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GeorgeRud is currently offline  GeorgeRud   United States
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I'm in the process of replacing my old Onan generator with a Generac Primepact 50. As the Hondas are NLA, it seems like a rational choice and was nicely priced. I would like to get rid of the old, falling fiberglass insulation that is currently lining the compartment. What is the reccommended lining material for the compartment? I've seen pictures of what I think is the foil faced rigid fiberglass insulation, but wanted to be sure before I start buying something that won't work.

Also, I think that the compartment is lined in an aluminum box (my coach is a 75 Palm Beach if that makes any difference), but I'm not sure as the insulation is still in place. The Generac installation manual states you should have a sheet steel lining, not aluminum. Has anyone has experience with this?

ps. Removing the old Onan is a very messy job when it has 35 years of oil and mud on it!


George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
Re: Generator Compartment Insulation [message #61992 is a reply to message #61986] Tue, 27 October 2009 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMC Cruse is currently offline  GMC Cruse   United States
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Someone else posted this;

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=16538


Mike K. '75 PB Southeast Michigan
Re: Generator Compartment Insulation [message #61995 is a reply to message #61986] Tue, 27 October 2009 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rusty is currently offline  Rusty   United States
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I think I paid $80 for a 4x4' piece of aluminum laminated heat insulation 1/4" thick from NAPA . I used Permatext gasket sealer in a spray can to glue it. Cut the pieces. Spray the brown stuff on the coach surface. Let it dry for 5 minutes till its tacky. Fit the piece and snug it up. Aluminum side up. Use a whisk broom to put pressure all over the piece for a few minutes till it sets up good. For the roof of the compartment I cut a piece of thin plywood to match. After I sprayed and placed the piece I held it up with the plywood and braced the plywood up with a 2x4 so I didnt have to hold it. Left it overnite. That was summer of 2008 its still holding.

Rusty
75 Glenbrook
Philadelphia Pa
Re: [GMCnet] Generator Compartment Insulation [message #62000 is a reply to message #61986] Tue, 27 October 2009 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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Hi, If you have space use a layer of 2lb per square foot lead sheet. Should
be available from most good industrial supply places. Then a layer of 1/2"
foam carpet underpad, then a layer of acoustic ceiling tile. Attach all this
with spray adhesive, fender washers and screws. For the last layer I used
foil faced underfelt from an auto upholstery supply place. I glued this on
and then used some screws and fender washers. My 50G is pretty quiet inside
the coach. Of course the 6 inches of foam mattress over top helps quite a
bit as well.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier


----- Original Message -----
From: "George Rudawsky" <GeorgeRud@aol.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:13 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Generator Compartment Insulation


>
>
> I'm in the process of replacing my old Onan generator with a Generac
> Primepact 50. As the Hondas are NLA, it seems like a rational choice and
> was nicely priced. I would like to get rid of the old, falling fiberglass
> insulation that is currently lining the compartment. What is the
> reccommended lining material for the compartment? I've seen pictures of
> what I think is the foil faced rigid fiberglass insulation, but wanted to
> be sure before I start buying something that won't work.
>
> Also, I think that the compartment is lined in an aluminum box (my coach
> is a 75 Palm Beach if that makes any difference), but I'm not sure as the
> insulation is still in place. The Generac installation manual states you
> should have a sheet steel lining, not aluminum. Has anyone has experience
> with this?
>
> ps. Removing the old Onan is a very messy job when it has 35 years of oil
> and mud on it!
> --
> George Rudawsky
> Chicago, IL
> 75 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Generator Compartment Insulation [message #62004 is a reply to message #61986] Tue, 27 October 2009 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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George,

Here's a link to all the insulation that J.C. Whitney sells:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/jcwhitney/textsearch_result.jcw?sku=insulation&shop
id=100001&_requestid=58049

http://tinyurl.com/yhady4m

I bought the 1" thick sheets to put on top of the galvanized Onan box under
the passenger side bed.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/Mylar_Faced_Foam_Sound/Heat_Insulation_with_Vinyl_L
ining?ID=12;0;0;0;100001;ProductName;0;0;0;N;2002966;0;0

http://tinyurl.com/ygoo3bl

I bought this to line the inside of the galvanized Onan box.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/Complete_Insulation_Kits?ID=12;0;0;0;100001;Product
Name;0;0;0;N;2010772;0;0

http://tinyurl.com/ykntyga

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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I'm in the process of replacing my old Onan generator with a Generac
Primepact 50. As the Hondas are NLA, it seems like a rational choice and
was nicely priced. I would like to get rid of the old, falling fiberglass
insulation that is currently lining the compartment. What is the
reccommended lining material for the compartment? I've seen pictures of
what I think is the foil faced rigid fiberglass insulation, but wanted to be
sure before I start buying something that won't work.

Also, I think that the compartment is lined in an aluminum box (my coach is
a 75 Palm Beach if that makes any difference), but I'm not sure as the
insulation is still in place. The Generac installation manual states you
should have a sheet steel lining, not aluminum. Has anyone has experience
with this?

ps. Removing the old Onan is a very messy job when it has 35 years of oil
and mud on it!
--
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Generator Compartment Insulation [message #62050 is a reply to message #62000] Wed, 28 October 2009 06:59 Go to previous message
Jim Bounds is currently offline  Jim Bounds   United States
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Gary,

Man you really muffled that critter!  I use 1 lb. sheet goods and it did a great job on the Honda unit.  I may have to go to the 2 lb. goods next for the air cooled models-- we'll see.  That seemed to be enough not doing anything else.  The compartment gets pretty small as you add insulation.

You are doing what we do though, the stuff has 1 layer of chrome mylar for heat, 2 layers of foam and the nylon/lead layer for sound.  All in all it does a great job.

Jim Bounds
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From: Gary Worobec <gtw5@earthlink.net>
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Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 7:00:03 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Generator Compartment Insulation

Hi, If you have space use a layer of 2lb per square foot lead sheet. Should
be available from most good industrial supply places. Then a layer of 1/2"
foam carpet underpad, then a layer of acoustic ceiling tile. Attach all this
with spray adhesive, fender washers and screws. For the last layer I used
foil faced underfelt from an auto upholstery supply place. I glued this on
and then used some screws and fender washers. My 50G is pretty quiet inside
the coach. Of course the 6 inches of foam mattress over top helps quite a
bit as well.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier


----- Original Message -----
From: "George Rudawsky" <GeorgeRud@aol.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:13 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Generator Compartment Insulation


>
>
> I'm in the process of replacing my old Onan generator with a Generac
> Primepact 50.  As the Hondas are NLA, it seems like a rational choice and
> was nicely priced.  I would like to get rid of the old, falling fiberglass
> insulation that is currently lining the compartment.  What is the
> reccommended lining material for the compartment?  I've seen pictures of
> what I think is the foil faced rigid fiberglass insulation, but wanted to
> be sure before I start buying something that won't work.
>
> Also, I think that the compartment is lined in an aluminum box (my coach
> is a 75 Palm Beach if that makes any difference), but I'm not sure as the
> insulation is still in place.  The Generac installation manual states you
> should have a sheet steel lining, not aluminum.  Has anyone has experience
> with this?
>
> ps. Removing the old Onan is a very messy job when it has 35 years of oil
> and mud on it!
> --
> George Rudawsky
> Chicago, IL
> 75 Palm Beach
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