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[GMCnet] Gates Barricade Fuel hose [message #67759] Fri, 18 December 2009 10:40 Go to next message
GMC_LES is currently offline  GMC_LES   United States
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JimB posted on this new Ethanol resistant barrier hose a few days ago. I've
been searching for local & online sources and haven't found much. I'm
curious if anyone else has found any sources? I guess I could buy direct
from the CO-OP, but shipping makes the purchase cost go up.



While on the Barricade subject, I found a recall related to this hose. The
recall doesn't specify if the hose itself is at fault due to design faults,
or if the hose was wrongly selected for the application.



http://www.usrecallnews.com/2008/08/nhtsa-1611.html



Hopefully this hose is not subject to failures as described in the recall.



Jim B, I think you need to look into this a little closer to see what the
failure was caused by. Wouldn't want you to recommend a faulty product.



Les Burt

Montreal

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Re: [GMCnet] Gates Barricade Fuel hose [message #67761 is a reply to message #67759] Fri, 18 December 2009 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Les, I could not find it locally either. Had one fail this week, 4 years old. I suspect I could have had a local parts house order it but we are heading to Az. and I don't want to mess with it now. I will check around when we get out west. Id like to replace all of my hoses in front of the tanks with this. I got steel lines on the tank tops.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Gates Barricade Fuel hose [message #67762 is a reply to message #67761] Fri, 18 December 2009 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry Schaffer is currently offline  Larry Schaffer   United States
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Dan,
I found it at Monument car part in Pleasanton Ca.
They have it ordered for stock.
They said it comes in 25' rolls and is $49.99 + tax.
Suppose to be in on 12-21-09.

Larry
73 Painted Desert
Castro Valley, Ca.


On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Les, I could not find it locally either. Had one fail this week, 4 years old. I suspect I could have had a local parts house order it but we are heading to Az. and I don't want to mess with it now. I will check around when we get out west. Id like to replace all of my hoses in front of the tanks with this. I got steel lines on the tank tops.
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Re: [GMCnet] Gates Barricade Fuel hose [message #67766 is a reply to message #67759] Fri, 18 December 2009 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Charles is currently offline  Charles   United States
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It looks to me like the company recalling the kits is doing the
recall not because the hose is bad but because they used
the wrong size for the application. There is nothing wrong
with the Barricade hose and if you do have a problem with
it Gates will stand behind their products. I sent Gates two
feet of bad 3/8 inch hose I replaced in 2001 last year with
my original purchase ticket and they replaced all 50 feet.
No questions asked.
Charles

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From: "Les Burt" <burtco99@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:40 AM
Subject: [GMCnet] Gates Barricade Fuel hose


> JimB posted on this new Ethanol resistant barrier hose a few days ago.
> I've
> been searching for local & online sources and haven't found much. I'm
> curious if anyone else has found any sources? I guess I could buy direct
> from the CO-OP, but shipping makes the purchase cost go up.
>
>
>
> While on the Barricade subject, I found a recall related to this hose. The
> recall doesn't specify if the hose itself is at fault due to design
> faults,
> or if the hose was wrongly selected for the application.
>
>
>
> http://www.usrecallnews.com/2008/08/nhtsa-1611.html
>
>
>
> Hopefully this hose is not subject to failures as described in the recall.
>
>
>
> Jim B, I think you need to look into this a little closer to see what the
> failure was caused by. Wouldn't want you to recommend a faulty product.
>
>
>
> Les Burt
>
> Montreal
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Gates Barricade Fuel hose [message #67800 is a reply to message #67766] Fri, 18 December 2009 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is not the cost of the hose, but the labor time.
Guess who always get stuck with the labor cost.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Charles <gcw13@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> It looks to me like the company recalling the kits is doing the
> recall not because the hose is bad but because they used
> the wrong size for the application. There is nothing wrong
> with the Barricade hose and if you do have a problem with
> it Gates will stand behind their products.  I sent Gates two
> feet of bad 3/8 inch hose I replaced in 2001 last year with
> my original purchase ticket and they replaced all 50 feet.
> No questions asked.
> Charles
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Les Burt" <burtco99@yahoo.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:40 AM
> Subject: [GMCnet] Gates Barricade Fuel hose
>
>
>> JimB posted on this new Ethanol resistant barrier hose a few days ago.
>> I've
>> been searching for local & online sources and haven't found much. I'm
>> curious if anyone else has found any sources? I guess I could buy direct
>> from the CO-OP, but shipping makes the purchase cost go up.
>>
>>
>>
>> While on the Barricade subject, I found a recall related to this hose. The
>> recall doesn't specify if the hose itself is at fault due to design
>> faults,
>> or if the hose was wrongly selected for the application.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.usrecallnews.com/2008/08/nhtsa-1611.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Hopefully this hose is not subject to failures as described in the recall.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim B, I think you need to look into this a little closer to see what the
>> failure was caused by. Wouldn't want you to recommend a faulty product.
>>
>>
>>
>> Les Burt
>>
>> Montreal
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Gates Barricade Fuel hose [message #67843 is a reply to message #67761] Sun, 20 December 2009 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim Bounds is currently offline  Jim Bounds   United States
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you should be able to find it around, my guess is other hose suppliers have stuff similar-- they all do bout the same thing.  I have the stuff here at $2 a foot, can ship it to ya if you like.  let me know,

Jim Bounds
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Les, I could not find it locally either. Had one fail this week, 4 years old. I suspect I could have had a local parts house order it but we are heading to Az. and I don't want to mess with it now. I will check around when we get out west. Id like to replace all of my hoses in front of the tanks with this. I got steel lines on the tank tops.
Dan
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Re: [GMCnet] Gates Barricade Fuel hose [message #67850 is a reply to message #67843] Sun, 20 December 2009 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Jim B. When I get ready to do it I will call you and get it. We are leaving for Az. this week so replacing the hoses is not at the top of my list right now. By purchasing from you I know I got the right stuff.
Thanks,
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Gates Barricade Fuel hose [message #67935 is a reply to message #67850] Mon, 21 December 2009 06:19 Go to previous message
Jim Bounds is currently offline  Jim Bounds   United States
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Thanks Dan, I really don;t see the specialy dealer network to be the only place to get this stuff, I mean you can buy fuel hose all over the place.  it's true it will be the right stuff cause it's what we use and the cost will be comparable when purchased in quantity.

If your coach is not leaking I understand when you say it does not make sense to do it right now.  I would tell you though, keep an eye under your coach when filling the tanks, watch for drips.  The biggest scare I have is a hose crack and suck air under load which will starve the motor acting like a clogged filter.  Cracked hoses is one of those situations you can hunt for hours for a problem when the problem is a hose that leaks under certain conditions.

I am gratified that folks are taking this fuel delivery issue seriously, it has become a % of the work we have coming off the road with people coming down for the season.  Folks all the tiome use "doom & gloom" and scare new and prospective GMC owners-- I did not bring this issue up to do that rather to let those understanding the issue be proactive in preparing themselves for traveling.  If you have the chance, inspect and replace old or damaged hoses, if not at least have parts and tools with you that can help in the time of need.

Jim Bounds
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Jim B. When I get ready to do it I will call you and get it. We are leaving for Az. this week so replacing the hoses is not at the top of my list right now. By purchasing from you I know I got the right stuff.
Thanks,
Dan
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