GMCforum
For enthusiast of the Classic GMC Motorhome built from 1973 to 1978. A web-based mirror of the GMCnet mailing list.

Home » Public Forums » GMCnet » Fine tuning my water heater (Propane)
Fine tuning my water heater (Propane) [message #73957] Mon, 15 February 2010 20:37 Go to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
Messages: 2875
Registered: January 2004
Location: Menomonie, WI
Karma: 10
Senior Member
The regulator on my Propane water heater went out last year. I was able to replace it with a used regulator from another water heater. I have tried fine tuning it by moving the air control to get a flame with no yellow in the flame. It is now staining the paint on the side of my coach with black soot. What is the proper way to fine tune the flame so that it is providing max heat without the soot?

Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: [GMCnet] Fine tuning my water heater (Propane) [message #74016 is a reply to message #73957] Tue, 16 February 2010 07:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
Messages: 15912
Registered: July 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
Karma: 6
Senior Member
Larry,

I don't know what I'm talking about but could it be that you need to adjust
the pressure output on the new regulator? I seem to remember that there's a
plastic screw in plug in center of some gas regulators.

If that doesn't work maybe you need an EGIS (Electronic Gas Injection
System)! ;-)

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2010 1:37 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Fine tuning my water heater (Propane)

The regulator on my Propane water heater went out last year. I was able to
replace it with a used regulator from another water heater. I have tried
fine tuning it by moving the air control to get a flame with no yellow in
the flame. It is now staining the paint on the side of my coach with black
soot. What is the proper way to fine tune the flame so that it is providing
max heat without the soot?
--
Larry :)
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
List Information and Subscription Options:
http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist

_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
List Information and Subscription Options:
http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist



Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: Fine tuning my water heater (Propane) [message #74033 is a reply to message #73957] Tue, 16 February 2010 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
idrob is currently offline  idrob   United States
Messages: 645
Registered: January 2005
Location: Central Idaho
Karma: 0
Senior Member
Larry wrote on Mon, 15 February 2010 18:37

The regulator on my Propane water heater went out last year. I was able to replace it with a used regulator from another water heater. I have tried fine tuning it by moving the air control to get a flame with no yellow in the flame. It is now staining the paint on the side of my coach with black soot. What is the proper way to fine tune the flame so that it is providing max heat without the soot?



What is the "regulator" you replaced? The gas valve? Did you put the original orifice back on it, if you replaced it? Did you clean the orifice? Have you checked for spider webs in the burner tube? They can cause the inability to properly regulate the air flow.

Just some ideas.


Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
Re: Fine tuning my water heater (Propane) [message #74156 is a reply to message #74033] Wed, 17 February 2010 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
Messages: 2875
Registered: January 2004
Location: Menomonie, WI
Karma: 10
Senior Member
idrob wrote on Tue, 16 February 2010 09:29

Larry wrote on Mon, 15 February 2010 18:37

The regulator on my Propane water heater went out last year. I was able to replace it with a used regulator from another water heater. I have tried fine tuning it by moving the air control to get a flame with no yellow in the flame. It is now staining the paint on the side of my coach with black soot. What is the proper way to fine tune the flame so that it is providing max heat without the soot?



What is the "regulator" you replaced? The gas valve? Did you put the original orifice back on it, if you replaced it? Did you clean the orifice? Have you checked for spider webs in the burner tube? They can cause the inability to properly regulate the air flow.

Just some ideas.

Ok, I guess I mean I replaced the gas valve, and cleaned and put the original orifice back on. Had to replace the burner tube as it almost fell apart from rust. Any other ideas??


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: Fine tuning my water heater (Propane) [message #74182 is a reply to message #74156] Wed, 17 February 2010 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
idrob is currently offline  idrob   United States
Messages: 645
Registered: January 2005
Location: Central Idaho
Karma: 0
Senior Member
Larry wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 10:28

idrob wrote on Tue, 16 February 2010 09:29

Larry wrote on Mon, 15 February 2010 18:37

The regulator on my Propane water heater went out last year. I was able to replace it with a used regulator from another water heater. I have tried fine tuning it by moving the air control to get a flame with no yellow in the flame. It is now staining the paint on the side of my coach with black soot. What is the proper way to fine tune the flame so that it is providing max heat without the soot?



What is the "regulator" you replaced? The gas valve? Did you put the original orifice back on it, if you replaced it? Did you clean the orifice? Have you checked for spider webs in the burner tube? They can cause the inability to properly regulate the air flow.

Just some ideas.

Ok, I guess I mean I replaced the gas valve, and cleaned and put the original orifice back on. Had to replace the burner tube as it almost fell apart from rust. Any other ideas??


Hmm, yellow and sooting is from lack of air. The shutters on them are adjustable. Have you run out of adjustment then? You can't get any more air? If so, my only additional thought is to be sure the new burner tube is aligned so that there is no "sag" or bend in the line from the orifice into the burner tube. If there is, I have found that they can sometimes do what you are experiencing. The gas must inject right into the middle of the burner tube so it properly induces the combustion air through the slots. When you put the new gas valve on, you could have cocked it slightly, so the alignment is not right between it and the burner tube.

At least check that, otherwise I am out of ideas.


Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
Re: Fine tuning my water heater (Propane) [message #74219 is a reply to message #73957] Wed, 17 February 2010 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hasbeen is currently offline  hasbeen   United States
Messages: 66
Registered: August 2005
Location: Cave Creek, AZ
Karma: 0
Member
Larry, back to basics before you start pulling your hair out. Check the LP pressure at the main regulator before trying any repairs on the water heater. If it checks o/k there then follow the directions already given. Jim
Re: Fine tuning my water heater (Propane) [message #74398 is a reply to message #73957] Fri, 19 February 2010 20:21 Go to previous message
kingd is currently offline  kingd   Canada
Messages: 592
Registered: June 2004
Karma: 2
Senior Member
Larry, how did you clean the orifice ? Hopefully only with solvent and air. I don't know why this is so , but it's said a lot that if you clean an orifice by passing a wire or what ever through the hole the orifice is ruined.

DAVE KING


DAVE KING lurker, wannabe Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Previous Topic: [GMCnet] Agreed value insurance
Next Topic: Ready To Roll
Goto Forum:
  


Current Time: Sun Sep 22 13:32:22 CDT 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.01469 seconds