| Olds Tornado [message #73366] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 15:48  |
Jon payne
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Hi all,
I know this subject has come up before and I have an idea of what can be used from a salvaged Tornado. I have a friend who has a friend (of course) and he has two Tornados that he wants to scrap out. Not sure of the years but they both have 455's. My question is has anyone every put together a complete list of what can be salvaged from a Tornado to be used on a GMC? I'm thinking engine and trans but what about the hubs, control arms and so on?
Jon
Jon Payne
76 Palm Beach
Westfield,IN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Olds Tornado [message #73374 is a reply to message #73366] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 17:27  |
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USAussie
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Jon,
Here's some differences:
1) Toronado carb is not the same as a GMC
2) Lower control arms will require "beefing up"
3) The hubs have 5 studs for the wheels the GMC has 8
4) I THINK the lower ball joints have a different taper and the knuckles
would need to be re-worked
5) If the Toronados are 1967 or 1968 they will have switch pitch
transmissions
6) If the Toronados are 1967 or 1968 they will have a 3.21 to 1 planetary
gear final drive
7) If the Toronados are 1967 or 1968 the passenger side final drive
extension shaft is different
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: [GMCnet] Olds Tornado
Hi all,
I know this subject has come up before and I have an idea of what can be
used from a salvaged Tornado. I have a friend who has a friend (of course)
and he has two Tornados that he wants to scrap out. Not sure of the years
but they both have 455's. My question is has anyone every put together a
complete list of what can be salvaged from a Tornado to be used on a GMC?
I'm thinking engine and trans but what about the hubs, control arms and so
on?
Jon
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Westfield,IN
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Olds Tornado [message #73376 is a reply to message #73374] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 17:32 |
scott cowden
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jon;
more to the point, the knuckles are the same but for the diameter of the taper for the lower ball joint.
the CV joints themselves on the half shafts are interchangeable with motorhome units.
It's the 1966 model year that had the switch pitch. that may extend to some early 67's.
on Gene Fisher's site at one time, i beleive there was a 'how to' to reinforce the lower control arms for motorhome use.
Scott '74 Glacier Orillia, ON, Canada
> Jon,
>
> Here's some differences:
>
> 1) Toronado carb is not the same as a GMC
> 2) Lower control arms will require "beefing up"
> 3) The hubs have 5 studs for the wheels the GMC has 8
> 4) I THINK the lower ball joints have a different taper and the knuckles
> would need to be re-worked
> 5) If the Toronados are 1967 or 1968 they will have switch pitch
> transmissions
> 6) If the Toronados are 1967 or 1968 they will have a 3.21 to 1 planetary
> gear final drive
> 7) If the Toronados are 1967 or 1968 the passenger side final drive
> extension shaft is different
>
> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
>
> Regards,
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Jon Payne
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 8:48 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Olds Tornado
>
> Hi all,
>
> I know this subject has come up before and I have an idea of what can be
> used from a salvaged Tornado. I have a friend who has a friend (of course)
> and he has two Tornados that he wants to scrap out. Not sure of the years
> but they both have 455's. My question is has anyone every put together a
> complete list of what can be salvaged from a Tornado to be used on a GMC?
> I'm thinking engine and trans but what about the hubs, control arms and so
> on?
>
> Jon
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> 76 Palm Beach/
> Westfield,IN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Olds Tornado [message #73385 is a reply to message #73374] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 20:45 |
Steven Ferguson
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What Rob said!
If the car has drum brakes, the knuckles cannot be used for the GMC.
The control arms can be upgraded to equal the motorhome strength. The
air cleaner is a keeper, as are the exhaust and intake mainfolds.
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Jon,
>
> Here's some differences:
>
> 1) Toronado carb is not the same as a GMC
> 2) Lower control arms will require "beefing up"
> 3) The hubs have 5 studs for the wheels the GMC has 8
> 4) I THINK the lower ball joints have a different taper and the knuckles
> would need to be re-worked
> 5) If the Toronados are 1967 or 1968 they will have switch pitch
> transmissions
> 6) If the Toronados are 1967 or 1968 they will have a 3.21 to 1 planetary
> gear final drive
> 7) If the Toronados are 1967 or 1968 the passenger side final drive
> extension shaft is different
>
> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
>
> Regards,
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Jon Payne
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 8:48 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Olds Tornado
>
> Hi all,
>
> I know this subject has come up before and I have an idea of what can be
> used from a salvaged Tornado. I have a friend who has a friend (of course)
> and he has two Tornados that he wants to scrap out. Not sure of the years
> but they both have 455's. My question is has anyone every put together a
> complete list of what can be salvaged from a Tornado to be used on a GMC?
> I'm thinking engine and trans but what about the hubs, control arms and so
> on?
>
> Jon
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> 76 Palm Beach/
> Westfield,IN
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| Re: Olds Tornado [message #73393 is a reply to message #73366] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 21:09 |
Jon payne
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Thanks guys! I will let you know more as I get more info about the Toros!
Jp
Jon Payne
76 Palm Beach
Westfield,IN
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| Re: Olds Tornado [message #73395 is a reply to message #73393] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 21:14 |
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Jon
You might want to google "junkyard gems".
Randy
| Jon Payne wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 19:09 |
Thanks guys! I will let you know more as I get more info about the Toros!
Jp
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Sammamish WA
75 EX GB
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