it in the long run and these are 300,000 mile engines.  No tune ups per se and mechanical fuel injection that any truck stop will have parts for really adds to the reilability factor.  Again, I would love to know how it does out on the road with a toad.  Since the GMC uses a BOP pattern, did Manny have to make an adapter or is there one available?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know.
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