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[GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65290] Sun, 22 November 2009 13:03 Go to next message
jhsilva19 is currently offline  jhsilva19   United States
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what would be a comfortable weight to tow ? attempting to determine what towd to purchase ..

J Silva
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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65296 is a reply to message #65290] Sun, 22 November 2009 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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Personally I would try to stay under 3000 lbs. Some tow heavier vehicles.
Geo Tracker/Samurai are popular as are Saturns, VW bugs, smaller Toyota,
Some of the new Ford and Toyota sun compacts look good. And then there is
the Smart Car. Pre 1990 Trackers weighed about 1900 lbs and you can figure
an extra 100 lbs per year after that up until 1997.

I've been giving a lot of thought to this towing deal. If I was going on a
long trip to a destination I would consider renting something when I got
there. Enterprise Car Rental is pretty much everywhere. They pick you up,
the cars are cheap and the cost of the extra fuel saved ,at least in my case
would make this a toss up as opposed to towing.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier


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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65299 is a reply to message #65296] Sun, 22 November 2009 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greetings.



I just signed up for this group, having been interested in the GMC

motorhome since they were first introduced. At that time, they

were FAR beyond my Air Force salary to even consider. I settled

for an Apache tent camper trailer for many years.



Now that I am approaching retirement (age 72 next April), I

have a big question regarding suitability for MY requirements.

The referenced subject is of considerable importance to me,

as wife and I each ride Harley motorcycles and any motorcoach

that would interest us would necessarily need to be capable of

hauling a trailer with both bikes aboard.



We are pretty accustomed to keeping weight down in our 30'

travel trailer towed by a 2004 F-250SD pickup, so my basic query

is how much weight can be safely towed by a GMC motorhome.


D C "Mac" & Judy Macdonald

(K2GKK & KA5BJS)

Oklahoma City, OK


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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65304 is a reply to message #65299] Sun, 22 November 2009 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMCWiperMan is currently offline  GMCWiperMan   United States
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Mac,

Welcome aboard! We'll even help you find a GMC. :-)

MANY of us routinely tow 3000#-4000# cars 4-down. We have one owner who has
routinely towed a 10,000#+ race car trailer all over the country. Several
carry motorcycles on rear mounts. Towing a 2-motorcycle trailer should be
no problem at all.

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven
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On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:17 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:

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> ...The referenced subject is of considerable importance to me,
>
> as wife and I each ride Harley motorcycles and any motorcoach
>
> that would interest us would necessarily need to be capable of
>
> hauling a trailer with both bikes aboard.
> ...
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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65307 is a reply to message #65304] Sun, 22 November 2009 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Mac, good to have you here. I see yall are radio operators. A bunch of us on here. You won't have any trouble towing an enclosed trailer with 2 hawgs. Grab a new final drive from Jim K and you can do it with no problems.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65308 is a reply to message #65290] Sun, 22 November 2009 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The lighter the better but that said, I have seen some pull 4000#
plus. We first towed a 91 2dr 4wd tracker and it weight at about
1900#. Next is was a 4wd 4dr 2001 tracker at about 2850#. Our latest
towed is a Honda FIT which is towed 4 down and weight in at just under
2500# and some have even towed the Smart Car which is under 2000#.
IMHO I think that the Honda FIT is the best bang for the dollar with a
lot of space inside at this time. When we were at the Dothan GMCMHI
rally we got all sorts of comments on the FIT as a towed. Also as
said the VW bug is light as well as the early Saturn's. The Saturn
VUE towed by several I know but it is in the 3600# range and the 07
and earlier are better

J.R. Wright



> what would be a comfortable weight to tow ? attempting to determine
> what towd to purchase ..
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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65318 is a reply to message #65299] Sun, 22 November 2009 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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k2gkk wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 15:17


Greetings.




D C "Mac" & Judy Macdonald

(K2GKK & KA5BJS)

Oklahoma City, OK


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Heh, From one Mac to another, Welcome.
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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65356 is a reply to message #65290] Mon, 23 November 2009 00:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There were toad's of all sizes and shapes at the Pueblo rally but the topper was a bodacious 57 Chevy in an enclosed cargo trailer. The owner figured it topped off at over 7000 pounds.

Glenn Giere


Glenn Giere, Portland OR, K7GAG '73 "Moby the Motorhome" 26'
Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65362 is a reply to message #65299] Mon, 23 November 2009 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mac,
Welcome.
I have been driving a GMC and towing a vehicle for 15 years or so now.
I started out with a Metro, 1,600 lbs. Scarey at first because I
couldn't tell or feel it back there. After a few years, we switched
to a 2002 Honda Civic. Another perfect vehicle to tow at 2,300 lbs.
I can tell it's back there and I always hook up the Brake Buddy as the
GMC stops better using that while towing, than it does if I don't hook
it up. 1,400 lbs (est.) for two harleys and a single axle trailer
weighs less than most small cars that can be towed so I would not even
worry about it. I have on occasion towed an enclosed, single axle,
12' Wells Cargo trailer. I can tell it's back there because of the
wind resistance. The new ones have aerodynamic noses on them so I
imagine that is a non issue. There have been a few times when I
wished I had brakes on the trailer though so that might be a
consideration if you choose to do this.


have a big question regarding suitability for MY requirements.
The referenced subject is of considerable importance to me,
as wife and I each ride Harley motorcycles and any motorcoach
that would interest us would necessarily need to be capable of
hauling a trailer with both bikes aboard.

--
Steve Ferguson
'76 EII
Sierra Vista, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65371 is a reply to message #65362] Mon, 23 November 2009 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sandra Price is currently offline  Sandra Price   United States
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We tow a 91 2-dr. 4-wd automatic Tracker. Had it weighed: 2645 lbs. We
towed it from Huntsville to Santa Rosa, north through Oregon, Washington,
BC, The Yukon, Alaska and back in 2008. No problems.

However, since I get to ride in the back, I've been wanting to get a newer
4-door towd... Bob keep saying anything else weighs too much; however, when
I saw that big enclosed trailer hauling that beautiful 57 Chevy convertible
come into the Fairgrounds at Pueblo (must have had to cross at least one
mountain pass to get there), I thought--hey, something's wrong with this
picture. We've also seen the Saturn Vues being towed and, just recently,
friends drove into the RV Park in San Antonio towing a Chevy Trailblazer (he
had a 455 engine; so do we). Again, I'm still wanting something bigger,
more comfortable. Maybe it's just what one is willing to put up with...

Sandra Price

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:

> Mac,
> Welcome.
> I have been driving a GMC and towing a vehicle for 15 years or so now.
> I started out with a Metro, 1,600 lbs. Scarey at first because I
> couldn't tell or feel it back there. After a few years, we switched
> to a 2002 Honda Civic. Another perfect vehicle to tow at 2,300 lbs.
> I can tell it's back there and I always hook up the Brake Buddy as the
> GMC stops better using that while towing, than it does if I don't hook
> it up. 1,400 lbs (est.) for two harleys and a single axle trailer
> weighs less than most small cars that can be towed so I would not even
> worry about it. I have on occasion towed an enclosed, single axle,
> 12' Wells Cargo trailer. I can tell it's back there because of the
> wind resistance. The new ones have aerodynamic noses on them so I
> imagine that is a non issue. There have been a few times when I
> wished I had brakes on the trailer though so that might be a
> consideration if you choose to do this.
>
>
> have a big question regarding suitability for MY requirements.
> The referenced subject is of considerable importance to me,
> as wife and I each ride Harley motorcycles and any motorcoach
> that would interest us would necessarily need to be capable of
> hauling a trailer with both bikes aboard.
>
> --
> Steve Ferguson
> '76 EII
> Sierra Vista, AZ
> Urethane bushing source
> www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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’73 Painted Desert
Huntsville, TX

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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65372 is a reply to message #65371] Mon, 23 November 2009 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Sandra,
Yeah, that short wheelbase the Trackers have sure makes for a choppy
ride. That's why we sold ours. Running good tires at minimum
inflation pressures (thanks Gary W.) did help the ride quite a bit
though. Dan and Terry Gregg tow Vibe, which, I think, is the same as
what you're considering, and they seem to have no problems. The also
travel a lot of secondary roads. I believe they have the 3.70 final
drive and that's a big plus for towing anything.
Hard to beat the ride quality, performance, mileage and handling of
the Honda Civic. At 2,300 lbs it's a pleasure to tow. It is only
nicer towing nothing.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Sandra Price <bsprice9359@gmail.com> wrote:
> We tow a 91 2-dr. 4-wd automatic Tracker.  Had it weighed:  2645 lbs.  We
> towed it from Huntsville to Santa Rosa, north through Oregon, Washington,
> BC, The Yukon, Alaska and back in 2008.  No problems.
>
> However, since I get to ride in the back, I've been wanting to get a newer
> 4-door towd...  Bob keep saying anything else weighs too much; however, when
> I saw that big enclosed trailer hauling that beautiful 57 Chevy convertible
> come into the Fairgrounds at Pueblo (must have had to cross at least one
> mountain pass to get there), I thought--hey, something's wrong with this
> picture.  We've also seen the Saturn Vues being towed and, just recently,
> friends drove into the RV Park in San Antonio towing a Chevy Trailblazer (he
> had a 455 engine; so do we).  Again, I'm still wanting something bigger,
> more comfortable.  Maybe it's just what one is willing to put up with...
>
> Sandra Price
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Mac,
>>  Welcome.
>> I have been driving a GMC and towing a vehicle for 15 years or so now.
>>  I started out with a Metro, 1,600 lbs.  Scarey at first because I
>> couldn't tell or feel it back there.  After a few years, we switched
>> to a 2002 Honda Civic.  Another perfect vehicle to tow at 2,300 lbs.
>> I can tell it's back there and I always hook up the Brake Buddy as the
>> GMC stops better using that while towing, than it does if I don't hook
>> it up.   1,400 lbs (est.) for two harleys and a single axle trailer
>> weighs less than most small cars that can be towed so I would not even
>> worry about it.  I have on occasion towed an enclosed, single axle,
>> 12' Wells Cargo trailer.  I can tell it's back there because of the
>> wind resistance.  The new ones have aerodynamic noses on them so I
>> imagine that is a non issue.  There have been a few times when I
>> wished I had brakes on the trailer though so that might be a
>> consideration if you choose to do this.
>>
>>
>>  have a big question regarding suitability for MY requirements.
>> The referenced subject is of considerable importance to me,
>> as wife and I each ride Harley motorcycles and any motorcoach
>> that would interest us would necessarily need to be capable of
>> hauling a trailer with both bikes aboard.
>>
>> --
>> Steve Ferguson
>> '76 EII
>> Sierra Vista, AZ
>> Urethane bushing source
>> www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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>
>
>
> --
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>
> Sandra and Bob in the 51st Year of our State of Marriage
> “Life’s a Trip” in “The Roadhouse”
> ’73 Painted Desert
> Huntsville, TX
>
> Finally, all of you, live in harmony with one another, be sympathetic, love
> as brothers, be compassionate and humble.  Do not repay evil with evil or
> insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so
> that you may inherit a blessing.  --1 Peter 3:8-9
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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65373 is a reply to message #65290] Mon, 23 November 2009 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mac,

I tow 2 Harleys in a single axle Haulmark trailer no problem. Sturgis and back twice.

I also have a 20' enclosed trailer with 2 axles and electric brakes for going to the desert with off-road cars.

The GMC stops better with the 2 axle than with no trailer.

Adding a 3.70 final helped a lot, as did an aluminum radiator.

Go for it.


Neil
76 Eleganza now sold
Los Angeles
Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65418 is a reply to message #65373] Mon, 23 November 2009 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Neil

What size is that single axle trailer for your Haley...I've been keeping an
eye out for a 5 or 6 by 10 to tow my '50 Panhead....I assume that would be
about the right size.
Drop in some time..

Mike in NS

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Neil Martin <nmartin@hfbllp.com> wrote:

>
>
> Mac,
>
> I tow 2 Harleys in a single axle Haulmark trailer no problem. Sturgis and
> back twice.
>
> I also have a 20' enclosed trailer with 2 axles and electric brakes for
> going to the desert with off-road cars.
>
> The GMC stops better with the 2 axle than with no trailer.
>
> Adding a 3.70 final helped a lot, as did an aluminum radiator.
>
> Go for it.
>
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65422 is a reply to message #65418] Mon, 23 November 2009 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been keeping an
eye out for a 5 or 6 by 10 to tow my '50 Panhead....

Mike in NS


[/quote]


Dang Mike, bring that thing down this winter. My dad rode a 53 Panhead.
We do like the Vibe. It tows good and we use a Roadmaster Prgressive Brake. Am trying to decide whether to tow it or the bug this winter to Az. I think the bug would like Quartzsite much better.

Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65424 is a reply to message #65290] Mon, 23 November 2009 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,

I would have to measure, but here is a picture (my first post on the photo site)

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31745





Neil
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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65425 is a reply to message #65290] Mon, 23 November 2009 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is an interesting discussion that comes up every now and then.
Quite a few years back we had a contributor who used his 23' GMC to
tow a 3 axle trailer containing a dragster and two funny cars. I know
that Zak did at least one frame off rebuild and I remember his running
battles with the toll roads of New York over charging for all 6 axles.
Truck rates ya know.<G> I honesty think that the only limiting factor
is your ability. That 455 with the right gear rato will pull just
about anything..........Terry

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Jose' Silva <jhsilva19@verizon.net> wrote:
> what would be a comfortable weight to tow ? attempting to determine what towd to purchase ..
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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65430 is a reply to message #65424] Mon, 23 November 2009 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi, Neil.



What bike is the lady riding? I'm sure it's a Dyna of some sort,

but can't see enough to determine. My wife Judy (69) rides a

2007 Low Rider. I ride a 2000 Screamin' Eagle Road Glide.



D C "Mac" Macdonald

USAF - Retired

Oklahoma City



> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:38:16 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle
>
> Mike,
>
> I would have to measure, but here is a picture (my first post on the photo site)
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31745
>
> --
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> 76 Eleganza
> Los Angeles

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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65470 is a reply to message #65290] Tue, 24 November 2009 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mac,

The wife's bike is an 04 Dyna Low Rider.


Neil
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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65471 is a reply to message #65425] Tue, 24 November 2009 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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this one?
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=24370

gene

This is an interesting discussion that comes up every now and then.
> Quite a few years back we had a contributor who used his 23' GMC to
> tow a 3 axle trailer containing a dragster and two funny cars.
> <http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist>
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Re: [GMCnet] weight of tow vehicle [message #65485 is a reply to message #65290] Tue, 24 November 2009 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I know alot of people consider the SmartCar ugly, but I think it would make a great Towd.

Here is a company making a drive-on trailer for taking your SmartCar along with you. No wear and tear on your Smart Car.

http://www.smarttrailerusa.com/

I'm sure though it will fit nicely on a lot of other small trailers with ramps that are much less $$


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