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rscortezzo is currently offline  rscortezzo   United States
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Now that I have gotten my Eagle center hubs rims from Jim,
what brand of tires have you guys had any luck with?


Jim says to stay away from steel belts in the sidewalls.
Any input will help me a lot.

Rich Cortezzo
1978 Eleganza II


Rich Cortezzo
Green Valley AZ
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Re: Tires [message #66377 is a reply to message #66376] Wed, 02 December 2009 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rich, I'm running BFG ragwall from Costco. Not that many miles on them but they are holding up well.

geo groth '73 260 Sequoia Carson City Nevada 89703
Re: Tires [message #66378 is a reply to message #66376] Wed, 02 December 2009 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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That question will give you as many answers there are tire brands.

IF you want to spend a lot of money then buy Michelin.

A lot of people buy BF Goodrich from Sam's or Costco.

If you want more traction on dirt and grass then go with the Kuhmo Road Venture AT. Mine were less than $100 each. I have them and so does Rob Mueller. The off pavement traction is excellant.

So there you have three choices. Next people will add Goodyeat, Cooper, Bridgestone, and a couple of Chinese brands.

I would not worry about tread life. Most people throw the tires away after 5 to 10 years due to age not because they are worn out.

Good luck making a decision.

Ken B.


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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #66379 is a reply to message #66377] Wed, 02 December 2009 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Rich,

I followed Ken Burton's lead and got Khumo Road Venture KL78 tires for
Double Trouble in the USA. I have put around 7000 miles on them in the past
two years with no problems. I use Equal balancing beads in the tires.

http://tinyurl.com/y8ogq3e

http://www.kumhousa.com/Tire.aspx?id=8ce40218-bc5c-47d0-ac9c-3207a8c1c3a3&ca
t=25

I got them from the Tire Rack.

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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Re: Tires [message #66380 is a reply to message #66376] Wed, 02 December 2009 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rich,
BFGoodrich Commercial TA E range will give you good service at a reasonable price. They are the ragwalls that you want. Sam's Club and others carry them. You are close to Steve F. Give him a call. He will give you a good straight answer on tires.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #66387 is a reply to message #66376] Wed, 02 December 2009 16:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rick Denney is currently offline  Rick Denney   United States
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Richard B Cortezzo writes...

> Jim says to stay away from steel belts in the sidewalls.

What you want to avoid are "all-steel" tires. All tires have steel
belts nowadays. You don't want a steel fabric cord.

I have had good luck with cheapie tires found by my local tire guy,
and others have had good luck with Kumho tires. Still others like the
BF Goodrich Commercial T/A tires. I have a bias against Firestone but
I'm not too much concerned beyond that, as long as the tires are
steel-belted, polyester sidewall construction and not all-steel.

Rick "thinking inflation is also important" Denney

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Re: Tires [message #66393 is a reply to message #66376] Wed, 02 December 2009 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought the kuhmo tires at tire rack 80 dollars a tire.

Rich Cortezzo


Rich Cortezzo
Green Valley AZ
1978 Eleganza II F389018
Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #66397 is a reply to message #66393] Wed, 02 December 2009 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Rich,

I sure hope you didn't buy:

225/75R16
Load Index 104 = 1984lbs (900kg) per tire
Speed Rating "S" = 112mph (180kph)

If you check your Operating manual you will find that the front GAWR is
4,200 lb. Two of the tires above are rated at 3968 lb.

The Khumo's I have are:

225/75R16
Load Index 115 = 2721lbs (1237kg) per tire
Load Index 112 = 2484lbs (1129kg) per tire
Speed Rating "Q" = 99mph (160kph)

They cost $100 each.

Reference:

http://tinyurl.com/ygqnwh9

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Kumho&model=Road+Venture+AT+KL7
8

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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I bought the kuhmo tires at tire rack 80 dollars a tire.

Rich Cortezzo
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[GMCnet] palm beach dinette [message #66405 is a reply to message #66397] Wed, 02 December 2009 19:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marcel Bourgon is currently offline  Marcel Bourgon   United States
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Good afternoon from Snowy El Paso.
Would like to do something with my two benches and folding table. Probably
two chairs and folding table. How about some ideas.
thanks
Marcel in El Paso
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> Rich,
>
> I sure hope you didn't buy:
>
> 225/75R16
> Load Index 104 = 1984lbs (900kg) per tire
> Speed Rating "S" = 112mph (180kph)
>
> If you check your Operating manual you will find that the front GAWR is
> 4,200 lb. Two of the tires above are rated at 3968 lb.
>
> The Khumo's I have are:
>
> 225/75R16
> Load Index 115 = 2721lbs (1237kg) per tire
> Load Index 112 = 2484lbs (1129kg) per tire
> Speed Rating "Q" = 99mph (160kph)
>
> They cost $100 each.
>
> Reference:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ygqnwh9
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Kumho&model=Road+Venture+AT+KL7
> 8
>
> Regards,
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
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>
>
> I bought the kuhmo tires at tire rack 80 dollars a tire.
>
> Rich Cortezzo
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Re: [GMCnet] palm beach dinette [message #66407 is a reply to message #66405] Wed, 02 December 2009 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marcel,

Apparently you selected REPLY to Rob's message about tires. THAT's how
thread are broken and polluted. If you're changing the subject, it's
essential that you start a fresh message, NOT REPLY.

Broken threads don't mean much to those of us who use the original email
GMCNet, but those who participate through the Forum lose track of the
conversation.

We have to have this conversation from time to time to keep everyone
educated.

Ken H.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Marcel Bourgon <mjbourgon@earthlink.net>wrote:

> Good afternoon from Snowy El Paso.
> Would like to do something with my two benches and folding table. Probably
> two chairs and folding table. How about some ideas.
> thanks
> Marcel in El Paso
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tires
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Re: [GMCnet] palm beach dinette [message #66432 is a reply to message #66407] Wed, 02 December 2009 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GMCWiperMan wrote on Wed, 02 December 2009 18:23

Marcel,

Apparently you selected REPLY to Rob's message about tires. THAT's how
thread are broken and polluted. If you're changing the subject, it's
essential that you start a fresh message, NOT REPLY.

Broken threads don't mean much to those of us who use the original email
GMCNet, but those who participate through the Forum lose track of the
conversation.

We have to have this conversation from time to time to keep everyone
educated.

Ken H.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Marcel Bourgon <mjbourgon@earthlink.net>wrote:

> Good afternoon from Snowy El Paso.
> Would like to do something with my two benches and folding table. Probably
> two chairs and folding table. How about some ideas.
> thanks
> Marcel in El Paso
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tires
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I second that. Doing that kills the sequence of the conversation and makes it frustrating to follow, so much that when a thread is split, I quit.


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Re: [GMCnet] palm beach dinette [message #66444 is a reply to message #66432] Thu, 03 December 2009 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> * so much that when a thread is split, I quit.*
>

lets don't start this again,

Since there are no rules, When this happens, just start a new thread, with
the correct title.

It is always good to start fresh, and get rid of the previous 435 posts ;>)
I prefer more threads, than longer threads.

gene




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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #66449 is a reply to message #66393] Thu, 03 December 2009 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Were those "E" rated?  Man, that is an unbelievable price compared to Bridgestone & Michelins being over $200 each!  I am also using the offshore times, they work well in our application.

Jim Bounds
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I bought the kuhmo tires at tire rack 80 dollars a tire.

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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #66452 is a reply to message #66449] Thu, 03 December 2009 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim,

I sent the following message:

Rich,

I sure hope you didn't buy:

225/75R16
Load Index 104 = 1984lbs (900kg) per tire
Speed Rating "S" = 112mph (180kph)

If you check your Operating manual you will find that the front GAWR is
4,200 lb. Two of the tires above are rated at 3968 lb.

The Khumo's I have are:

225/75R16
Load Index 115 = 2721lbs (1237kg) per tire
Load Index 112 = 2484lbs (1129kg) per tire
Speed Rating "Q" = 99mph (160kph)

They cost $100 each.

Reference:

http://tinyurl.com/ygqnwh9


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Kumho&model=Road+Venture+AT+KL7
8

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Were those "E" rated?  Man, that is an unbelievable price compared to
Bridgestone & Michelins being over $200 each!  I am also using the offshore
times, they work well in our application.

Jim Bounds
--------------------------



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I bought the kuhmo tires at tire rack 80 dollars a tire.

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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #66453 is a reply to message #66449] Thu, 03 December 2009 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just saw BJG's on closeout at Tire Rack for something like $68. I'm not in the position to buy them at the moment, but someone might.
Gary



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Were those "E" rated? Man, that is an unbelievable price compared to Bridgestone & Michelins being over $200 each! I am also using the offshore times, they work well in our application.

Jim Bounds
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Re: Tires [message #66566 is a reply to message #66376] Thu, 03 December 2009 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When you buy tires off the internet, do you pay tax and what is the average installation price?

Are fresh tires that are cheaper better for coaches that don't get alot of miles, or are the cheaper tires a risk not worth taking? In short are you better off with a set of Hirohito 1000's that you change every 4-5 years than a set of Michelins that you try to stretch to 8-9 years?



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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #66580 is a reply to message #66566] Thu, 03 December 2009 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Randy,

If you try to stretch those Michelins for 8-9 years, be prepared
to do some damage repair.
I lost three at six years and the last one was one the spare tire
rack. Never again!

Gary Kosier
77EII & 77PB
Newark, Ohio

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>
>
> When you buy tires off the internet, do you pay tax and what is
> the average installation price?
>
> Are fresh tires that are cheaper better for coaches that don't
> get alot of miles, or are the cheaper tires a risk not worth
> taking? In short are you better off with a set of Hirohito
> 1000's that you change every 4-5 years than a set of Michelins
> that you try to stretch to 8-9 years?
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #66581 is a reply to message #66566] Thu, 03 December 2009 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Randy,

My Kuhmo's were mounted by Ken Frey when we were getting it ready last year.
I can't remember what he charged me to mount and toss four ounces of Equal
into each tire. I'd say to get tires you get off the internet mounted you
would have to go to a local garage that didn't sell tires for a living and I
think I'd find a shop that would mount them BEFORE I bought them!

When I bought Double Trouble it had a set of steel sidewall Goodyear G159's
on it that were over 7 years old. They had heaps of thread and the sidewalls
looked like new. I hemmed and hawed and finally Steve Ferguson hit the nail
on the head when he said; "the Goodyear 159's will probably be fine BUT
you're going to worry for the whole trip that one might let go." I realized
that he was right so replaced them.

When the Kuhmo's arrived I was surprised to discover that they were made in
CHINA as Kuhmo is a Korean company.

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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Sent: Friday, 4 December 2009 2:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tires

When you buy tires off the internet, do you pay tax and what is the average
installation price?

Are fresh tires that are cheaper better for coaches that don't get alot of
miles, or are the cheaper tires a risk not worth taking? In short are you
better off with a set of Hirohito 1000's that you change every 4-5 years
than a set of Michelins that you try to stretch to 8-9 years?

--
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1973 26' Painted Desert
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Re: [GMCnet] Tires [message #66584 is a reply to message #66581] Thu, 03 December 2009 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 03 December 2009 23:07

Randy,

My Kuhmo's were mounted by Ken Frey when we were getting it ready last year.
I can't remember what he charged me to mount and toss four ounces of Equal
into each tire. I'd say to get tires you get off the internet mounted you
would have to go to a local garage that didn't sell tires for a living and I
think I'd find a shop that would mount them BEFORE I bought them!

When I bought Double Trouble it had a set of steel sidewall Goodyear G159's
on it that were over 7 years old. They had heaps of thread and the sidewalls
looked like new. I hemmed and hawed and finally Steve Ferguson hit the nail
on the head when he said; "the Goodyear 159's will probably be fine BUT
you're going to worry for the whole trip that one might let go." I realized
that he was right so replaced them.

When the Kuhmo's arrived I was surprised to discover that they were made in
CHINA as Kuhmo is a Korean company.

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Randy
Sent: Friday, 4 December 2009 2:13 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tires

When you buy tires off the internet, do you pay tax and what is the average
installation price?

Are fresh tires that are cheaper better for coaches that don't get alot of
miles, or are the cheaper tires a risk not worth taking? In short are you
better off with a set of Hirohito 1000's that you change every 4-5 years
than a set of Michelins that you try to stretch to 8-9 years?

--
Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ



If you go on their web site you can enter your location and they will give you installers in your area. I have also found that most, if not all, Wal-marts will mount and balance them for $10.00. each. They also include a new valve but I do not know if they have the correct valves for Eagles or Alcoas so you probably should bring your own. I have Equal in mine instead of having them balanced. They did not care about the Equal I supplied. They just throw in the bag but be sure to tell them no weights.

If you are in the area of South Bend, Tire Rack will also mount and balance them at their store. I had two done on my Colorado truck on the way to the GMC Eastern States rally this fall.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Robert

Thanks for the heads up. I did get the wrong tires,
but was able to get the correct tires. Tire Rack seems
like a good place to shop for tires. Great service and
they won't sell the wrong tires.

Rich Cortezzo
1978 Eleganza II


Rich Cortezzo
Green Valley AZ
1978 Eleganza II F389018
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