| Bumper Over-riders [message #68379] |
Fri, 25 December 2009 22:53  |
GeorgeRud
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The recently posted pictures of the Avion coach has some very nice bumper over-riders.
Does anyone know if these were original or aftermarket? They actually look quite nice, but this is the first time I've seen pictures of these.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: Bumper Over-riders [message #68390 is a reply to message #68379] |
Sat, 26 December 2009 08:48  |
bryant374
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GeorgeRud
The recently posted pictures of the Avion coach has some very nice bumper over-riders.
Does anyone know if these were original or aftermarket? They actually look quite nice, but this is the first time I've seen pictures of these.
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These bumper over-riders do not show up on any GMC MH option or acessory listings. I believe they are after market additions.
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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| Re: Bumper Over-riders [message #68470 is a reply to message #68379] |
Sun, 27 December 2009 11:34 |
Firefly
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These bumper guards used to be available from JC Whitney; the taxi company used them on all of their cabs, including Checkers and whatever ex-police cruiser they bought at auction (Fords, Chevy Caprices or Chrysler/Plymouth).
After checking on the JCW website for "bumper guard" produces 6 results, of which only one is applicable to this application and it looks either plastic or rubber. Even though you can select the GMC MH in the application (all years), sadly, there are none for our coaches.
So don't waste your time there. I couldn't find them doing a search for "steel bumper guard" either.
Mark Scoble, Lunenburg, MA - 1973 23' Palm Beach Stretched to 32' and in residence at the GMC Co-Op in Orlando, FL
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| Re: Bumper Over-riders [message #68492 is a reply to message #68379] |
Sun, 27 December 2009 14:17 |
JohnL455
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Most of you guys should have lived through the time period where the dealer installed bumper guards were the hot item for additional dealer profit and were somehow fashionable. We used to call them 'dorks' and my buddy was the new car prep guy at Lynch Buick in Chicago. Narry a new Regal came off the carrier that he didn't have to bolt the dorks on to. Sort of reminds me of the trend today with the stick on portholes or the clear taillamp lenses. I guess going further back in time it was the curb feelers. I guess on the GMC they sort of are OK as there is so much clearance to the body. Problem was in many instances they were the damage increaser instead of preventer as if you put on the ones with the wrong offset, when the energy absorbing bumper did its job, the dorks came in and wiped out the taillamps or deck lid lip to finish the job. We thought they were really ugly on cars and caused the bumper to rot out under where you could not clean the salt off etc.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Bumper Over-riders [message #68496 is a reply to message #68379] |
Sun, 27 December 2009 14:27 |
GeorgeRud
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Does this mean I have to remove the fuzzy dice off the rearview mirror, the hula girl off the dash, the Moon gas pedal, and the necker knob off the steering wheel as well?
Also, do you remember when JC Whitney was also Warshawsky?
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bumper Over-riders [message #68509 is a reply to message #68492] |
Sun, 27 December 2009 15:41 |
GMCWiperMan
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Your memory must not go back as far as mine, which includes when there was
plenty of space between the bumper and the body and the "bumper guards" were
needed frequently since we spent a lot of time pushing or being pushed. The
bumper guards usually kept us from locking bumpers when the pusher or pushee
got a little over rambumctious. At least in SW GA & SE AL in the days of
mostly dirt (or mud) roads, bumper guards were almost mandatory. We didn't
know what a dork was (maybe we all were?). :-)
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 3:17 PM, John R. Lebetski <gransport@aol.com> wrote:
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> Most of you guys should have lived through the time period where the dealer
> installed bumper guards were the hot item for additional dealer profit and
> were somehow fashionable. We used to call them 'dorks' and my buddy was the
> new car prep guy at Lynch Buick in Chicago. Narry a new Regal came off the
> carrier that he didn't have to bolt the dorks on to. Sort of reminds me of
> the trend today with the stick on portholes or the clear taillamp lenses. I
> guess going further back in time it was the curb feelers. I guess on the GMC
> they sort of are OK as there is so much clearance to the body. Problem was
> in many instances they were the damage increaser instead of preventer as if
> you put on the ones with the wrong offset, when the energy absorbing bumper
> did its job, the dorks came in and wiped out the taillamps or deck lid lip
> to finish the job. We thought they were really ugly on cars and caused the
> bumper to rot out under where you could not clean the salt off etc.
> --
> John Lebetski
> Chicago, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bumper Over-riders [message #68524 is a reply to message #68496] |
Sun, 27 December 2009 17:15 |
k2gkk
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If I recall, Warshawsky was the wholesale outfit and J C Whitney
the retail side.
The dad of two of my friends working with flathead Fords had a
complete auto shop that even built leaf springs from scratch.
We were allowed to use the shop's equipment evenings and weekends.
We always ordered out parts through Warshawsky. Catalogs were
virtually identical, except for prices as I recall.
This was mid to late 50s in Jamestown, NY and shop was owned by
Walt Nickerson. Great times for a teenager, for sure!
Reminds me of my first car in 1956, a 1950 Chevy with Three on
the Tree! Moved the shift lever to the left side and put necker
knob on the wheel so I could drive using left hand to steer and
shift while keeping right arm around the girl!
D C "Mac" Macdonald
Oklahoma City, OK
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: GeorgeRud@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:27:33 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bumper Over-riders
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> Does this mean I have to remove the fuzzy dice off the rearview mirror, the hula girl off the dash, the Moon gas pedal, and the necker knob off the steering wheel as well?
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> Also, do you remember when JC Whitney was also Warshawsky?
> --
> George Rudawsky
> Chicago, IL
> 75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bumper Over-riders [message #68563 is a reply to message #68509] |
Sun, 27 December 2009 21:54 |
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I'm only 62 and remember the guards of cars made before 1957. I recall my
dad pushing someone and being grateful the guards were in place to keep the
other car from coming into the grill of our '53 Ford.
Of course, the early 50's Buick Roadmonsters had them integrated into the
bumper and grill. Wow. What style. Cadillac added rubber nibs in 57 and 58.
Of course I had the "dorks" on my 1974 Pontiac Bonneville and again on my
1977 Olds 88 Royale. On those it was just trim.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
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Ken Henderson wrote:
> Your memory must not go back as far as mine, which includes when there was
> plenty of space between the bumper and the body and the "bumper guards" were
> needed frequently since we spent a lot of time pushing or being pushed. The
> bumper guards usually kept us from locking bumpers when the pusher or pushee
> got a little over rambumctious. At least in SW GA & SE AL in the days of
> mostly dirt (or mud) roads, bumper guards were almost mandatory. We didn't
> know what a dork was (maybe we all were?). :-)
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: Bumper Over-riders [message #68567 is a reply to message #68379] |
Sun, 27 December 2009 22:40 |
JohnL455
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I remember going down to Warshawskys in the hood. The prices were lower I think in the Whitney book but you could get those if you asked. (or do I have it reversed) We used to joke in High school about taking a $100 car and adding on every possible piece of addon crap you could buy to make it real special. The gas mileage addons were the best that alligned the fuel molecules. The catalogue was good bathroom reading. There were certain things they had there that wree hard to find elsewhere. My buddy wanted to hop up a 250 Chevy 6 in his 68 Belair and got a 3 ace manifold setup, cam, headers for it there. It did work when done. But emissions were pretty nasty with the cam around town. I guess we didn't have the made in China 24" rims to play with then so we had to do other stuff. Each generation has it's version of addons I guess. I'm glad I grew up before the riceburner gen when GM was in its hayday. We did have fun with the 455 Buicks, Olds and Pontiacs and 472 Caddys.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Bumper Over-riders [message #68583 is a reply to message #68379] |
Mon, 28 December 2009 06:33 |
GeorgeRud
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Somehow I don't think JC Whitney's new warehouse facility will ever compare to the "funk" of the old place. I wonder if the Warshawsky name was to entice the large Polish population of Chicago to shop there (though I believe it was the owner's name). The chainlink fenced parking lot across the street was a necessity in that neighborhood as well! Ah, the memories of youth................
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bumper Over-riders [message #68615 is a reply to message #68583] |
Mon, 28 December 2009 09:36 |
k2gkk
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It may have been more likely that Mr Warshawsky thought he'd
get more business with a more "American" sounding name!
No offense intended, but ethnic bias was very strong in lots
(many would say most) places back in the 50s (AND later).
Mac in Oklahoma City
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: GeorgeRud@aol.com
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 06:33:28 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bumper Over-riders
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> Somehow I don't think JC Whitney's new warehouse facility will ever compare to the "funk" of the old place. I wonder if the Warshawsky name was to entice the large Polish population of Chicago to shop there (though I believe it was the owner's name). The chainlink fenced parking lot across the street was a necessity in that neighborhood as well! Ah, the memories of youth................
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> George Rudawsky
> Chicago, IL
> 75 Palm Beach
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