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Mike O'Connell is currently offline  Mike O'Connell   United States
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Hi folks,
My floor lights have gone out and while I have volts at, and after the switch I have no idea where the wire goes to get to the lights in the base of the cabinets. I see an orange wire after the switch. Without tearing into the cabinets all I can do at the other end is see the very end of the wire leading to the light and it has no volts.
Can anyone tell me where the wire goes and where it might have failed?


Mike O'Connell Deerfield, MA '75 Eleganza
Re: Floor light wiring [message #75429 is a reply to message #75395] Tue, 02 March 2010 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike O'Connell wrote on Tue, 02 March 2010 14:06

Hi folks,
My floor lights have gone out and while I have volts at, and after the switch I have no idea where the wire goes to get to the lights in the base of the cabinets. I see an orange wire after the switch. Without tearing into the cabinets all I can do at the other end is see the very end of the wire leading to the light and it has no volts.
Can anyone tell me where the wire goes and where it might have failed?


Mike
From the looks of the wiring diagram and the assembly manual that wire goes through 2 connectors , a 14 pin one above the switches and another 6 pin one over on the other side up near the top possibly inside one of the upper cabinets.

You could have a corroded connector.

How did you check for voltage at the floor lights? Across the 2 wires in the socket or from a good ground to the hot?



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Re: [GMCnet] Floor light wiring [message #75448 is a reply to message #75429] Tue, 02 March 2010 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Would anyone know, off hand, what lamps are used for the floor lighting? This is one place I'd like to put some LED's.

Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine

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Mike O'Connell wrote on Tue, 02 March 2010 14&#58;06
> Hi folks,
> My floor lights have gone out and while I have volts at, and after the switch I have no idea where the wire goes to get to the lights in the base of the cabinets. I see an orange wire after the switch. Without tearing into the cabinets all I can do at the other end is see the very end of the wire leading to the light and it has no volts.
> Can anyone tell me where the wire goes and where it might have failed?


Mike
From the looks of the wiring diagram and the assembly manual that wire goes through 2 connectors , a 14 pin one above the switches and another 6 pin one over on the other side up near the top possibly inside one of the upper cabinets.

You could have a corroded connector.

How did you check for voltage at the floor lights? Across the 2 wires in the socket or from a good ground to the hot?


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Re: [GMCnet] Floor light wiring [message #75454 is a reply to message #75448] Tue, 02 March 2010 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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I think I found it in the '76 Owner's Manual on page 111 - it lists "Aisle lighting, Quantity 2, Bulb No. 67"


Larry Davick
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Would anyone know, off hand, what lamps are used for the floor lighting? This is one place I'd like to put some LED's.

Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine

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Mike O'Connell wrote on Tue, 02 March 2010 14&#58;06
> Hi folks,
> My floor lights have gone out and while I have volts at, and after the switch I have no idea where the wire goes to get to the lights in the base of the cabinets. I see an orange wire after the switch. Without tearing into the cabinets all I can do at the other end is see the very end of the wire leading to the light and it has no volts.
> Can anyone tell me where the wire goes and where it might have failed?


Mike
From the looks of the wiring diagram and the assembly manual that wire goes through 2 connectors , a 14 pin one above the switches and another 6 pin one over on the other side up near the top possibly inside one of the upper cabinets.

You could have a corroded connector.

How did you check for voltage at the floor lights? Across the 2 wires in the socket or from a good ground to the hot?


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Re: [GMCnet] Floor light wiring [message #75484 is a reply to message #75454] Wed, 03 March 2010 01:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I installed 36 array LED's in my 2 aisle lights. It turned out they
were wired backwards; the case was hot and the center wire ground.
After reversing the wires, they worked okay.

I got them from www.jclampstand.com, part number JC-36-AB-WW for warm
white. These also fit the Royal and Birchaven porch lights. They cost
$20.00 each plus shipping and CA tax. They pull 0.25 Amps.

The lights are protected by a fuse in the fuse panel in the Circuit
Breaker compartment (where the old buzz box lived).

Chuck Garton
77 Kingsley 455
Ridgecrest, CA

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
> I think I found it in the '76 Owner's Manual on page 111 - it lists "Aisle lighting, Quantity 2, Bulb No. 67"
>
>
> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Davick" <ljdavick@comcast.net>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:24:01 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Floor light wiring
>
> Would anyone know, off hand, what lamps are used for the floor lighting? This is one place I'd like to put some LED's.
>
> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Lins" <tlins@optonline.net>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2010 2:54:50 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Floor light wiring
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>
> Mike O'Connell wrote on Tue, 02 March 2010 14&#58;06
>> Hi folks,
>> My floor lights have gone out and while I have volts at, and after the switch I have no idea where the wire goes to get to the lights in the base of the cabinets. I see an orange wire after the switch. Without tearing into the cabinets all I can do at the other end is see the very end of the wire leading to the light and it has no volts.
>> Can anyone tell me where the wire goes and where it might have failed?
>
>
> Mike
> From the looks of the wiring diagram and the assembly manual that wire goes through 2 connectors , a 14 pin one above the switches and another 6 pin one over on the other side up near the top possibly inside one of the upper cabinets.
>
> You could have a corroded connector.
>
> How did you check for voltage at the floor lights? Across the 2 wires in the socket or from a good ground to the hot?
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Floor light wiring [message #75503 is a reply to message #75448] Wed, 03 March 2010 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike O'Connell is currently offline  Mike O'Connell   United States
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..So I think the question I have is: Does the wiring gets from one side of the coach to the other through the ceiling or the floor, or does it go all the way around the back? If anyone knows how to get to these connectors, I could use the help. I'd rather not go tearing up the cabinets to look for them. The last time I did something like that it lead to some "upgrades".



Mike O'Connell Deerfield, MA '75 Eleganza

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Re: [GMCnet] Floor light wiring [message #75506 is a reply to message #75503] Wed, 03 March 2010 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't know which coach you have but Bryon Songers I think a Royal went
underneath the floor
between the floor and the frame near the entry door. He did some work on the
dinet , nailed some
two by fours and cut the wires between the frame and floor.
Hope this helps.

Jim

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>
>
> ..So I think the question I have is: Does the wiring gets from one side of
> the coach to the other through the ceiling or the floor, or does it go all
> the way around the back? If anyone knows how to get to these connectors, I
> could use the help. I'd rather not go tearing up the cabinets to look for
> them. the last time I did something like that it lead to some "upgrades".
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Re: [GMCnet] Floor light wiring [message #75509 is a reply to message #75484] Wed, 03 March 2010 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've just ordered some Bulb #67 replacements from superbrightleds.com. They had both 9 led ($5), and 15 led ($7) units so I ordered 2 of each to see if one was too dim, or the other too bright. This is only for the little hallway toe-kick lights. I like to leave them on at night so that my daughter and her friends don't wake up in the middle of the night and stumble about.

I'll report back.

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Re: [GMCnet] Floor light wiring [message #75511 is a reply to message #75484] Wed, 03 March 2010 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So the question is, how bright are they? Do they work well for the floor lights or are they too bright? Would they be bright enough for an overhead or under-counter or reading light?

I've been looking at various LED lights for some time, but not having an eyeball calibrated in lumens, I have no idea what my $20 would buy from a catalog.

Thanks for your testing this.

J Rabe
76 Palm Beach
Portland, OR


> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:41:53 -0800
> From: chuck210@gmail.com
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> I installed 36 array LED's in my 2 aisle lights....
> I got them from www.jclampstand.com, part number JC-36-AB-WW for warm
> white. These also fit the Royal and Birchaven porch lights. ...


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Re: [GMCnet] Floor light wiring [message #75517 is a reply to message #75509] Wed, 03 March 2010 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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here are the ones I made, cost about 50 cents.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=5572&cat=3515

be sure to read how the wiring is backwards for led lights

gene


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:

> I've just ordered some Bulb #67 replacements from superbrightleds.com.
> They had both 9 led ($5), and 15 led ($7) units so I ordered 2 of each to
> see if one was too dim, or the other too bright. This is only for the
> little hallway toe-kick lights. I like to leave them on at night so that my
> daughter and her friends don't wake up in the middle of the night and
> stumble about.
>
> I'll report back.
>
> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
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Re: Floor light wiring [message #79929 is a reply to message #75395] Fri, 09 April 2010 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I LOVE those little aisle lights. I think they're half the reason I bought the GMC. (Well, at least they and a perfect-running Onan sealed the deal.)

I replaced my incandescent lamps with LEDs as well. It's been a few years now, but when I bought them, the only white ones available were really cold white. The SO said they looked like little TVs and I had to admit they did. So I changed them out for amber ones, which I think look really cool. My wires were backward too...chop, chop, solder, solder fixed that.


Dave P.
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Re: Floor light wiring [message #79978 is a reply to message #75395] Sat, 10 April 2010 02:53 Go to previous message
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Mike,
On my, 75 Glenbrook, side bath the wire harness goes across in the ceiling rib at the front bath wall, along with 2 water lines.

The connector is at the roof rail inside ref box front panel, non other to the closet floor light. The galley floor light, I don't recall where it connects at, but since the harness goes down the wall inside the closet front panel and there are connectors on top of the wheel box, try there.

I would first try with a jumper wire between the switch out to the light in question, it could be a ground problem.

Hope this is of some help.


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