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| Alum wheels [message #65931] |
Sun, 29 November 2009 12:11  |
rscortezzo
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I am going to change to 16 in. wheeel's.
I need some advice as to where to buy and what brand,
ALCOA or Eagle? Or any others.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Rich Cortezzo
1978 Eleganza II
Rich Cortezzo
Green Valley AZ
1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels [message #65932 is a reply to message #65931] |
Sun, 29 November 2009 12:29  |
jimk
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Rich,
You know we handle both the Alcoa and American Eagle.
Alcoa is always a first choice, but the cost becomes a factor for most.
We feel that we have an alternative, the Hub centered American Eagle.
Alcoa's go for $310/wheel complete w/Lug not and cover , center cap,valve stem.
Amer. Eagle Hub centered goes for $202.50/wheel complete with lug nuts
,center caps and valve stems.
We also carry the non hub centered Amer. Eagle for $179.95/wheel w/accessoies.
Go to our web site www.appliedgmc.com
We ship from California sothe freight charges are not bad.
Should you have any questions , call us this morning as I am here.(800)752-7502
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Richard B Cortezzo
<rscortezzo@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I am going to change to 16 in. wheeel's.
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> I need some advice as to where to buy and what brand,
> ALCOA or Eagle? Or any others.
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> Thanks in advance for any advice.
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> Rich Cortezzo
> 1978 Eleganza II
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> Rich Cortezzo
> Green Valley AZ
> 1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: Alum wheels [message #65935 is a reply to message #65931] |
Sun, 29 November 2009 12:36 |
Mitch
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| rscortezzo wrote on Sun, 29 November 2009 10:11 |
I am going to change to 16 in. wheeel's.
I need some advice as to where to buy and what brand,
ALCOA or Eagle? Or any others.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Rich Cortezzo
1978 Eleganza II
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Go to Applied GMC and check them out. They have both brands, and as to which, that depends on your preferences and budget.
Mitch
Tacoma, Wa.
'80 Spitfire
'03 Windstar
'77 Jaguar XJ6-C
X(very)'76 PB 26 "The Beast"
Where it rains, always.
It's wet, No sun, Gray.
Go to Oregon.
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| Re: Alum wheels [message #65940 is a reply to message #65935] |
Sun, 29 November 2009 13:25 |
Ron
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Hi..
Mitch is right.. Call Jim K he is a great guy and a big supporter of the GMC community!
Ron Husak
now a P.O.
Conifer, CO
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels [message #65950 is a reply to message #65943] |
Sun, 29 November 2009 14:12 |
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Jim,
I remember you telling me that Alcoa was going to discontinue making 16"
wheels for our GMC when I was at the COOP early this year.
The subject came up recently and I posted that information to the GMCnet.
In response to that someone else posted that he contacted Alcoa and they
said they were not going to discontinue the GMC wheels.
Would you, Jim K or somebody check into this and confirm it as of today.
Thanks,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim Bounds
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 6:42 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels
As I see it, if Alcoa does not feel we are enough of a market to even keep
one out of the 3 styles of their rims current for us-- why should I go out
of my way to do anything for them! I use and promote the Eagle rims Jim K.
has, at least he and Eagle DO support our community! I have laced up the
Eagles on new offshore Nexen tires, trued and balanced them and run solo
cross country--- was an awesome ride. No problems, issues or anything--
matter of fact I forgot all about them and never thought twice about the
perfect ride. I think that is the best testimonial you can hope for. So
let Alcoa keep those last rims on their shelves, support Eagle or we will
have no rim supplier-- Alcoa has already given up on us!
Jim Bounds
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From: rhusak <rhusak@compuserve.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sun, November 29, 2009 2:25:09 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels
Hi..
Mitch is right.. Call Jim K he is a great guy and a big supporter of the GMC
community!
Ron Husak
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Conifer, CO
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: Alum wheels [message #65984 is a reply to message #65931] |
Sun, 29 November 2009 17:57 |
JohnL455
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I never thought they made them for "us" in the the first place. They are for 8 lug duelly P/Us. Sorry to hear that they won't be making them. Of course what really IS still made here in USA?
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels [message #66005 is a reply to message #65995] |
Sun, 29 November 2009 19:23 |
jimk
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Alcoa use to stock these wheels in Ohio plant, now they are cutting
back by not stocking them. It just means that we do not get the fast
turn around that we use to get on these 16" rims.
Due to slow demand on Alcoa wheels, we do not stock but 2-4 sets.
We have 26-30 sets of American Eagle at the warehouse.
On 11/29/09, dennisfsexton@aol.com <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
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> The Classic wheels are still on Alcoa.com -- under automotive products --
> 160231 product number.
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> 73 GMC
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Sun, Nov 29, 2009 6:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels
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> John,
> This is why I think Jim B may be mistaken in saying they won't be making
> hem any more.
> Regards,
> ob Mueller
> ydney, Australia
> US '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> SA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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> mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of John R. Lebetski
> ent: Monday, 30 November 2009 10:58 AM
> o: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> ubject: Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels
> I never thought they made them for "us" in the the first place. They are for
> lug duelly P/Us. Sorry to hear that they won't be making them. Of course
> hat really IS still made here in USA?
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> ohn Lebetski
> hicago, IL
> 7 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels [message #66045 is a reply to message #65992] |
Mon, 30 November 2009 06:06 |
Jim Bounds
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Yes, to say they will "never" make them may not be true, I don;t know their business and yes, everything is built in production runs. The point I am making is when Jim K. approached Eagle, they stepped up to the plate with his order and produced wheels just for our market and no one else. They did this with a lower cost than Alcoa and did it without the massive commitment Alcoa would have demanded to do a production run. I have to say Eagle made a bold move for us, Jim K. jumped out there realizing that if the community did not do something we all would be sitting around begging Alcoa for rims and thats just not a good place to be. Eagle is our boy, for those watching the cost they are less, for those wanting to switch to 16" tires they are here now and after so much testing I am convinced they work well for our application.
Having to be at the suppliers feet for parts, whenever a supplier does something that helps us I naturally do what I can to help them. It is a large commitment especially with the economy the way it is for a mass producer to accomodate a niche market, we as those they seek to help should in turn support them and that is my point. Eagle along with Jim K. deserves our support in investing what I would see as considerable dollars in a scary time to have rims for us all-- I buy Jim's Eagles and I feel we all should. Heck, he is sitting on a mound of aluminum, I sure don;t want his CPA to tell him his investment was a bad one!
Buy Eagle, it's good for the community,
Jim Bounds
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----- Original Message ----
From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sun, November 29, 2009 7:49:47 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels
John,
This is why I think Jim B may be mistaken in saying they won't be making
them any more.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of John R. Lebetski
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 10:58 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels
I never thought they made them for "us" in the the first place. They are for
8 lug duelly P/Us. Sorry to hear that they won't be making them. Of course
what really IS still made here in USA?
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John Lebetski
Chicago, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels [message #66053 is a reply to message #65932] |
Mon, 30 November 2009 07:22 |
Gary Casey
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Jim,
Okay, but if we need "hub-centered" wheels how do the non hub-centered wheels work? Why are they so much cheaper? Just curious.
Gary
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From: Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sun, November 29, 2009 11:29:52 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels
Rich,
You know we handle both the Alcoa and American Eagle.
Alcoa is always a first choice, but the cost becomes a factor for most.
We feel that we have an alternative, the Hub centered American Eagle.
Alcoa's go for $310/wheel complete w/Lug not and cover , center cap,valve stem.
Amer. Eagle Hub centered goes for $202.50/wheel complete with lug nuts
,center caps and valve stems.
We also carry the non hub centered Amer. Eagle for $179.95/wheel w/accessoies.
Go to our web site www.appliedgmc.com
We ship from California sothe freight charges are not bad.
Should you have any questions , call us this morning as I am here.(800)752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels [message #66071 is a reply to message #66053] |
Mon, 30 November 2009 08:41 |
Jim Bounds
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I hear ya brother and I too was concerned about it-- "if it's too cheap to be true-- it probably is" and all that. Thats why I laced up a set, trued them up and rolled them to Bakersfield. If there was a problem I would be in Jim K.s back door and would be close enough to do damage-- as it turned out, the new owner of the coach is keeping both the offshore tires AND the Eagles. has made several trips since I dropped off the coach and has nad no troubles. The rims are rated for the wieght and the manufacturer has assured us there would be no problems--- and I have found them to be right!
So as they say on the "Myth Busters" show, that theory is busted! At least I've done my best to check it out,
Jim Bounds
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----- Original Message ----
From: Gary Casey <casey.gary@yahoo.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 8:22:07 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels
Jim,
Okay, but if we need "hub-centered" wheels how do the non hub-centered wheels work? Why are they so much cheaper? Just curious.
Gary
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From: Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sun, November 29, 2009 11:29:52 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels
Rich,
You know we handle both the Alcoa and American Eagle.
Alcoa is always a first choice, but the cost becomes a factor for most.
We feel that we have an alternative, the Hub centered American Eagle.
Alcoa's go for $310/wheel complete w/Lug not and cover , center cap,valve stem.
Amer. Eagle Hub centered goes for $202.50/wheel complete with lug nuts
,center caps and valve stems.
We also carry the non hub centered Amer. Eagle for $179.95/wheel w/accessoies.
Go to our web site www.appliedgmc.com
We ship from California sothe freight charges are not bad.
Should you have any questions , call us this morning as I am here.(800)752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels [message #66092 is a reply to message #66053] |
Mon, 30 November 2009 11:35 |
jimk
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The standard wheels are non hub centered (Amer. Eagle)
They are readily available and we do not have money tied up on them .
The hub centered ones are more expensive as they are made for us only
and there is a tooling cost in there. On the hub centered wheels, we
supply the SS center caps.
The non hub centered comes with the standard chromed caps.
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Gary Casey <casey.gary@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jim,
> Okay, but if we need "hub-centered" wheels how do the non hub-centered wheels work? Why are they so much cheaper? Just curious.
> Gary
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> From: Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Sun, November 29, 2009 11:29:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels
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> Rich,
> You know we handle both the Alcoa and American Eagle.
> Alcoa is always a first choice, but the cost becomes a factor for most.
> We feel that we have an alternative, the Hub centered American Eagle.
> Alcoa's go for $310/wheel complete w/Lug not and cover , center cap,valve stem.
> Amer. Eagle Hub centered goes for $202.50/wheel complete with lug nuts
> ,center caps and valve stems.
> We also carry the non hub centered Amer. Eagle for $179.95/wheel w/accessoies.
> Go to our web site www.appliedgmc.com
> We ship from California sothe freight charges are not bad.
> Should you have any questions , call us this morning as I am here.(800)752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels [message #66115 is a reply to message #66092] |
Mon, 30 November 2009 13:51 |
C Boyd
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[quote title=jimk wrote on Mon, 30 November 2009 12:35]The standard wheels are non hub centered (Amer. Eagle)
They are readily available and we do not have money tied up on them .
The hub centered ones are more expensive as they are made for us only
and there is a tooling cost in there. On the hub centered wheels, we
supply the SS center caps.
The non hub centered comes with the standard chromed caps.
Jim does the Eagle hub centered wheel use the same shouldered lug bolts as the stud centered wheel or does it share the washer type lug bolts with the Alcoa?
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels [message #66132 is a reply to message #66092] |
Mon, 30 November 2009 16:09 |
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Jim Kanomata writes...
> The non hub centered comes with the standard chromed caps.
I didn't realize that this was the case. The set of stainless caps is
about $75-100, so figure that into the price of the non-hub-centered
version. You will definitely want the stainless caps--the plated caps
are as poorly plated as the nuts and they only look good for a little
while before they start rusting.
Rick "who replaced his center caps" Denney
'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels [message #66133 is a reply to message #66053] |
Mon, 30 November 2009 16:07 |
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Gary Casey writes...
> Jim,
> Okay, but if we need "hub-centered" wheels how do the non
> hub-centered wheels work? Why are they so much cheaper? Just curious.
The non-hub-centered wheels work fine. They are a little harder to
install because you have to lift the wheel to get the first bolt or
two lined up for the sleeve to slip into the hole ont he wheel. The
hub-centered Eagle will rest on the hub and will therefore be easier
to line up for starting that first lug nut. In use, both are
completely fine. They both use the same sleeved mag-wheel nuts which
are designed to provide tight alignment of the wheel.
The non-hub-centered versions are cheaper because they are a standard
product in American Eagle's line, while the hub-centered versions are
specially made for Jim.
Rick "who has the non-hub-centered versions with no issue except that
the lug nuts are poorly plated and rust too easily" Denney
'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alum wheels [message #66135 is a reply to message #66115] |
Mon, 30 November 2009 16:10 |
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Charles Boyd writes...
> Jim does the Eagle hub centered wheel use the same shouldered lug
> bolts as the stud centered wheel or does it share the washer type lug bolts with the Alcoa?
Both the Eagle wheels use the same sleeved mag-wheel nuts.
Rick "only the Alcoa uses the Alcoa-style nut" Denney
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