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| Re: [GMCnet] interior cracks [message #75757] |
Fri, 05 March 2010 20:56  |
rallymaster
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Jay, this is a clip from Richard Archer (usually referred to as just
"Arch") one of our old-timers..
There are a number of dyes out there. I have used SEM and Plasti Coat.
Both worked well. Krylon now has one out called Fussion I think. It is
dye for plastic. You can dye seats and rugs with the stuff. It does not
sit on the surface like paint. It is absorbed into the plastic. I painted
my front endcap with it. Then I did something real dumb. I tossed it into
the loft of the barn for almost a year. I left the new colored surface
up. By the time I was ready to install it---well it was covered in bird
do do. What a mess! I got a bucket of water, some dish soap and a scrub
brush and went to work. I thought for sure I would have to spray it
again. I could not believe it---it cleaned right up. No stains or
anything. That's when I decided I loved the stuff.
One word of advice. It does not cover well. Don't try to spray one coat
to cover your mess.
It is very thin and will run. Use several light mist coats. Just what I
found out.
Take Care
Arch
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I've used the SEM, and it does, indeed, work well, and just as Arch said.
And use lots of plastic drop cloth for overspray protection, because it
comes out in a really fine mist that goes everywhere. I did my front and
rear inside endcaps, and they look good. Not really WHITE white, but
just a little off-white. Big improvement.
Ronc
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:15:27 +0000 Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> writes:
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> OTOH, the yellowing
> is another issue, and if there were something I could use to return
> the original white color, that might be worth the effort.
>
> Thanks
>
> J
>
>
Ron & Linda Clark
1978 Eleganza II
North Plains, ORYGUN
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| Re: [GMCnet] interior cracks [message #75797 is a reply to message #75757] |
Sat, 06 March 2010 07:03  |
John Wright
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Ron,
As for the cracks it is common in the material because of age and probably
how the piece you took down was attached. You could drill a small hole at
the end of the crack to prevent the crack from moving on. As for color the
only thing that will work is a good spay paint. The new Fusion paint from
Krylon will work very well. It real trick is clean the plastic to remove
any old oils and dirt to allow the paint to bond. I suggest using acetone
first then following with denatured alcohol. I would avoid using any
materials such as stain blocking primer. When I did the rear cap back in
2001 I used regular Krylon antique white and it has provided excellent
service bonded without issues. The SEM is also very good but can be hard to
find and you might need your own spray equipment if it cannot be found in a
spray version.
J.R. Wright
TZE Zone Restorations
On Location at Florida Space Coast
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:56 PM, rallymaster <rallymaster@juno.com> wrote:
> Jay, this is a clip from Richard Archer (usually referred to as just
> "Arch") one of our old-timers..
> There are a number of dyes out there. I have used SEM and Plasti Coat.
> Both worked well. Krylon now has one out called Fussion I think. It is
> dye for plastic. You can dye seats and rugs with the stuff. It does not
> sit on the surface like paint. It is absorbed into the plastic. I painted
> my front endcap with it. Then I did something real dumb. I tossed it into
> the loft of the barn for almost a year. I left the new colored surface
> up. By the time I was ready to install it---well it was covered in bird
> do do. What a mess! I got a bucket of water, some dish soap and a scrub
> brush and went to work. I thought for sure I would have to spray it
> again. I could not believe it---it cleaned right up. No stains or
> anything. That's when I decided I loved the stuff.
> One word of advice. It does not cover well. Don't try to spray one coat
> to cover your mess.
> It is very thin and will run. Use several light mist coats. Just what I
> found out.
> Take Care
> Arch
> ------------------------
> I've used the SEM, and it does, indeed, work well, and just as Arch said.
> And use lots of plastic drop cloth for overspray protection, because it
> comes out in a really fine mist that goes everywhere. I did my front and
> rear inside endcaps, and they look good. Not really WHITE white, but
> just a little off-white. Big improvement.
> Ronc
> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:15:27 +0000 Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> writes:
> >
> > OTOH, the yellowing
> > is another issue, and if there were something I could use to return
> > the original white color, that might be worth the effort.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > J
> >
> >
> Ron & Linda Clark
> 1978 Eleganza II
> North Plains, ORYGUN
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| Re: [GMCnet] interior cracks [message #75798 is a reply to message #75797] |
Sat, 06 March 2010 14:30 |
Kingsley Coach
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Location: Nova Scotia Canada
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A bit off topic, or maybe not...Has anyone spoken to Arch lately?
Mike in NS
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:03 AM, John Wright <powwerjon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ron,
> As for the cracks it is common in the material because of age and probably
> how the piece you took down was attached. You could drill a small hole at
> the end of the crack to prevent the crack from moving on. As for color the
> only thing that will work is a good spay paint. The new Fusion paint from
> Krylon will work very well. It real trick is clean the plastic to remove
> any old oils and dirt to allow the paint to bond. I suggest using acetone
> first then following with denatured alcohol. I would avoid using any
> materials such as stain blocking primer. When I did the rear cap back in
> 2001 I used regular Krylon antique white and it has provided excellent
> service bonded without issues. The SEM is also very good but can be hard
> to
> find and you might need your own spray equipment if it cannot be found in a
> spray version.
>
> J.R. Wright
> TZE Zone Restorations
> On Location at Florida Space Coast
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:56 PM, rallymaster <rallymaster@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > Jay, this is a clip from Richard Archer (usually referred to as just
> > "Arch") one of our old-timers..
> > There are a number of dyes out there. I have used SEM and Plasti Coat.
> > Both worked well. Krylon now has one out called Fussion I think. It is
> > dye for plastic. You can dye seats and rugs with the stuff. It does not
> > sit on the surface like paint. It is absorbed into the plastic. I painted
> > my front endcap with it. Then I did something real dumb. I tossed it into
> > the loft of the barn for almost a year. I left the new colored surface
> > up. By the time I was ready to install it---well it was covered in bird
> > do do. What a mess! I got a bucket of water, some dish soap and a scrub
> > brush and went to work. I thought for sure I would have to spray it
> > again. I could not believe it---it cleaned right up. No stains or
> > anything. That's when I decided I loved the stuff.
> > One word of advice. It does not cover well. Don't try to spray one coat
> > to cover your mess.
> > It is very thin and will run. Use several light mist coats. Just what I
> > found out.
> > Take Care
> > Arch
> > ------------------------
> > I've used the SEM, and it does, indeed, work well, and just as Arch said.
> > And use lots of plastic drop cloth for overspray protection, because it
> > comes out in a really fine mist that goes everywhere. I did my front and
> > rear inside endcaps, and they look good. Not really WHITE white, but
> > just a little off-white. Big improvement.
> > Ronc
> > On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:15:27 +0000 Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> writes:
> > >
> > > OTOH, the yellowing
> > > is another issue, and if there were something I could use to return
> > > the original white color, that might be worth the effort.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > J
> > >
> > >
> > Ron & Linda Clark
> > 1978 Eleganza II
> > North Plains, ORYGUN
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > List Information and Subscription Options:
> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> >
>
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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