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| Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76425] |
Fri, 12 March 2010 10:18  |
petemosss
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Anyone have their 2 cents worth to comment on gas tank sealers.
If you didn't do it last time the tanks were down, will you do it this time?
Pete
74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76451 is a reply to message #76444] |
Fri, 12 March 2010 12:43  |
John Boyer
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That price is now $400 per tank at the Rockford , IL Renu facility. May
still be worth it if you got lots of crud.
John Boyer
73 Glacier 23'
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From: <thomhole@aim.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior)
> http://www.gastankrenu.com/index.htm
> These are the folks I used to do my tanks. The onlyissueis that not all
> of the locations listed on the WEB site have thelarge ovens needed for our
> size tanks. In 2002, I used the now closed BattleCreek, MI location and
> was very pleased with the outcome!! Nice folks - $200 per tank with a
> lifetime warranty!!
> Our tanks are right at the UPS limit of 110 inches total for H + W+ D.
> They were 7in H + 57in W + 46in D. Weight was 46 lbseachwithout senders.
> It was the 57in number that is the challenge.
> Thom in beautiful Fuquay, NC
> '78 transmode custom
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pete <petemosss@comcast.net>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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> Subject: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior)
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> Anyone have their 2 cents worth to comment on gas tank sealers.
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> If you didn't do it last time the tanks were down, will you do it this
> time?
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> Pete
> 74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76456 is a reply to message #76451] |
Fri, 12 March 2010 14:07 |
zhagrieb
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Anyone used the do-it-yourself stuff?
Glenn Giere
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:43 AM, John Boyer <jboyer@mchsi.com> wrote:
> That price is now $400 per tank at the Rockford , IL Renu facility. May
> still be worth it if you got lots of crud.
>
> John Boyer
> 73 Glacier 23'
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <thomhole@aim.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior)
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> > http://www.gastankrenu.com/index.htm
> > These are the folks I used to do my tanks. The onlyissueis that not all
> > of the locations listed on the WEB site have thelarge ovens needed for
> our
> > size tanks. In 2002, I used the now closed BattleCreek, MI location and
> > was very pleased with the outcome!! Nice folks - $200 per tank with a
> > lifetime warranty!!
> > Our tanks are right at the UPS limit of 110 inches total for H + W+ D.
> > They were 7in H + 57in W + 46in D. Weight was 46 lbseachwithout senders.
> > It was the 57in number that is the challenge.
> > Thom in beautiful Fuquay, NC
> > '78 transmode custom
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pete <petemosss@comcast.net>
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Sent: Fri, Mar 12, 2010 11:18 am
> > Subject: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior)
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> > Anyone have their 2 cents worth to comment on gas tank sealers.
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> > If you didn't do it last time the tanks were down, will you do it this
> > time?
> > --
> > Pete
> > 74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76458 is a reply to message #76425] |
Fri, 12 March 2010 14:51 |
GeorgeRud
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If you don't have experience welding/cutting on gas tanks, it's best you leave that to someone else (they like to go boom!) who does this routinely. I had mine cleaned and sealed: not cheap, but may be worth avoiding further hassles if your fuel system is suspect.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76460 is a reply to message #76425] |
Fri, 12 March 2010 15:19 |
petemosss
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I'm leaning toward this POR 15 product. They have a pretty stout reputation.
http://www.por15.com/US-STANDARD-TANK-SEALER/productinfo/TSG/
Literature states that sealing is unnecessary unless leaking from pinholes. Just use their Marine-Clean to rid rust of tanks and keep tanks full of fuel. They claim superiority over 2 other competitors on the Alcohol issue. Ketone/PVC based sealer turns to mush with the gasohol and is still being sold. No name known.
Looking at @ $140 for both tanks for the 3 ingredients.
Pete
74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76501 is a reply to message #76456] |
Fri, 12 March 2010 23:01 |
mtnman111
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Glenn, I used the POR 15 kit about 5 years ago, used sheetmetal screws in the holes then the por inside abd out, no leaks yet. Good luck, Larry Conley 1974 Glacier, 26ft
--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Glenn Giere <glenngiere@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Glenn Giere <glenngiere@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior)
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 12:07 PM
> Anyone used the do-it-yourself
> stuff?
>
> Glenn Giere
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> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:43 AM, John Boyer <jboyer@mchsi.com>
> wrote:
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> > That price is now $400 per tank at the Rockford , IL
> Renu facility. May
> > still be worth it if you got lots of crud.
> >
> > John Boyer
> > 73 Glacier 23'
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <thomhole@aim.com>
> > To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing
> (interior)
> >
> >
> > > http://www.gastankrenu.com/index.htm
> > > These are the folks I used to do my tanks.
> The onlyissueis that not all
> > > of the locations listed on the WEB site have
> thelarge ovens needed for
> > our
> > > size tanks. In 2002, I used the now
> closed BattleCreek, MI location and
> > > was very pleased with the outcome!! Nice
> folks - $200 per tank with a
> > > lifetime warranty!!
> > > Our tanks are right at the UPS limit of 110
> inches total for H + W+ D.
> > > They were 7in H + 57in W + 46in D. Weight
> was 46 lbseachwithout senders.
> > > It was the 57in number that is the challenge.
> > > Thom in beautiful Fuquay, NC
> > > '78 transmode custom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pete <petemosss@comcast.net>
> > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > Sent: Fri, Mar 12, 2010 11:18 am
> > > Subject: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing
> (interior)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone have their 2 cents worth to comment on gas
> tank sealers.
> > >
> > > If you didn't do it last time the tanks were
> down, will you do it this
> > > time?
> > > --
> > > Pete
> > > 74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76502 is a reply to message #76501] |
Fri, 12 March 2010 23:14 |
zhagrieb
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Thanks Larry
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:01 PM, larry conley <conleylarry@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Glenn, I used the POR 15 kit about 5 years ago, used sheetmetal screws in
> the holes then the por inside abd out, no leaks yet. Good luck, Larry Conley
> 1974 Glacier, 26ft
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> --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Glenn Giere <glenngiere@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Glenn Giere <glenngiere@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior)
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 12:07 PM
> > Anyone used the do-it-yourself
> > stuff?
> >
> > Glenn Giere
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:43 AM, John Boyer <jboyer@mchsi.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That price is now $400 per tank at the Rockford , IL
> > Renu facility. May
> > > still be worth it if you got lots of crud.
> > >
> > > John Boyer
> > > 73 Glacier 23'
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <thomhole@aim.com>
> > > To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:38 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing
> > (interior)
> > >
> > >
> > > > http://www.gastankrenu.com/index.htm
> > > > These are the folks I used to do my tanks.
> > The onlyissueis that not all
> > > > of the locations listed on the WEB site have
> > thelarge ovens needed for
> > > our
> > > > size tanks. In 2002, I used the now
> > closed BattleCreek, MI location and
> > > > was very pleased with the outcome!! Nice
> > folks - $200 per tank with a
> > > > lifetime warranty!!
> > > > Our tanks are right at the UPS limit of 110
> > inches total for H + W+ D.
> > > > They were 7in H + 57in W + 46in D. Weight
> > was 46 lbseachwithout senders.
> > > > It was the 57in number that is the challenge.
> > > > Thom in beautiful Fuquay, NC
> > > > '78 transmode custom
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: pete <petemosss@comcast.net>
> > > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > > Sent: Fri, Mar 12, 2010 11:18 am
> > > > Subject: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing
> > (interior)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have their 2 cents worth to comment on gas
> > tank sealers.
> > > >
> > > > If you didn't do it last time the tanks were
> > down, will you do it this
> > > > time?
> > > > --
> > > > Pete
> > > > 74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76506 is a reply to message #76460] |
Sat, 13 March 2010 00:40 |
Ken Burton
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I have never used their tank kit, but I sure can endorse POR-15 for other items. I just painted a battery box on my Blazer with the stuff 2 weeks ago. I also used it on the floor below my house batteries a couple of years ago. That stuff is like stone after it dries.
Highly recommended. If you use it on something that gets exposed to the sun, top coat it with regular paint.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76509 is a reply to message #76457] |
Sat, 13 March 2010 03:02 |
jw mills
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Welding on gas tanks is usually a bad idea. Here is an option to
consider:
<http://www.por15.com/SPECIAL-Sealer-Metal-Ready/productinfo/S7Q/>
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Jim Mills
Greeley, CO
1973 CanyonLands 260 TZE-063V100731(under renovation)
1973 Glacier 230 TZE-033V101993
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 12:12 -0800, Terry Skinner wrote:
> After all the trouble I had on the last trip I have been looking into
> what others have done, such as restorers of motorcycles. The one
> method I am leaning toward is to separate the two halves of the tank
> at the weld. Clean and blast the inside with walnut shells, paint the
> inside, and weld back together. For sure I have one bad tank that I
> can experiment on...............Terry
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:18 AM, pete <petemosss@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Anyone have their 2 cents worth to comment on gas tank sealers.
> >
> > If you didn't do it last time the tanks were down, will you do it this time?
> > --
> > Pete
> > 74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76511 is a reply to message #76451] |
Sat, 13 March 2010 03:40 |
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| John Boyer wrote on Fri, 12 March 2010 10:43 |
That price is now $400 per tank at the Rockford , IL Renu facility. May still be worth it if you got lots of crud. ...
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At $400 to renew ONE tank... Just wondering, how much do brand new tanks cost? I do not see them listed on any web sites but I know someone bought a pair a few years ago. (Rick D. ?)
On a side note, years ago someone was talking about a slightly larger tank that fit in the same space. If buying new tanks....
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76512 is a reply to message #76511] |
Sat, 13 March 2010 05:48 |
klassic kampers
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in the 1970s and 80s I used Kreem on motorcycle tanks......on anything with 4 wheels and above I use POR-15......the stuff is super tough.......while doing a pair of GMC tanks I spilled some por-15 on the shop floor, forgot about it and after drying, I still cannot scrape the por-15 up after 3 years........I also coat the fuel filler tubes with por-15 on gmcs when doing tanks......
as for cleaning here locally we have the tanks media blasted with either soda or walnut shells or there are a couple of shops that will dip your tanks in a cleaning solution...............
if your tanks are rustd out, there should be plenty of used tanks available ..........
Mike Stewart
1973 GMC 26' Canyonlands /
1973 B.S.A. B50 street tracker-----
Greer,S.C/Ellijay,Ga
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76528 is a reply to message #76509] |
Sat, 13 March 2010 09:24 |
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Mills,
Never weld on a gas tank. Many years ago there was a terrible explosion at
the Chevy shop in Norman, OK., caused by a mechanic welding on a gas tank on
a car. The welder was killed. He was supposed to run water into the tank
for an hour before the explosion, but it did not work; he still was killed.
While restoring a Honda motorcycle, before painting the gas tank, I ran a
hose from the exhaust pipe of my car, put the end into the mc tank, ran the
car engine for 30 minutes or so, then passed a flame from a torch over the
tank opening. There was a little rumbling, but no explosion. I used roofing
nails in the tank instead of walnut shells, shook it around for most of a
day, cleaned it out good.
J. L. Vanlandingham
Norman, OK.
----- Original Message -----
From: "mills" <mills@bmi.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior)
> Welding on gas tanks is usually a bad idea. Here is an option to
> consider:
>
> <http://www.por15.com/SPECIAL-Sealer-Metal-Ready/productinfo/S7Q/>
>
> --
> Jim Mills
> Greeley, CO
> 1973 CanyonLands 260 TZE-063V100731(under renovation)
> 1973 Glacier 230 TZE-033V101993
>
>
> On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 12:12 -0800, Terry Skinner wrote:
>> After all the trouble I had on the last trip I have been looking into
>> what others have done, such as restorers of motorcycles. The one
>> method I am leaning toward is to separate the two halves of the tank
>> at the weld. Clean and blast the inside with walnut shells, paint the
>> inside, and weld back together. For sure I have one bad tank that I
>> can experiment on...............Terry
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:18 AM, pete <petemosss@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Anyone have their 2 cents worth to comment on gas tank sealers.
>> >
>> > If you didn't do it last time the tanks were down, will you do it this
>> > time?
>> > --
>> > Pete
>> > 74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > GMCnet mailing list
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>> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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| Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior) [message #76529 is a reply to message #76513] |
Sat, 13 March 2010 10:01 |
Dave Mumert
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Hi All
Darren built a 60 gallon aluminum tank with a side fill. He said he could
hold the pump nozzle fully open until it clicked off and not spill a drop of
gas. He had to remove a cross member so the used the tank and the internal
baffle as a replacement cross member.
Here is a photo of the new filler on the side. I think it came from a Dodge
van.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=21103&title=picture-01
5&cat=4773
http://goo.gl/nPIs
Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-
> bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Ferguson
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 4:50 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas Tank Coating/ Sealing (interior)
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> Darren Paget made one large tank for his GMC and IIRC, the center frame
brace
> was an integral part of the tank. Nice job, extra capacity plus side
fill. No more
> hassles.
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 2:40 AM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
> On a side note, years ago someone was talking about a slightly larger
tank that
> fit in the same space. If buying new tanks....
> --
> Steve Ferguson
> '76 EII
> Sierra Vista, AZ
> Urethane bushing source
> www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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