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| Re: [GMCnet] Aerogels Finally Reasonable? [message #73346 is a reply to message #73297] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 11:51   |
Marsh Wilkes
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Hi Ken,
How you coming on the engine?
I may be able to spend a day in Americus on March 19th and help you with
your project, if you're interested. I will be on the way to the LeConte
Lodge Airlift where we resupply the lodge for the year.
I have looked at the Aspen Aerogels before, the insulation value looks very
good, about R-10.5/in vs. foam at about R-6.5/in, this would be good on a
thickness basis.
As far as I know these test and ratings are comparable to the foam, not like
the bubble insulation where the high values are only true of heat traveling
in a downward direction with a specified airspace above the insulation and
the insulation perfectly clean.
Do you have any idea of the pricing?
The one thing that jumped out at me when I just looked at the specs is the
weight, about 9.5 lb/cu.ft. vs. about 2 lb/cu.ft. for foam.
I thought aerogels were extremely light, must be the matting adding the
weight.
Marsh Wilkes
Perry Florida
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Henderson" <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
To: "gmclist" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:26 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Aerogels Finally Reasonable?
> If I were going to refurb another GMC, I'd sure be looking into the cost
> of
> this stuff:
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> http://www.aerogel.com/Aspen_Aerogels_Spaceloft.pdf
> <http://www.aerogel.com/Aspen_Aerogels_Spaceloft.pdf>
> Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aerogels Finally Reasonable? [message #73348 is a reply to message #73346] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 12:21 |
GMCWiperMan
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Marsh,
If we're here, we'd sure enjoy having you. But, that's the day GMCMI
Montgomery starts, so I'm hoping that's where we'll be, after leaving here
the 15th or before.
I haven't done anything more about Aerogel than look at their web site.
Since I don't have an application for it now, there's no incentive. If I
were crazy enough to start another coach at my age, I sure would look into
it though. The fact that it can be used as a thermal break and that we
could squeeze several layers into the GMC's cavities should make it ideal if
not TOO expensive.
Ken
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Marsh Wilkes <gmc455@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> How you coming on the engine?
> I may be able to spend a day in Americus on March 19th and help you with
> your project, if you're interested. I will be on the way to the LeConte
> Lodge Airlift where we resupply the lodge for the year.
> I have looked at the Aspen Aerogels before, the insulation value looks very
> good, about R-10.5/in vs. foam at about R-6.5/in, this would be good on a
> thickness basis.
> As far as I know these test and ratings are comparable to the foam, not
> like
> the bubble insulation where the high values are only true of heat traveling
> in a downward direction with a specified airspace above the insulation and
> the insulation perfectly clean.
> Do you have any idea of the pricing?
> The one thing that jumped out at me when I just looked at the specs is the
> weight, about 9.5 lb/cu.ft. vs. about 2 lb/cu.ft. for foam.
> I thought aerogels were extremely light, must be the matting adding the
> weight.
>
> Marsh Wilkes
> Perry Florida
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Henderson" <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
> To: "gmclist" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:26 PM
> Subject: [GMCnet] Aerogels Finally Reasonable?
>
>
> > If I were going to refurb another GMC, I'd sure be looking into the cost
> > of
> > this stuff:
> >
> > http://www.aerogel.com/Aspen_Aerogels_Spaceloft.pdf
> > <http://www.aerogel.com/Aspen_Aerogels_Spaceloft.pdf>
> > Ken H.
> > _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aerogels Finally Reasonable? [message #73349 is a reply to message #73348] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 12:48 |
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USAussie
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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Ken,
I sent the message below in to the GMCnet but never got a copy back. It
appears that it did not get distributed, however, so I'll try again.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Ken,
I read the brochures and then went to the website and watched the video,
Mate this stuff is AMAZING. I've asked if there are any distributors in the
Houston area and in Australia.
Once they provide that info I'll check into the cost and share it with the
GMCnet.
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Henderson
Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 5:21 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Aerogels Finally Reasonable?
Marsh,
If we're here, we'd sure enjoy having you. But, that's the day GMCMI
Montgomery starts, so I'm hoping that's where we'll be, after leaving here
the 15th or before.
I haven't done anything more about Aerogel than look at their web site.
Since I don't have an application for it now, there's no incentive. If I
were crazy enough to start another coach at my age, I sure would look into
it though. The fact that it can be used as a thermal break and that we
could squeeze several layers into the GMC's cavities should make it ideal if
not TOO expensive.
Ken
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Marsh Wilkes <gmc455@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> How you coming on the engine?
> I may be able to spend a day in Americus on March 19th and help you with
> your project, if you're interested. I will be on the way to the LeConte
> Lodge Airlift where we resupply the lodge for the year.
> I have looked at the Aspen Aerogels before, the insulation value looks
very
> good, about R-10.5/in vs. foam at about R-6.5/in, this would be good on a
> thickness basis.
> As far as I know these test and ratings are comparable to the foam, not
> like
> the bubble insulation where the high values are only true of heat
traveling
> in a downward direction with a specified airspace above the insulation and
> the insulation perfectly clean.
> Do you have any idea of the pricing?
> The one thing that jumped out at me when I just looked at the specs is the
> weight, about 9.5 lb/cu.ft. vs. about 2 lb/cu.ft. for foam.
> I thought aerogels were extremely light, must be the matting adding the
> weight.
>
> Marsh Wilkes
> Perry Florida
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Henderson" <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
> To: "gmclist" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:26 PM
> Subject: [GMCnet] Aerogels Finally Reasonable?
>
>
> > If I were going to refurb another GMC, I'd sure be looking into the cost
> > of
> > this stuff:
> >
> > http://www.aerogel.com/Aspen_Aerogels_Spaceloft.pdf
> > <http://www.aerogel.com/Aspen_Aerogels_Spaceloft.pdf>
> > Ken H.
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > List Information and Subscription Options:
> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aerogels Finally Reasonable? [message #73357 is a reply to message #73348] |
Tue, 09 February 2010 14:04 |
Marsh Wilkes
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Henderson" <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Aerogels Finally Reasonable?
> Marsh,
>
> If we're here, we'd sure enjoy having you. But, that's the day GMCMI
> Montgomery starts, so I'm hoping that's where we'll be, after leaving here
> the 15th or before.
>
> I haven't done anything more about Aerogel than look at their web site.
> Since I don't have an application for it now, there's no incentive. If I
> were crazy enough to start another coach at my age, I sure would look into
> it though. The fact that it can be used as a thermal break and that we
> could squeeze several layers into the GMC's cavities should make it ideal
> if
> not TOO expensive.
>
> Ken
Hi Ken,
I hope you make it to the rally on schedule. I will stop by some other time.
You gona put any more brakes on it to go with the engine?
I still think the ultimate will be electric hydro boost, with the reaction
arm rear suspension.
I think that should be your next project, don't you just love me coming up
with projects for you.
Marsh
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| Re: [GMCnet] Aerogels Finally Reasonable? [message #174854 is a reply to message #174844] |
Thu, 28 June 2012 06:50 |
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USAussie
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Larry,
I did a Google search "buy Aerogel insulation" and the website below popped up:
http://www.buyaerogel.com/tag/insulation/
Rectangle, 1 ft x 0.9 ft x 6 mm, $25.00
Rectangle, 2 ft x 1.8 ft x 6 mm, $90.00
Rectangle, 4 ft x 1.8 ft x 6 mm, $175.00
ROUGH Guesstimate of cost
GMC ceiling = 20 ft long x 8 ft wide
$175 x 2 =$350 = I width @ 1.8 long
20 / 1.8 = 11
11 x $350 = $3850
Guess that answers that question! ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Of Larry Davick
Here's an old thread. I noticed some interest in insulation and came across this oldie that I've had in my saved items. I wonder
if any advancements have been made with Aerogels?
Larry
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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