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Tire pressure monitors [message #66468] Thu, 03 December 2009 09:12 Go to next message
ken is currently offline  ken   United States
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a few months back Ken H had a short piece on TMPS. I am wondering if anybody has added non-oem type monitoring systems on their tires yet.

And Ken H ..did you complete your investigation and with what result.

Thanks




Ken Ecton
74 23' X-CanyonLands/Duramax
64 Corvette Coupe
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Various other drivers Northern Colorado
Re: [GMCnet] Tire pressure monitors [message #66499 is a reply to message #66468] Thu, 03 December 2009 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMCWiperMan is currently offline  GMCWiperMan   United States
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Ken,

I only went far enough into the investigation to learn that there are a lot
of systems being introduced, with the usual exciting claims that probably
will not be completely fulfilled. It didn't take long for me to become
convinced that if I invested in an inventory expecting to sell them as a
hobby or community service, I'd probably be overtaken by falling prices.
That was borne out by the prices I saw at Camping World for a system
similar to what I might have tried -- at a price less than my "wholesale"
price would have been a couple of months ago.

There are systems out there, but I haven't seen enough reports yet to
convince me I should buy one.

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven
www.gmcwipersetc.com


On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:12 AM, ken ecton <kenect@gmail.com> wrote:

> a few months back Ken H had a short piece on TMPS. I am wondering if
> anybody has added non-oem type monitoring systems on their tires yet.
>
> And Ken H ..did you complete your investigation and with what result.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire pressure monitors [message #66507 is a reply to message #66499] Thu, 03 December 2009 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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Hi,
I have the Pressure Pro system on all 6 tires.
http://www.advantagepressurepro.com/. The system also allows you to add
sensors to the towd as well. Installation in pretty easy. On the rear coach
wheels you simply screw the sensors on . In the front however I added 80 mm
calipers and the sensors fouled on the caliper so I had to add 45 degree
metal valve stems to the Eagle Wheels to clear the calipers. I really like
the system. I can easily check tire pressures. Usually there is a 5 lb
increase in the front tires and a 3 lb in the back under normal driving
conditions. Since the system is sensitive to a 5 percent drop in pressure
from the set point often times the system will alert when it is very cold
and the coach is sittng. I suppose using nitrogen would alleviate that
problem. Apparently the life of the batteries in the sensors is three years
but I unplug the power from the control unit and my sensors seem to still be
active and reading after 4 years. The down side is that on my unit the
batteries in the sensors are not user replaceable apparently, and it costs
50 bucks to replace each one which is pretty high.

I know there are some new systems out there that are much cheaper and work
just as well. I have not had an opportunity to use the system in anger for a
low or flattening tire while on the road but have no doubt that unless it is
a catastophic blowout the system would give me enough time to pull over
safely to change the tire.

By the way, I have BFG Commercial TA's on Eagle Wheels.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier




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Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:49 AM
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> Ken,
>
> I only went far enough into the investigation to learn that there are a
> lot
> of systems being introduced, with the usual exciting claims that probably
> will not be completely fulfilled. It didn't take long for me to become
> convinced that if I invested in an inventory expecting to sell them as a
> hobby or community service, I'd probably be overtaken by falling prices.
> That was borne out by the prices I saw at Camping World for a system
> similar to what I might have tried -- at a price less than my "wholesale"
> price would have been a couple of months ago.
>
> There are systems out there, but I haven't seen enough reports yet to
> convince me I should buy one.
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:12 AM, ken ecton <kenect@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> a few months back Ken H had a short piece on TMPS. I am wondering if
>> anybody has added non-oem type monitoring systems on their tires yet.
>>
>> And Ken H ..did you complete your investigation and with what result.
>>
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Tire pressure monitors [message #66552 is a reply to message #66507] Thu, 03 December 2009 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Yep, you are tright Ken. I saw that system over at Bowling Green. Could not believe the price. I bought my system 4 years ago and paid 700 smackers. The whole setup is in the shop now for an "allignment".
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Tire pressure monitors [message #66570 is a reply to message #66552] Thu, 03 December 2009 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMCWiperMan is currently offline  GMCWiperMan   United States
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Out of curiosity, I went to the Camping World web site to see their current
price: $299 for 6 wheels. Then I read the customer reviews:
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/hopkins-tire-pressure-monitoring-system/43965

<http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/hopkins-tire-pressure-monitoring-system/43965>Sure
am GLAD I didn't get involved with them.

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven
www.gmcwipersetc.com


On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Yep, you are tright Ken. I saw that system over at Bowling Green. Could not
> believe the price. I bought my system 4 years ago and paid 700 smackers. The
> whole setup is in the shop now for an "allignment".
> Dan
>
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Re: Tire pressure monitors [message #66576 is a reply to message #66468] Thu, 03 December 2009 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Hmmm, Must be same Chinese that built my last gps puck.
Dan


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Re: Tire pressure monitors [message #66663 is a reply to message #66468] Fri, 04 December 2009 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil   United States
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I purchased the Smart Tire system from Camping World, which has in wheel sensors that report on pressure and temps. Got 8, for the coach and the trailer.

They worked great for about two years. I understand that they I need to go to Camping World and have several of the sensors reset. I have yet to do that.

The temp sensor was a lifesaver. 10 miles from home at the end of a trip cross-country and back, the high temp alert went off for the right rear forward tire. I was tring to avoid a rest stop so close to home, but pulled over with the alert and went to the head, telling my wife to check out the tire outside. Midway through my business she came screaming back that it was on fire. A quick shot of the fire extinguisher put it out, and later diagnosis was a bad bearing that was just about to traumaticly let go.

So I like the device and would recommed it.


Neil
76 Eleganza now sold
Los Angeles
Re: Tire pressure monitors [message #66783 is a reply to message #66663] Mon, 07 December 2009 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hertfordnc is currently offline  hertfordnc   United States
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here's one for $199

http://tinyurl.com/yl9ea74

For that price it would pay for itself if it prevented one blowout.



Dave & Ellen Silva Hertford, NC 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021 It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.

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Re: Tire pressure monitors [message #66786 is a reply to message #66468] Mon, 07 December 2009 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am wondering if anybody has added non-oem type monitoring systems on their tires yet.
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I don't pretend to know much of the tire monitor equipment but I will pass on that when I inquired about them to the mechanic, he said they are not reliable. Thats both OEM and add on.

He said of all repairs or complaints he gets, its the tire monitors. He feels they have a long way to go before they are perfected and become reliable.

LarC ( Who travels with two air pumps and a handy air guage )



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Re: Tire pressure monitors [message #66787 is a reply to message #66786] Mon, 07 December 2009 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry C wrote on Mon, 07 December 2009 13:26



He said of all repairs or complaints he gets, its the tire monitors. He feels they have a long way to go before they are perfected and become reliable.





What is the reliability factor for information that comes anecdotally from mechanics?

I'm not criticizing mechanics, especially not the Oracles of wisdom here who work on GMCs.

But mechanics are biased by several factors. They need to fix things and get them out the door. They mostly serve people who are NOT mechanical.

They can't take a chance on things that are not 100% reliable.

I would consider carefully the criticism of a reliable mechanic but I often feel their advice does not apply to me and I am often right. (and the times i was wrong I'm blaming on my meds)

So, if for $200 I can get something that will give me some data on my tires, it's probably worth it.

Knowing me, the device would compel me to check on it and calibrate it relentlessly thereby making me infinitely more tuned in to my tire pressure than i otherwise would have been.


Dave & Ellen Silva Hertford, NC 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021 It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
Re: Tire pressure monitors [message #66788 is a reply to message #66468] Mon, 07 December 2009 14:04 Go to previous message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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You have it pretty well figured out Dave. I check mine a lot more now with the system than I did before. I got the Tire Sentry as Arch had it on his and was the only one that user can change batteries. 3 year warranty. Mine are 4 years old now and at the factory. They are going over it good for me, under "warranty". I have found the company to be pretty attentive to my needs. Not cheap though. My monitor has a GMC and toad on it so they do know about GMC wheel setup and make one just for it. 700 bux for 10 transmitters and the monitor.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Tire pressure monitors [message #66887 is a reply to message #66783] Mon, 07 December 2009 13:47 Go to previous message
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Dave,

I got:

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Suggestions:
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.Search on Google:

Google Toolbar Help - Why am I seeing this page?

C2009 Google - Google Home

Please advise website name so we can try finding the system.

Thanks,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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here's one for $199

http://tinyurl.com/yl9ea74


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