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Tue, 09 March 2010 18:22  |
jayrabe
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There are times when I hesitate to read GMCnet posts. Seems like I can't sit down and read new posts without adding things that cost money to my want list. Most recently I've added a combiner and a water/fuel separator to the list. But it's an addiction/cult that I can't seem to pull myself away from.
In any case, I've only had this coach since December, and only driven it about 350 miles. I didn't like the handling or the look of the front end, so I bought a set of front wheel spacers, and now I need to install them. Have never jacked it up, don't have a jack, but I do have a bunch of questions:
What kind of jack: From previous posts I liked the looks of this 4-ton bottle jack, but I can't find one locally, and adding $20 shipping to a $30 jack is a bit obnoxious. Suggestions? Do I really need one that is as low profile as this one?
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200318933_200318933
Where to put the jack: I understand from previous threads it's important to jack up both sides evenly to avoid cracking the windshield, but I crawled under and couldn't see any obvious and safe-looking place to put the jacks. Also couldn't find anything in the manual. Any pictures on the net on exactly where to put the jacks?
I'm assuming that after jacking up with the hydraulic jack, I'll want to put jack stands under and let the coach back down onto the stands. Right? So same question, where to I put the stands?
Thanks from
J "auto-mechanically challenged newbie" Rabe
76 Palm Beach
Portland, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] jacks [message #76155 is a reply to message #76149] |
Tue, 09 March 2010 18:51  |
Gary Cottingame
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Jay
I'll bet if you asked, you might find someone that's going to MOntgomery next month that would pick up a jack for you at Northern Tools, at the north Houston store.
Gary
73 26 CL
TZE21
Denison, Tx
--- On Tue, 3/9/10, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [GMCnet] jacks
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 6:22 PM
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> There are times when I hesitate to read GMCnet posts. Seems
> like I can't sit down and read new posts without adding
> things that cost money to my want list. Most recently I've
> added a combiner and a water/fuel separator to the list. But
> it's an addiction/cult that I can't seem to pull myself away
> from.
>
> In any case, I've only had this coach since December, and
> only driven it about 350 miles. I didn't like the handling
> or the look of the front end, so I bought a set of front
> wheel spacers, and now I need to install them. Have never
> jacked it up, don't have a jack, but I do have a bunch of
> questions:
>
> What kind of jack: From previous posts I liked the looks of
> this 4-ton bottle jack, but I can't find one locally, and
> adding $20 shipping to a $30 jack is a bit obnoxious.
> Suggestions? Do I really need one that is as low profile as
> this one?
>
> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200318933_200318933
>
> Where to put the jack: I understand from previous threads
> it's important to jack up both sides evenly to avoid
> cracking the windshield, but I crawled under and couldn't
> see any obvious and safe-looking place to put the jacks.
> Also couldn't find anything in the manual. Any pictures on
> the net on exactly where to put the jacks?
>
> I'm assuming that after jacking up with the hydraulic jack,
> I'll want to put jack stands under and let the coach back
> down onto the stands. Right? So same question, where to I
> put the stands?
>
> Thanks from
>
> J "auto-mechanically challenged newbie" Rabe
> 76 Palm Beach
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
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| Re: jacks [message #76159 is a reply to message #76149] |
Tue, 09 March 2010 19:02 |
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Matt Colie
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Jay,
You may get many answers to this, but I will make some recommendations.
Go to the Harbor Freight (also known as the Chinese Tool store) and get a the 3 ton floor jack 34271. Probably about 100$ there. Get the 20% off coupon from the paper or magazine and get it for 80$. Also shop around and get a pair of 3 ton jack stands. Get the ratchet type.
This kit will do the front or either side with equal proficiency (I was going to say ease, but it isn't that good a jack. It is safe, but it is not easy to use.)
Jack the front in the middle of the big cross-member - this won't twist the coach - and put the jackstands under the outer ends of the same piece. Set down on the stands gently. Then throw your body at the side of the coach. If you can knock if off the jackstands, it was not safe to work under.
This jack will also fit under a bogie bracket. If you need to work on a rear something, pick the load up there and when it starts to lift - let the air off that side before you blow a shock (BTDT) - Then lift it to where you want it and put the stands on the frame rails fore and aft of the wheels and set back down gently.
Leave the floor jack in place and carrying just a little load while you are working. That's a belt and suspenders approach. Yes, I know that I am paranoid, but I have found it serves me well.
Have fun under there.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: jacks [message #76165 is a reply to message #76160] |
Tue, 09 March 2010 19:37 |
Don A
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J One advantage of the 4 ton bottle jack is it's smaller size for packing in the coach vs a much larger floor jack. And second, the dual stage vs a taller bottle jack is to be able to get it under the coach when it drops down should you have a flat tire. With all the GMCs on Oregon, there must be a good recommendations somewhere close.
Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
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| Re: [GMCnet] jacks [message #76166 is a reply to message #76149] |
Tue, 09 March 2010 19:37 |
amansfield1104
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The jack you show in address below would work fine. Be careful where you put the jack and jack stands. You really need jack stands since you do not want to work under a hydraulic jack. The frame is doubled in some areas and that is where you want to jack. You need tom be careful not to twist the RV to much. It's frame is not very stiff and the RV structure will warp and could break a window if not careful. I also found that you do not want to jack from the back. I did that once and my door was hard to open. I make sure I jack near the rear wheels. I store mine on Jack stands when not in use.
Be careful if you purchase the jack shown in the attachment. It has a small head and applies a high load and can slip off easily. The lower profile of the jack will come in handy. Sometimes I have to use one jack to get clearance for another. My jack's are over kill since they are a 6 (has a small head) and 20 ton jacks that were bought to work on the house. My heavy duty car jacks have been ruined jacking the RV.
I have jacked on single sections of the frame but used hard wood to spread the load. The small head on my 6 ton has split a soft wood in half so be very care full. In the front I jack under the cross member to raise it up evenly but it surface is not an ideal shape and the jack could easily slip off. That is how I ruin my heavy duty car jack. I would not slip off.
In the back I try not to apply to much twist. I jack from both sides.
Art
76 EL
On Mar 9, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Jay Rabe wrote:
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> There are times when I hesitate to read GMCnet posts. Seems like I can't sit down and read new posts without adding things that cost money to my want list. Most recently I've added a combiner and a water/fuel separator to the list. But it's an addiction/cult that I can't seem to pull myself away from.
>
> In any case, I've only had this coach since December, and only driven it about 350 miles. I didn't like the handling or the look of the front end, so I bought a set of front wheel spacers, and now I need to install them. Have never jacked it up, don't have a jack, but I do have a bunch of questions:
>
> What kind of jack: From previous posts I liked the looks of this 4-ton bottle jack, but I can't find one locally, and adding $20 shipping to a $30 jack is a bit obnoxious. Suggestions? Do I really need one that is as low profile as this one?
>
> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200318933_200318933
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> Where to put the jack: I understand from previous threads it's important to jack up both sides evenly to avoid cracking the windshield, but I crawled under and couldn't see any obvious and safe-looking place to put the jacks. Also couldn't find anything in the manual. Any pictures on the net on exactly where to put the jacks?
>
> I'm assuming that after jacking up with the hydraulic jack, I'll want to put jack stands under and let the coach back down onto the stands. Right? So same question, where to I put the stands?
>
> Thanks from
>
> J "auto-mechanically challenged newbie" Rabe
> 76 Palm Beach
> Portland, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] jacks [message #76174 is a reply to message #76166] |
Tue, 09 March 2010 20:04 |
Carl S.
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Steve F. has some neat bottle jack/jackstand combo units. I believe he got them at Checker (now O'Rilley).
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=26299&title=p1020802&cat=3146>
I use a 3-ton floor jack in the center of the front crossmember (NOT under the radiator) and then place jackstands under the same crossmember, a few inches in from the ends where the lower control arms mount.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] jacks [message #76177 is a reply to message #76149] |
Tue, 09 March 2010 20:06 |
zhagrieb
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Hi Jay,
Harbor Freight and Lowes have hydraulic jacks. Both are here in Portland.
I jack the front by placing my jack under the middle of the front
crossmember. Once in the air I place wooden blocking under each side rail
just behind the front suspension as I don't trust jack stands. With the
blocking in place I release the jack so the total weight is on the blocks.
Should you prefer stands, Harbor Freight has them too.
Glenn Giere
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> There are times when I hesitate to read GMCnet posts. Seems like I can't
> sit down and read new posts without adding things that cost money to my want
> list. Most recently I've added a combiner and a water/fuel separator to the
> list. But it's an addiction/cult that I can't seem to pull myself away from.
>
> In any case, I've only had this coach since December, and only driven it
> about 350 miles. I didn't like the handling or the look of the front end, so
> I bought a set of front wheel spacers, and now I need to install them. Have
> never jacked it up, don't have a jack, but I do have a bunch of questions:
>
> What kind of jack: From previous posts I liked the looks of this 4-ton
> bottle jack, but I can't find one locally, and adding $20 shipping to a $30
> jack is a bit obnoxious. Suggestions? Do I really need one that is as low
> profile as this one?
>
> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200318933_200318933
>
> Where to put the jack: I understand from previous threads it's important to
> jack up both sides evenly to avoid cracking the windshield, but I crawled
> under and couldn't see any obvious and safe-looking place to put the jacks.
> Also couldn't find anything in the manual. Any pictures on the net on
> exactly where to put the jacks?
>
> I'm assuming that after jacking up with the hydraulic jack, I'll want to
> put jack stands under and let the coach back down onto the stands. Right? So
> same question, where to I put the stands?
>
> Thanks from
>
> J "auto-mechanically challenged newbie" Rabe
> 76 Palm Beach
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
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'73 "Moby the Motorhome" 26'
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| Re: [GMCnet] jacks [message #76204 is a reply to message #76177] |
Tue, 09 March 2010 23:16 |
jimk
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If you need a jack adapter to keep in your coach, you'll want to look
a our unit as it works on th front and rear. Most work on rear only.
Go to our web site.
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Glenn Giere <glenngiere@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jay,
> Harbor Freight and Lowes have hydraulic jacks. Â Both are here in Portland.
> I jack the front by placing my jack under the middle of the front
> crossmember. Â Once in the air I place wooden blocking under each side rail
> just behind the front suspension as I don't trust jack stands. Â With the
> blocking in place I release the jack so the total weight is on the blocks.
> Should you prefer stands, Harbor Freight has them too.
>
> Glenn Giere
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> There are times when I hesitate to read GMCnet posts. Seems like I can't
>> sit down and read new posts without adding things that cost money to my want
>> list. Most recently I've added a combiner and a water/fuel separator to the
>> list. But it's an addiction/cult that I can't seem to pull myself away from.
>>
>> In any case, I've only had this coach since December, and only driven it
>> about 350 miles. I didn't like the handling or the look of the front end, so
>> I bought a set of front wheel spacers, and now I need to install them. Have
>> never jacked it up, don't have a jack, but I do have a bunch of questions:
>>
>> What kind of jack: From previous posts I liked the looks of this 4-ton
>> bottle jack, but I can't find one locally, and adding $20 shipping to a $30
>> jack is a bit obnoxious. Suggestions? Do I really need one that is as low
>> profile as this one?
>>
>> Â Â http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200318933_200318933
>>
>> Where to put the jack: I understand from previous threads it's important to
>> jack up both sides evenly to avoid cracking the windshield, but I crawled
>> under and couldn't see any obvious and safe-looking place to put the jacks.
>> Also couldn't find anything in the manual. Any pictures on the net on
>> exactly where to put the jacks?
>>
>> I'm assuming that after jacking up with the hydraulic jack, I'll want to
>> put jack stands under and let the coach back down onto the stands. Right? So
>> same question, where to I put the stands?
>>
>> Thanks from
>>
>> J "auto-mechanically challenged newbie" Rabe
>> 76 Palm Beach
>> Portland, OR
>>
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] jacks [message #76209 is a reply to message #76204] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 01:33 |
van.one
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Jim,
Thanks for your note on jacks. I hope to try it out tomorrow.
FYI - I am a 89 year old WWII disabled vet who is about to buy his first GMC
motorhome. It is a "cream puff", very low mileage, has been parked out in
the country for several years. The motor and tranny are very good, but the
rear air bags are down. I made him a cash offer, as is where is, and he
took it.
My question: How do I get it home, about 30 miles, with the rear air bags
down?
NO. I wasn't a desk jockey in the Marines, I was a survivor of "The Long
Patrol". a ,member of Col. Carlson's Marine Raiders (2E). If I get this GMC
to where it will take me to the next meeting I will tell you some of the
things I learned in the Raiders, such as 10 ways to kill an enemy quietly
and quickly in hand-to-hand combat.
No doubt you have heard that if you can do it, it ain't bragging.
Jesse Vanlandingham
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From: "Jim Kanomata" <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] jacks
> If you need a jack adapter to keep in your coach, you'll want to look
> a our unit as it works on th front and rear. Most work on rear only.
> Go to our web site.
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Glenn Giere <glenngiere@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Jay,
>> Harbor Freight and Lowes have hydraulic jacks. Both are here in Portland.
>> I jack the front by placing my jack under the middle of the front
>> crossmember. Once in the air I place wooden blocking under each side rail
>> just behind the front suspension as I don't trust jack stands. With the
>> blocking in place I release the jack so the total weight is on the
>> blocks.
>> Should you prefer stands, Harbor Freight has them too.
>>
>> Glenn Giere
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There are times when I hesitate to read GMCnet posts. Seems like I can't
>>> sit down and read new posts without adding things that cost money to my
>>> want
>>> list. Most recently I've added a combiner and a water/fuel separator to
>>> the
>>> list. But it's an addiction/cult that I can't seem to pull myself away
>>> from.
>>>
>>> In any case, I've only had this coach since December, and only driven it
>>> about 350 miles. I didn't like the handling or the look of the front
>>> end, so
>>> I bought a set of front wheel spacers, and now I need to install them.
>>> Have
>>> never jacked it up, don't have a jack, but I do have a bunch of
>>> questions:
>>>
>>> What kind of jack: From previous posts I liked the looks of this 4-ton
>>> bottle jack, but I can't find one locally, and adding $20 shipping to a
>>> $30
>>> jack is a bit obnoxious. Suggestions? Do I really need one that is as
>>> low
>>> profile as this one?
>>>
>>> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200318933_200318933
>>>
>>> Where to put the jack: I understand from previous threads it's important
>>> to
>>> jack up both sides evenly to avoid cracking the windshield, but I
>>> crawled
>>> under and couldn't see any obvious and safe-looking place to put the
>>> jacks.
>>> Also couldn't find anything in the manual. Any pictures on the net on
>>> exactly where to put the jacks?
>>>
>>> I'm assuming that after jacking up with the hydraulic jack, I'll want to
>>> put jack stands under and let the coach back down onto the stands.
>>> Right? So
>>> same question, where to I put the stands?
>>>
>>> Thanks from
>>>
>>> J "auto-mechanically challenged newbie" Rabe
>>> 76 Palm Beach
>>> Portland, OR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] jacks [message #76218 is a reply to message #76209] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 05:42 |
Ken Burton
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| van.one wrote on Wed, 10 March 2010 01:33 |
Jim,
My question: How do I get it home, about 30 miles, with the rear air bags
down?
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Why wont the coach pump the air bags back up when you start the engine?
Does the air compresor run when you start the engine?
Will the air bags hold air?
If the bags will hold air but wont pump up using the on board coach compressor(s), go the the hardware store and buy two 1/4" schrader valves. At Ace hardware they are less than $3.00 each and are located near the brass fittings. Unscrew the fitting in the air bags that attaches the air hoses and replace them with the schraders you bought. Now add air with a 12 volt tire compressor or an portable air tank. One of those cheap 12 volt tire inflator compressors will work. It just might take a while. You might also want to take a tire gauge with you and set the air pressure somewhere around 80 to 90 PSI. If the bags hold air you are ready to roll assuming the tires ar also inlfated properly. I .
Notes:
1. With the bags completely deflated, and the coach has T skirts installed you might need to remove the the skirts to get to the air bag fittings.
2. I took a 10 gallon air tank inflated to 125 PSI out on a Black List call to help a GMCer. The 10 gallon tank was not quite able to fully inflate a stranded GMCer's air bag to the desired height. If you do this with an air tank you will probably have to make several trips to refill the air tank.
3. If you fill this with a 12 volt compressor be prepared to spend 20 minutes per side.
Here is the valve I'm talking about in 1/8" size:
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/%2853p1vpbo0yzvtljk0mpyvq55%29/productDetails.aspx?SKU=40899
Picture of the Ace 1/4 " valve:
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/%2853p1vpbo0yzvtljk0mpyvq55%29/ProductDetails.aspx?SKU=45194&
Ken B.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] jacks [message #76234 is a reply to message #76218] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 09:26 |
tphipps
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A good front jacking position is the center of the frame member, under the engine. By simple inspection, you will see two holes in the member, they allow for access to the front engine mount bolts. This is pretty much the center of the coach. Put the jack stand at the outer ends, jack up a little with the centered jack, move the jacks stand up to the frame member and do it again, until you are where you want the height of the coach to be. Slide the jack stands tight against the frame, then lower the center jack. You do not want the hydraulic jack holding up the coach. If it fails, the coach will fall very fast and could hurt you. Safety first.
By the way, the little frame pieces, mounted at a 45 degree angle on the front frame corners will not lift or support the coach. Do not block under them. They appear to be designed to stabilize the front frame geometry.
Tom Phipps,
75 GMC Ex-Avion
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: jacks [message #76246 is a reply to message #76149] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 10:36 |
bryant374
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Where to put the jack: I understand from previous threads it's important to jack up both sides evenly to avoid cracking the windshield, but I crawled under and couldn't see any obvious and safe-looking place to put the jacks. Also couldn't find anything in the manual. Any pictures on the net on exactly where to put the jacks?
I'm assuming that after jacking up with the hydraulic jack, I'll want to put jack stands under and let the coach back down onto the stands. Right? So same question, where to I put the stands?
Thanks from
J "auto-mechanically challenged newbie" Rabe
76 Palm Beach
Portland, OR
Jay,
A couple of things that I believe are helpful:
1. Carry a couple of short pieces of 2x8 planks to drive the tire on to get sufficient room to put the jack in place (especially if you have a flat)
2. I believe it is especially important to release the jack slowly, not suddenly, that is when windshields get cracked.
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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USAussie
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Steve,
Now that's one presentation I DEFINETLY would like to attend, as an
observer, not a participant! ;-)
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Ferguson
Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 2:51 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] jacks
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:33 AM, J. Leon Van landingham <van.one@cox.net>
wrote:
If I get this GMC > to where it will take me to the next meeting I will
tell you some of the
> things I learned in the Raiders, such as 10 ways to kill an enemy
> quietly and quickly in hand-to-hand combat.
Sir,
I laud you for your service to this country. My father was a Guadalcanal
veteran. I am a veteran of Viet Nam, and the Gulf war. If you do hold a
seminar such as the one described above, please have a hands-on
demonstration preceeded by a .pps presentation and handouts.
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Steve Ferguson
'76 EII
Sierra Vista, AZ
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] jacks [message #76635 is a reply to message #76177] |
Sun, 14 March 2010 16:29 |
jayrabe
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Hi Glenn,
I picked up a floor jack and a bottle jack and jack stands at Harbor Freight this week. A dangerous store to go into with a credit card. Should have time in the next week to try them out, after the weather clears a bit.
Thanks for the tips!
J
> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:06:39 -0800
> From: glenngiere@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] jacks
>
> Hi Jay,
> Harbor Freight and Lowes have hydraulic jacks. Both are here in Portland.
> I jack the front by placing my jack under the middle of the front
> crossmember. Once in the air I place wooden blocking under each side rail
> just behind the front suspension as I don't trust jack stands. With the
> blocking in place I release the jack so the total weight is on the blocks.
> Should you prefer stands, Harbor Freight has them too.
>
> Glenn Giere
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > There are times when I hesitate to read GMCnet posts. Seems like I can't
> > sit down and read new posts without adding things that cost money to my want
> > list. Most recently I've added a combiner and a water/fuel separator to the
> > list. But it's an addiction/cult that I can't seem to pull myself away from.
> >
> > In any case, I've only had this coach since December, and only driven it
> > about 350 miles. I didn't like the handling or the look of the front end, so
> > I bought a set of front wheel spacers, and now I need to install them. Have
> > never jacked it up, don't have a jack, but I do have a bunch of questions:
> >
> > What kind of jack: From previous posts I liked the looks of this 4-ton
> > bottle jack, but I can't find one locally, and adding $20 shipping to a $30
> > jack is a bit obnoxious. Suggestions? Do I really need one that is as low
> > profile as this one?
> >
> > http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200318933_200318933
> >
> > Where to put the jack: I understand from previous threads it's important to
> > jack up both sides evenly to avoid cracking the windshield, but I crawled
> > under and couldn't see any obvious and safe-looking place to put the jacks.
> > Also couldn't find anything in the manual. Any pictures on the net on
> > exactly where to put the jacks?
> >
> > I'm assuming that after jacking up with the hydraulic jack, I'll want to
> > put jack stands under and let the coach back down onto the stands. Right? So
> > same question, where to I put the stands?
> >
> > Thanks from
> >
> > J "auto-mechanically challenged newbie" Rabe
> > 76 Palm Beach
> > Portland, OR
> >
> >
> >
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| Re: [GMCnet] jacks [message #76647 is a reply to message #76635] |
Sun, 14 March 2010 18:48 |
zhagrieb
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If I can aver give a hand don't hesitate. (503) 283-9752. Glenn
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Glenn,
>
> I picked up a floor jack and a bottle jack and jack stands at Harbor
> Freight this week. A dangerous store to go into with a credit card. Should
> have time in the next week to try them out, after the weather clears a bit.
>
> Thanks for the tips!
>
> J
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:06:39 -0800
> > From: glenngiere@gmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] jacks
> >
> > Hi Jay,
> > Harbor Freight and Lowes have hydraulic jacks. Both are here in
> Portland.
> > I jack the front by placing my jack under the middle of the front
> > crossmember. Once in the air I place wooden blocking under each side
> rail
> > just behind the front suspension as I don't trust jack stands. With the
> > blocking in place I release the jack so the total weight is on the
> blocks.
> > Should you prefer stands, Harbor Freight has them too.
> >
> > Glenn Giere
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > There are times when I hesitate to read GMCnet posts. Seems like I
> can't
> > > sit down and read new posts without adding things that cost money to my
> want
> > > list. Most recently I've added a combiner and a water/fuel separator to
> the
> > > list. But it's an addiction/cult that I can't seem to pull myself away
> from.
> > >
> > > In any case, I've only had this coach since December, and only driven
> it
> > > about 350 miles. I didn't like the handling or the look of the front
> end, so
> > > I bought a set of front wheel spacers, and now I need to install them.
> Have
> > > never jacked it up, don't have a jack, but I do have a bunch of
> questions:
> > >
> > > What kind of jack: From previous posts I liked the looks of this 4-ton
> > > bottle jack, but I can't find one locally, and adding $20 shipping to a
> $30
> > > jack is a bit obnoxious. Suggestions? Do I really need one that is as
> low
> > > profile as this one?
> > >
> > > http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200318933_200318933
> > >
> > > Where to put the jack: I understand from previous threads it's
> important to
> > > jack up both sides evenly to avoid cracking the windshield, but I
> crawled
> > > under and couldn't see any obvious and safe-looking place to put the
> jacks.
> > > Also couldn't find anything in the manual. Any pictures on the net on
> > > exactly where to put the jacks?
> > >
> > > I'm assuming that after jacking up with the hydraulic jack, I'll want
> to
> > > put jack stands under and let the coach back down onto the stands.
> Right? So
> > > same question, where to I put the stands?
> > >
> > > Thanks from
> > >
> > > J "auto-mechanically challenged newbie" Rabe
> > > 76 Palm Beach
> > > Portland, OR
> > >
> > >
> > >
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| Re: [GMCnet] jacks [message #76659 is a reply to message #76635] |
Sun, 14 March 2010 20:58 |
Denis Leconte
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Harbor Freight is SO dangerous! When I walk in there and get that whiff of oiled metal, and I suddenly understand what it must feel like for my wife to walk into a mall.
Anyway... I have two floor jacks from Harbor Freight, a 3 ton and 2 1/4 ton. They work very well - together. I can tell you from experience that the single 3 ton jack is not enough to lift the front of the motorhome with the engine installed.
I also lift under the front crossmember, and then put cribbing under the side rails, right behind the front wheels, and then let the jacks down to put the whole weight on the cribbing. Then I raise the jacks again just to the point where they start taking some weight. It's my belt and suspenders approach - this is California. Earthquakes happen.
I also did the under-frame-rail cribbing thing when I raised my motorhome to get the engine underneath. The cribbing was made of two 26"x26" pillars of alternating brick and wood, and grew to a little less than 3 feet (I also had a third pillar growing under the front crossmember, for the jacks). This gave me the needed 36" under the front crossmember. A lot of work, but it was sturdy.
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1977 Eleganza II - 455 engine - Los Angeles, CA
--- On Sun, 3/14/10, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] jacks
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 2:29 PM
>
> Hi Glenn,
>
> I picked up a floor jack and a bottle jack and jack stands
> at Harbor Freight this week. A dangerous store to go into
> with a credit card. Should have time in the next week to try
> them out, after the weather clears a bit.
>
> Thanks for the tips!
>
> J
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| Re: [GMCnet] jacks [message #76974 is a reply to message #76659] |
Wed, 17 March 2010 17:26 |
jayrabe
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Denis,
Now I'm really concerned and confused. Last weekend I bought a 3-ton floor jack with the intention of using it to lift the front of my PB to install the front wheel hub spacers. Work and rain have prevented me from trying it yet, though today it's finally clear and I'm off work so I'm planning on giving it a try tomorrow.
Don't understand why a 3-ton = 6000# capacity floor jack would be insufficient to lift a front end that weighed about 3700# on the truck scale. Please explain.
Agree completely about the danger of walking into HFreight!
J "perpetually confused" Rabe
76 Palm Beach
Portland, OR
> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:58:52 -0700
> From: denis_leconte@yahoo.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] jacks
>
> Harbor Freight is SO dangerous! When I walk in there and get that whiff of oiled metal, and I suddenly understand what it must feel like for my wife to walk into a mall.
>
> Anyway... I have two floor jacks from Harbor Freight, a 3 ton and 2 1/4 ton. They work very well - together. I can tell you from experience that the single 3 ton jack is not enough to lift the front of the motorhome with the engine installed.
>
> I also lift under the front crossmember, and then put cribbing under the side rails, right behind the front wheels, and then let the jacks down to put the whole weight on the cribbing. Then I raise the jacks again just to the point where they start taking some weight. It's my belt and suspenders approach - this is California. Earthquakes happen.
>
> I also did the under-frame-rail cribbing thing when I raised my motorhome to get the engine underneath. The cribbing was made of two 26"x26" pillars of alternating brick and wood, and grew to a little less than 3 feet (I also had a third pillar growing under the front crossmember, for the jacks). This gave me the needed 36" under the front crossmember. A lot of work, but it was sturdy.
>
>
> --
> Denis Leconte - denis_leconte@yahoo.com
> 1977 Eleganza II - 455 engine - Los Angeles, CA
>
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