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Tue, 16 February 2010 07:03  |
Gary Casey
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Here are some comments that correlate with what Jim said. I can't speak for attitudes, but I did observe behavior:
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> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
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>> Being a Japanese American and knowing how they operate here in the
>> USA, I have no use for them.
>> They are RUDE. When you meet with them , they will huddle at one end
>> of the table and speak Japanese and determine what they need to do
>> then sit and discuss.
Some years ago I was often presenting technology to Japanese audiences. They would arrive with perhaps 10 or more people when I thought 2 or 3 would do. They would not speak any English and always asked us to provide a translator( a group spending 2 weeks in the US and no one spoke any English? Yeah, right). They, of course, would speak among themselves in Japanese. I would often deliberately use a phrase (not just a word) that would be surprising to someone that understood English and I would always get a visible reaction from several of the "non-English-speaking" audience. We would never speak privately in their presence as we knew that they understood English quite well. Then I would, during the presentation, walk around the room, looking over their backs at their notes. There would always be one or two that were copying our "confidential" presentation by hand almost perfectly. I figured they brought artists that were expert at making
quick sketches as no one could be listening and still copying that perfectly.
>> They also think that Americans are substandard.
>> That is why they feel that the problem with their product did not be
>> addressed and it would go away.
>> They use their banks here to funnel money back to Japan without paying
>> tax.
Again, many years ago I was on a federal committee and was presented some of the financial numbers. That year GM paid lots of income tax - many millions. Honda U.S. paid a total of zero dollars in federal income tax. Why? Honda U.S. was an "independent" company and had to buy cars to sell from their parent company. And the price was really high, so it was impossible to make any money in the U.S.
>> These cars are assembled here, but majority of the parts are brought
>> in by containerised cargo from Japan.
At the same time Honda was bragging that they were building "U.S." cars in Ohio and they qualified as being "domestic" cars under the U.S. law. The engine, being a large part of the value, was "built" in another Ohio plant. The crankshaft, being a substantial part of the engine cost, was shipped from Japan finished except for rolling the fillets in the journals. It was shipped to a U.S. company, who finished the crank. It was then shipped to the engine plant as a domestic product. The engine would then have enough domestic content to be called domestic. Then it would be shipped to the final assembly plant as a domestically-built engine. There, in total, were very, very few parts in the car that were truly domestic from beginning to end.
>> We need to support the GM, Ford and Crysler. The Japanese car
>> manufactures can go back to their rising sun.
Well, I'm not sure about that, as I have worked with a number of German customers, suppliers and co-workers.... My German boss was denigrating the Chevy Impala he rented as being not as good as his (bought with company money, of course!) Audi A8. I reminded him that he could buy at least 4 Impalas for one Audi.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #74015 is a reply to message #74013] |
Tue, 16 February 2010 07:24  |
Steven Ferguson
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I wonder if there is any real "made in the USA" automobiles out there.
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Gary Casey <casey.gary@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here are some comments that correlate with what Jim said. I can't speak for attitudes, but I did observe behavior:
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>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
>>
>>> Being a Japanese American and knowing how they operate here in the
>>> USA, I have no use for them.
>>> They are RUDE. When you meet with them , they will huddle at one end
>>> of the table and speak Japanese and determine what they need to do
>>> then sit and discuss.
> Some years ago I was often presenting technology to Japanese audiences. They would arrive with perhaps 10 or more people when I thought 2 or 3 would do. They would not speak any English and always asked us to provide a translator( a group spending 2 weeks in the US and no one spoke any English? Yeah, right). They, of course, would speak among themselves in Japanese. I would often deliberately use a phrase (not just a word) that would be surprising to someone that understood English and I would always get a visible reaction from several of the "non-English-speaking" audience. We would never speak privately in their presence as we knew that they understood English quite well. Then I would, during the presentation, walk around the room, looking over their backs at their notes. There would always be one or two that were copying our "confidential" presentation by hand almost perfectly. I figured they brought artists that were expert at making
> quick sketches as no one could be listening and still copying that perfectly.
>>> They also think that Americans are substandard.
>>> That is why they feel that the problem with their product did not be
>>> addressed and it would go away.
>>> They use their banks here to funnel money back to Japan without paying
>>> tax.
> Again, many years ago I was on a federal committee and was presented some of the financial numbers. That year GM paid lots of income tax - many millions. Honda U.S. paid a total of zero dollars in federal income tax. Why? Honda U.S. was an "independent" company and had to buy cars to sell from their parent company. And the price was really high, so it was impossible to make any money in the U.S.
>>> These cars are assembled here, but majority of the parts are brought
>>> in by containerised cargo from Japan.
> At the same time Honda was bragging that they were building "U.S." cars in Ohio and they qualified as being "domestic" cars under the U.S. law. The engine, being a large part of the value, was "built" in another Ohio plant. The crankshaft, being a substantial part of the engine cost, was shipped from Japan finished except for rolling the fillets in the journals. It was shipped to a U.S. company, who finished the crank. It was then shipped to the engine plant as a domestic product. The engine would then have enough domestic content to be called domestic. Then it would be shipped to the final assembly plant as a domestically-built engine. There, in total, were very, very few parts in the car that were truly domestic from beginning to end.
>>> We need to support the GM, Ford and Crysler. The Japanese car
>>> manufactures can go back to their rising sun.
> Well, I'm not sure about that, as I have worked with a number of German customers, suppliers and co-workers.... My German boss was denigrating the Chevy Impala he rented as being not as good as his (bought with company money, of course!) Audi A8. I reminded him that he could buy at least 4 Impalas for one Audi.
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