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Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68182] Wed, 23 December 2009 16:08 Go to next message
MikeT   United States
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Hello Folks,

I'm new to the forum with my new 77 Eleganza. I live in Michigan where everything rusts. My new coach is in great shape but sat for 5 years prior to sale. All the calipers, pad and rotors were rusted. I purchase all new and now I am wondering if I should paint the new calipers to help prevent rust? I see several folks paint them on their car for cosmetic reason, I just want to prevent rust and hopefully have them last longer.

Has anyone painted? Does anyone think this is a bad idea?

Thanks


Mike Thomas Marine City, MI 77 ex Palm Beach
Re: Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68185 is a reply to message #68182] Wed, 23 December 2009 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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""I'm new to the forum with my new 77 Eleganza. I live in Michigan where everything rusts. My new coach is in great shape but sat for 5 years prior to sale. All the calipers, pad and rotors were rusted. I purchase all new and now I am wondering if I should paint the new calipers to help prevent rust? I see several folks paint them on their car for cosmetic reason, I just want to prevent rust and hopefully have them last longer.

Has anyone painted? Does anyone think this is a bad idea?""

I fled Michigan after about 40 years and never had a functional problem because of calipers rusting, but it is an interesting thought. I suppose if you use a high temperature paint that's available for calipers, it probably won't hurt anything as long as you keep it off the slide surfaces. On the otherhand, most rust will be cosmetic and if you lube the pins and use new grommets, I doubt it will do any good either.


Bob de Kruyff
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Re: Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68186 is a reply to message #68182] Wed, 23 December 2009 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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I painted mine Black. I forget what kind of paint I used. I also did the rears.

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Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68187 is a reply to message #68182] Wed, 23 December 2009 17:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Mike,

I painted the calipers black and masked off the braking surfaces of the
disks and painted all the other surfaces black as well.

I used high temp header paint.

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
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USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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Hello Folks,

I'm new to the forum with my new 77 Eleganza. I live in Michigan where
everything rusts. My new coach is in great shape but sat for 5 years prior
to sale. All the calipers, pad and rotors were rusted. I purchase all new
and now I am wondering if I should paint the new calipers to help prevent
rust? I see several folks paint them on their car for cosmetic reason, I
just want to prevent rust and hopefully have them last longer.

Has anyone painted? Does anyone think this is a bad idea?

Thanks
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Re: Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68191 is a reply to message #68182] Wed, 23 December 2009 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MikeT SE Michigan wrote on Wed, 23 December 2009 14:08

... All the calipers, pad and rotors were rusted. ... I see several folks paint them on their car for cosmetic reason, ... Does anyone think this is a bad idea? ...


I agree with Bob, the rust (anywhere you can paint) is cosmetic. It is more important to keep the pins and other parts lubed.

That said... I do not think that painting the calipers is a bad idea. (I would.) According to other forums, you really do not NEED high temperature paint. The calipers do not see the heat that you would expect. Any enamel paint should work just fine. (Brush on also.) I have heard Rust-Oleum being recommended. That said... I used engine enamel on my Audi.


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Re: Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68198 is a reply to message #68182] Wed, 23 December 2009 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I often see an expoxy based paint for calipers offered for porsche's as the heat from the pad heats the brake fluid and in turn this heats the caliper which helps dissapate the heat buildup. Some of the better brake fluids have very high temp boiling points. I would tend to want an expoxy based paint which won't chip, peel or crack.

Michael

p.s. the expoxy paints available come in nice colors like red, yellow, black, silver etc.,

Re: Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68204 is a reply to message #68182] Wed, 23 December 2009 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ggroth is currently offline  ggroth   United States
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Hi Mike, welcome to the Forum. You'll get lots of good advice from the old timers on here. Most of it very useful, but you must make up your own mind about things. Try to read older pages of the Forum or search for a particular subject. It's worthwhile time spent.
Good luck, come see us in Nevada where it's only +10 degrees tonight, and snow on the way. HA


geo groth '73 260 Sequoia Carson City Nevada 89703
Re: Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68205 is a reply to message #68182] Wed, 23 December 2009 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We've used red high temp paint (kind of dull) on calipers with a second coat of red engine paint (a little shiney).

When warmer weather comes and our coach is back in the un-frozen north, I plan to take our 80mm calipers off the front, bead blast and paint them yellow so as to complement our Eleganza II paint job. I installed the calipers in FL where I had no access to the bead blaster or they would already be painted.

Caliper specific paint is now available in auto parts stores in several colors. I think machinery looks better and is happier with a nice finish; paint, chrome, polish, etc.

Don & Susan Jeffers
78 Eleganza II
Re: Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68206 is a reply to message #68182] Wed, 23 December 2009 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A friends 73' GMC coach (shall remain nameless) had her calipers painted red by PO. When we took it out of storage last spring, we drove it into town...about 8 miles. By the time we got to town, the brakes were so hot she had almost no brakes. I shot the rotors with a laser thermometer and found temps in excess of 400*!! In the end we found that the paint had contributed to the calipers freezing up...both pistons and slides. IMO, it is not a good idea to paint calipers...unless you take the time to carefully mask off the moving parts. Even then, I wonder if it is worth the trouble. The only time I have seen calipers freeze is from rust around the slides and pistons....something that should not be painted anyway. JMHO

Larry Smile
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Re: Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68211 is a reply to message #68182] Thu, 24 December 2009 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dan Borlase is currently offline  Dan Borlase   Canada
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Mike....I painted mine RED because the brite color gives better
braking........ya think?
Dan who likes it when "it" all looks good Borlase
Re: Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68219 is a reply to message #68211] Thu, 24 December 2009 02:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I painted mine Black, including the rear drums, so people hopefully would not see them. I do not remember using high temperature paint but I might have. Someone once told me that black would radiate more heat. I do not know if that is true. I painted my headers white.

I paint anything I remove or replace. As an example I replaced a water pump this summer and the new one got painted blue before I installed it. I just did the same to some airplane engine parts.
I just painted all of the push rod tubes, valve covers, intake tubes, and cooling baffles.

I just like a clean looking engine. Same for the brakes.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68239 is a reply to message #68182] Thu, 24 December 2009 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MikeT SE Michigan wrote on Wed, 23 December 2009 17:08

Hello Folks,

I'm new to the forum with my new 77 Eleganza. I live in Michigan where everything rusts.
My new coach is in great shape but sat for 5 years prior to sale. All the calipers, pad and rotors were rusted. I purchase all new and now I am wondering if I should paint the new calipers to help prevent rust?
I see several folks paint them on their car for cosmetic reason, I just want to prevent rust and hopefully have them last longer.

Has anyone painted?
Does anyone think this is a bad idea?

Thanks

Mike,
First - Welcome to the forum and the "cult" of GMC owners.
Second - To paraphrase a waterman's greeting of a recently acquired craft - May the good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within.

To the question at hand:
I have painted numerous brake parts over many years sometimes for protection and other times for appearance. I have never had a problem with an alkyd enamel - most often sold as engine paint. Alkyd enamels are good to 350*F+. As another said, be certain that you do not paint gibs, pins of other parts that may need to slip in the life of the brake pads. This is best done before installing so all those areas can be masked, removed or cleaned (oops).

Did you collect a copy of the "Black List" (other owners that can offer at least experience).
URL:<http://www.bdub.net/Black_List/GMCAssist.pdf> This list was named for Roger Black who started the compilation.

Next point of discussion, you are in SE Mi. (My condolences - did you read this morning that the state's population is now below 10M?) You have a lot of local company. Where are you specifically? There are more than a few in striking range if you need assistance. I am in New Boston - "Where's that?" Just up the road from Waltz. (Now that I got to drop the straight line.) The SW corner of DTW and roughtly Sibley and I-275.

Again, Welcome to the group.

Matt Colie


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Re: [GMCnet] Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68418 is a reply to message #68198] Sat, 26 December 2009 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike

Welcome to the GMC crowd....
..and re the Porsche comment, I painted my calipers a few years ago (911
SC) and used Tremclad...likely the same as Rustoleum......so far the colour
is the same as the day they were painted and I'm not gentle on the car..my
insurance company, my lawyer, and the local judge all agree <VBG>

Mike in NS (Nova Scotia)




On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:23 PM, MICHAEL FOSTER <mfoster356@yahoo.com>wrote:

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>
> I often see an expoxy based paint for calipers offered for porsche's as the
> heat from the pad heats the brake fluid and in turn this heats the caliper
> which helps dissapate the heat buildup. Some of the better brake fluids
> have very high temp boiling points. I would tend to want an expoxy based
> paint which won't chip, peel or crack.
>
> Michael
>
> p.s. the expoxy paints available come in nice colors like red, yellow,
> black, silver etc.,
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Re: [GMCnet] Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68420 is a reply to message #68418] Sat, 26 December 2009 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...bet you painted them RED! Did,nt you!!!
Re: Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68434 is a reply to message #68182] Sun, 27 December 2009 00:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,
I have always painted my brake parts with good quality enamel paint,usualy with a brush. I used to be paranoid about not painting the braking surface, but now I'm not so fussy,the excess rubs off on first application.
Painting the parts lasts for years, no rusty parts in my wheel slots and easy to clean.
4 or 5 years ago I could smell burning paint coming from the right front wheel, She'll be right, I'll check it out when I get home. Lucky to get home, Collapsed brake hose = overheated brake = burnt wheel bearing, cheap warning system?


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Re: [GMCnet] Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68451 is a reply to message #68420] Sun, 27 December 2009 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Close...yellow! <VBG>
Mike

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Re: [GMCnet] Painting new brake calipers or not? [message #68710 is a reply to message #68451] Mon, 28 December 2009 23:43 Go to previous message
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...not as fast as RED,...but it'll do..!
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