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| Re: [GMCnet] Revcon [message #63657 is a reply to message #63641] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 06:54   |
hertfordnc
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I gotta jump in here-
The two groups have more in common with each other than either has with the SOB world.
And both would benefit by more inclusion. The Revcon folks often ask each other for solutions the GMC people already have. And the GMC community, especially the vendors, would benefit by the addition of a few hundred new customers.
Particularly the Flatnose, (71-79) which has an identical drive train except for the axles.
The Revcon people ask each other about Toronado carbs when the GMC carb is available off the shelf and would probably work better.
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Revcon [message #63659 is a reply to message #63657] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 07:16 |
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Don't forget the other model with the wannabe GMC rear end. Toronado front
end there, too.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
dave silva wrote:
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> I gotta jump in here-
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> The two groups have more in common with each other than either has with the
> SOB world.
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> And both would benefit by more inclusion. The Revcon folks often ask each
> other for solutions the GMC people already have. And the GMC community,
> especially the vendors, would benefit by the addition of a few hundred new
> customers.
>
> Particularly the Flatnose, (71-79) which has an identical drive train except
> for the axles.
>
> The Revcon people ask each other about Toronado carbs when the GMC carb is
> available off the shelf and would probably work better.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Revcon [message #63665 is a reply to message #63663] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 09:31 |
hertfordnc
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| Terry Skinner wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 08:29 |
I don't know what you guys are talking about. All we wanted when the
net started was to help each other fix our GMCs. there are lots of
others that cover the plethora of brands out there. Are we going to
change over to cover ALL brands?? Count me out.............Terry
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Terry,
It's your group and you can do what you want. But there is not a plethora of other brands with enough in common to get any value from this group other than the Revcon and maybe the Clark Cortez.
All The other Toronado based FWD motohomes built (there were three) would all fit in the average driveway.
But we share a willingness to maintain and restore a 35 year-old, well-engineered coach rather than put up with the poorly designed, rolling leaks that other people accept as motorhomes.
I won't debate the merits of each other than to say there is not a clear winner. The GMC is the better choice for most people because of the community and availability of vendors.
I think some of those vendors would agree that the critical mass necessary to keep the GMC from going the way of the Clark Cortez, and probably the Revcon, is hanging by a thread and may not survive many more years or recessions.
(and I do own a GMC for the time being)
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Revcon [message #63669 is a reply to message #63628] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 09:43 |
Gary Cottingame
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Thanks Terry.
I joined this group because it's name was GMCnet.
Not gmc/revcon/fmc/ultravan/net.. I am proud to be the owner of the 21st GMC ever built (Nov 1972). I am proud to be amoung a group where I can get answers which I don't have. (Although I worked on these coaches back in 1973.) There is such a vast amount of knowledge here to be had that you could write many books on the GMC Motorhome. I know for sure that if I ask a question, it surely will be answered. And I am greatful for the many opinions I get here. So, I'll enjoy being a member and meeting so many great people on this GMCnet.
I'll delete what I don't want to read, and enjoy the rest.
Thanks for being here..
Gary
73 26 CL (in restoration)
TZE21
Denison, Tx
--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Revcon
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:29 AM
I don't know what you guys are talking about. All we wanted when the
net started was to help each other fix our GMCs. there are lots of
others that cover the plethora of brands out there. Are we going to
change over to cover ALL brands?? Count me out.............Terry
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Byron Songer
<bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:
> Don't forget the other model with the wannabe GMC rear end. Toronado front
> end there, too.
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> Byron Songer
> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
> Louisville, KY
> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
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> dave silva wrote:
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>> I gotta jump in here-
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>> The two groups have more in common with each other than either has with the
>> SOB world.
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>> And both would benefit by more inclusion. The Revcon folks often ask each
>> other for solutions the GMC people already have. And the GMC community,
>> especially the vendors, would benefit by the addition of a few hundred new
>> customers.
>>
>> Particularly the Flatnose, (71-79) which has an identical drive train except
>> for the axles.
>>
>> The Revcon people ask each other about Toronado carbs when the GMC carb is
>> available off the shelf and would probably work better.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Revcon [message #63684 is a reply to message #63669] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 10:39 |
GMC_LES
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I see no problem in having the Revcon people lurking in the background. I
would prefer that if they chime in with comments or questions that they keep
them related to subjects that apply to the GMC as well. Should unrelated
matter inadvertently be posted, we can all just hit the delete button. If
the unrelated matter gets to be too excessive, someone will surely pipe up
and remind the guilty parties to keep things on track. This is how I've seen
this group function for the past few months within it's existing membership.
Another way we could deal with this is to add a non-GMC section to the
online forum only, and let the other Toronado based models do their thing.
We all have the ability to choose what messages we want to have sent to our
in-boxes so it is as easy as choosing to receive their messages or not.
I joined this group for the GMC content, but if a Revcon owner has a
solution or suggestion that might help me, I would be very gratefull. It is
all about keeping these old beasts alive. As more and more parts become hard
to find, we will need to rely on the collective efforts of those of us still
willing to stay in the game. It will only get worse as time goes on, so why
hinder progress in a potentially positive direction?
Les Burt
Montreal
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Cottingame
Sent: November 10, 2009 10:44 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Revcon
Thanks Terry.
I joined this group because it's name was GMCnet.
Not gmc/revcon/fmc/ultravan/net.. I am proud to be the owner of the 21st
GMC ever built (Nov 1972). I am proud to be amoung a group where I can get
answers which I don't have. (Although I worked on these coaches back in
1973.) There is such a vast amount of knowledge here to be had that you
could write many books on the GMC Motorhome. I know for sure that if I ask a
question, it surely will be answered. And I am greatful for the many
opinions I get here. So, I'll enjoy being a member and meeting so many great
people on this GMCnet.
I'll delete what I don't want to read, and enjoy the rest.
Thanks for being here..
Gary
73 26 CL (in restoration)
TZE21
Denison, Tx
--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Revcon
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:29 AM
I don't know what you guys are talking about. All we wanted when the
net started was to help each other fix our GMCs. there are lots of
others that cover the plethora of brands out there. Are we going to
change over to cover ALL brands?? Count me out.............Terry
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Byron Songer
<bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:
> Don't forget the other model with the wannabe GMC rear end. Toronado front
> end there, too.
>
> Byron Songer
> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
> Louisville, KY
> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
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>
>
> dave silva wrote:
>
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>>
>> I gotta jump in here-
>>
>> The two groups have more in common with each other than either has with
the
>> SOB world.
>>
>> And both would benefit by more inclusion. The Revcon folks often ask
each
>> other for solutions the GMC people already have. And the GMC community,
>> especially the vendors, would benefit by the addition of a few hundred
new
>> customers.
>>
>> Particularly the Flatnose, (71-79) which has an identical drive train
except
>> for the axles.
>>
>> The Revcon people ask each other about Toronado carbs when the GMC carb
is
>> available off the shelf and would probably work better.
>>
>>
>>
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Roy. Washington
'76 GMC
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Montreal
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| Re: [GMCnet] Revcon [message #63686 is a reply to message #63628] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 10:51 |
Chr$
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My two cents:
I would bet that a lot of the Revcon owners use the web instead of a mail list, but I never used mail lists, so I don't really know.
I wouldn't be opposed to having a Revcon board on the forum. It doesn't necessarily have to go to the mail list users, so the Revcon guys could use it, and if any of us GMC'ers were so inclined to read that board and help, the more the merrier. If not, don't click.
I would read it. The current crop of Revcon boards are not that active, and these guys could use it, some of us would participate, and the most important, the Jim's et-al would potentially expand their business from it as someone previously stated, and healthy vendors are better to have than not at all.
You may be surprised what they may have to offer. The ModmyRV.com website has given me some out of the box ideas that never came up here.
I frequent some other types of boards, and there usually is always some sort of "other brands" type of board.
I for one would like to see a general "water cooler" board as well, so non GMC posts could have a place to live too. A lot more discussion would take place here if we had that.
Too bad the photo site and forum are not linked. It seems most of us have two different user names between the two as well and sometimes you cannot figure out who's photos you are looking at.
Here is an example of what I am talking about.
www.mysporttrac.com
This site is nicely laid out, and everything is in one place. It is easy to find a fix in a hurry if you need one. (I have a 2001 model)
This site also has a nice catalog of projects. I have been a member here since 2001.
Of course it would be monumental to merge and change everything and would pi$$ everyone off if this were to occur, but this is an example of a "different way".
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Revcon [message #63690 is a reply to message #63684] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 11:06 |
Dennis S
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For several years one of our valued contributors was Big Jim. He was always thoughtful and complete in his posts. He also did not own a GMC but a Clark Cortez - but he rarely mentioned that.
As for a seperate section for non-GMC's -- I see no value. The group has been open to the occassional off-topic. But the owners of forum, the photo site and the mail list can make that choice.
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Les Burt <burtco99@yahoo.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2009 10:39 am
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Revcon
I see no problem in having the Revcon people lurking in the background. I
ould prefer that if they chime in with comments or questions that they keep
hem related to subjects that apply to the GMC as well. Should unrelated
atter inadvertently be posted, we can all just hit the delete button. If
he unrelated matter gets to be too excessive, someone will surely pipe up
nd remind the guilty parties to keep things on track. This is how I've seen
his group function for the past few months within it's existing membership.
nother way we could deal with this is to add a non-GMC section to the
nline forum only, and let the other Toronado based models do their thing.
e all have the ability to choose what messages we want to have sent to our
n-boxes so it is as easy as choosing to receive their messages or not.
I joined this group for the GMC content, but if a Revcon owner has a
olution or suggestion that might help me, I would be very gratefull. It is
ll about keeping these old beasts alive. As more and more parts become hard
o find, we will need to rely on the collective efforts of those of us still
illing to stay in the game. It will only get worse as time goes on, so why
inder progress in a potentially positive direction?
Les Burt
ontreal
-----Original Message-----
rom: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Cottingame
ent: November 10, 2009 10:44 AM
o: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
ubject: Re: [GMCnet] Revcon
Thanks Terry.
I joined this group because it's name was GMCnet.
Not gmc/revcon/fmc/ultravan/net.. I am proud to be the owner of the 21st
MC ever built (Nov 1972). I am proud to be amoung a group where I can get
nswers which I don't have. (Although I worked on these coaches back in
973.) There is such a vast amount of knowledge here to be had that you
ould write many books on the GMC Motorhome. I know for sure that if I ask a
uestion, it surely will be answered. And I am greatful for the many
pinions I get here. So, I'll enjoy being a member and meeting so many great
eople on this GMCnet.
I'll delete what I don't want to read, and enjoy the rest.
Thanks for being here..
Gary
3 26 CL (in restoration)
ZE21
enison, Tx
-- On Tue, 11/10/09, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:
rom: Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com>
ubject: Re: [GMCnet] Revcon
o: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
ate: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:29 AM
don't know what you guys are talking about. All we wanted when the
et started was to help each other fix our GMCs. there are lots of
thers that cover the plethora of brands out there. Are we going to
hange over to cover ALL brands?? Count me out.............Terry
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Byron Songer
bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:
Don't forget the other model with the wannabe GMC rear end. Toronado front
end there, too.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
dave silva wrote:
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>
> I gotta jump in here-
>
> The two groups have more in common with each other than either has with
he
> SOB world.
>
> And both would benefit by more inclusion. The Revcon folks often ask
ach
> other for solutions the GMC people already have. And the GMC community,
> especially the vendors, would benefit by the addition of a few hundred
ew
> customers.
>
> Particularly the Flatnose, (71-79) which has an identical drive train
xcept
> for the axles.
>
> The Revcon people ask each other about Toronado carbs when the GMC carb
s
> available off the shelf and would probably work better.
>
>
>
>
>
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erry Skinner
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| Re: [GMCnet] Revcon [message #63707 is a reply to message #63657] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 12:59 |
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USAussie
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Dave,
I have noted that whenever a Revconeer or other SOB owners have asked
questions here they have been helped.
I discovered the Revcon at the same time I discovered the GMC and I felt
that the Slant Nose would have been a good choice for me too and in some
ways better than the GMC. But when I found out about the Black List, all the
rallies, the GMC net, I decided that the GMC was the way I wanted to go.
Undoubtley the GMC carb would work better than the Toronado carb but as far
as I know they're not available off the shelf. To get them rebuilt by the
best rebuilder (Dick Paterson) you have to have a core that carries a GMC
part number and is rebuildable (not warped).
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of dave silva
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2009 11:55 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Revcon
I gotta jump in here-
The two groups have more in common with each other than either has with the
SOB world.
And both would benefit by more inclusion. The Revcon folks often ask each
other for solutions the GMC people already have. And the GMC community,
especially the vendors, would benefit by the addition of a few hundred new
customers.
Particularly the Flatnose, (71-79) which has an identical drive train except
for the axles.
The Revcon people ask each other about Toronado carbs when the GMC carb is
available off the shelf and would probably work better.
--
1972 Revcon 250- the other front wheel drive motorhome.
http://www.davesilva.com/revcon
Parting out 1974 GMC 26- http://www.davesilva.com/gmc
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Revcon [message #63709 is a reply to message #63707] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 13:24 |
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ljdavick
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It's okay - if you don't have a core, all you need is money! I believe that he charges $200 if you don't have a rebuild-able core.
Sounds like a great opportunity for fuel injection...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:59:33 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Revcon
Dave,
I have noted that whenever a Revconeer or other SOB owners have asked
questions here they have been helped.
I discovered the Revcon at the same time I discovered the GMC and I felt
that the Slant Nose would have been a good choice for me too and in some
ways better than the GMC. But when I found out about the Black List, all the
rallies, the GMC net, I decided that the GMC was the way I wanted to go.
Undoubtley the GMC carb would work better than the Toronado carb but as far
as I know they're not available off the shelf. To get them rebuilt by the
best rebuilder (Dick Paterson) you have to have a core that carries a GMC
part number and is rebuildable (not warped).
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of dave silva
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2009 11:55 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Revcon
I gotta jump in here-
The two groups have more in common with each other than either has with the
SOB world.
And both would benefit by more inclusion. The Revcon folks often ask each
other for solutions the GMC people already have. And the GMC community,
especially the vendors, would benefit by the addition of a few hundred new
customers.
Particularly the Flatnose, (71-79) which has an identical drive train except
for the axles.
The Revcon people ask each other about Toronado carbs when the GMC carb is
available off the shelf and would probably work better.
--
1972 Revcon 250- the other front wheel drive motorhome.
http://www.davesilva.com/revcon
Parting out 1974 GMC 26- http://www.davesilva.com/gmc
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A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, Ca
Howell EFI + EBL + Electronic Dizzy
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| Re: [GMCnet] Revcon [message #63719 is a reply to message #63716] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 15:10 |
hertfordnc
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Ok, here's a really radical idea-
It would be in the INTEREST of the community if Revcon folks were allowed to join the clubs. I know, you're all saying "yeah, but it's a GMC club"
And like i said before, it's your group and you can do what you want.
The Revcon has lost critical mass and it's days are numbered (in my opinion)
GMC prices are down but I see Revcons going for a fraction of what the PO paid for them. I suspect a lot will get crushed this year.
The Revcon group is too small to be as active as this group. But if the GMCers welcomed them, Blacklist, rally's, the whole thing, this group would benefit. The vendors would have some additional customers, and there would be a few hundred more folks to share ideas with.
OK, I'll shut up now and whoever said I added value to the discussion will probably want to retract that statement.
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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