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| [GMCnet] Bye for now [message #61619] |
Sun, 25 October 2009 18:10  |
emerystora
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There is one person on the list that seems to disagree with every
little thing that I say.
That same person has also driven Steve Ferguson from the list and two
others that I know of.
I have decided to follow their lead and quit posting. it isn't worth
all the crap.
I may be back someday but time will tell.
Meanwhile if anyone wants to get ahold of me you have my email address.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now [message #61622 is a reply to message #61619] |
Sun, 25 October 2009 18:26  |
Mr ERFisher
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that same person has driven away
Emery
Steve
Gene
Bob de Kruyff
JimK
and many other who just will not answer his posts.
He has been told, but all he can do is attack, attack, attack.
I refuse to let anyone run my life, so I just will not answer his posts.
gene
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
> There is one person on the list that seems to disagree with every
> little thing that I say.
>
> That same person has also driven Steve Ferguson from the list and two
> others that I know of.
>
> I have decided to follow their lead and quit posting. it isn't worth
> all the crap.
>
> I may be back someday but time will tell.
> Meanwhile if anyone wants to get ahold of me you have my email address.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now [message #61625 is a reply to message #61622] |
Sun, 25 October 2009 18:39 |
Marcus McGee
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Ok, name names and let's get rid of the offending person. I have been here since the beginning and although I do not post much anymore I look and read every day more than once.
The ones that have left are the more productive of the group. Well almost all of them except Steve and that Stora fella. (obviously tongue in cheek) Love ya both.
Marcus
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mr.erf ERFisher" <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:26:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now
that same person has driven away
Emery
Steve
Gene
Bob de Kruyff
JimK
and many other who just will not answer his posts.
He has been told, but all he can do is attack, attack, attack.
I refuse to let anyone run my life, so I just will not answer his posts.
gene
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
> There is one person on the list that seems to disagree with every
> little thing that I say.
>
> That same person has also driven Steve Ferguson from the list and two
> others that I know of.
>
> I have decided to follow their lead and quit posting. it isn't worth
> all the crap.
>
> I may be back someday but time will tell.
> Meanwhile if anyone wants to get ahold of me you have my email address.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now [message #61628 is a reply to message #61620] |
Sun, 25 October 2009 18:57 |
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Richard,
I agree with you, Emery is a wealth of knowledge and is accurate to within
+- .66 of one percent. Emery is one of the four or five whom I'll read with
confidence.
It would seem we should figure out who the "guy with a burr in his saddle"
is and make a suggestion.
Why does one person think they have the right to attack anyone who come into
sight, friend or foe?
As I've said for a long time; it takes all kinds but some you'd rather do
without.
Byron
Richard MacDonald wrote:
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> Whoa, you are one of my most valuable, appreciated :blush: , should I say
> more? Please do not leave, your posts are informative and very much
> appreciated by this newbie.
> Really hope you reconsider
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now [message #61637 is a reply to message #61619] |
Sun, 25 October 2009 20:04 |
Tin Gerbil
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Emery;
I do not disagree with everything you say and have often posted,
thanking you for your help and information.
One of the greatest short comings I find in any public forum and in the
GMC archives is the amount of false and mis-leading information. I have
often emailed the authors asking for clarification on these errors and
have always gotten the answer, that no one has the time to correct them.
On many of the Forums, including the Olds Engine Forum, all the
information is dated and many corrections are noted. I find this a far
more valuable and safe type resource, especially for newbies.
If you consider my ideas, crap, that is very sad for all of us. If you
consider my information on oil temperatures vs thermostat temperatures,
crap, where are the errors? You find my posts on fan clutches "ad
nauseum", and, this is CRAP. An insult directed only at me.
To be stuck at the side of the road, when there is a simple lock up for
a fan clutch that is not working it really lame. You can lock it with a
coat hanger or a piece of rope and some duct tape, if you have to. To
even think that Heavy Duty means longer MTBF is an error. It will
probably fail sooner because of it's much higher duty cycle.
Ferguson's repeated "tests" on "faulty" fan clutches don't even deserve
comment. There are millions of fan clutches in service and a vast
knowledge base on them. It is a simple matter to find and read the
graphs and information on the many GMC clutches. To not do this and get
a proper understanding, led to the wrong conclusion, that an entire
batch of clutches were faulty. Ferguson left us with this impression.
How incredibly sad and misleading for all of us. At least Ferguson
learned what a hand held tachometer is during the ensuing discussion and
went and bought one. I assume both he an you concur on his conclusion
that only a Heavy Duty clutch is suitable? None of the other's "worked"
in his test. If it didn't couple at 95% it wasn't "working." JimK
generously supplied free clutches and shipping for this fiasco. I can
only imagine that we now have an exclusive source for the correctly
tested and documented clutch.
I wonder why they even manufacture the "wrong" thermostat for a 455?
For one to nit pick on the temperature of a thermostat and use the
factory recommendation as the only one to use is a little odd. Why
don't you accept the factory recommendation on a fan clutch?
Again, thanks for all your wisdom, most of which is still available in
the archives. I hope you will soon return.
What windmill will I tilt at next?
Gordon "descendant of Don Quixote de la Mancha"
Emery Stora wrote:
> There is one person on the list that seems to disagree with every
> little thing that I say.
>
> That same person has also driven Steve Ferguson from the list and two
> others that I know of.
>
> I have decided to follow their lead and quit posting. it isn't worth
> all the crap.
>
> I may be back someday but time will tell.
> Meanwhile if anyone wants to get ahold of me you have my email address.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
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'74 Canyon Lands "Tin Gerbil"
Vancouver Island, B.C.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now [message #61640 is a reply to message #61638] |
Sun, 25 October 2009 20:11 |
Tin Gerbil
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Ken;
You are mistaken. Emery used the "as nauseum" to describe my posts on
fan clutches. This is why I adopted the remark. I will now remove it.
Gordon
Ken Henderson wrote:
> Larry,
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> I agree. No need for caustic remarks, especially ad nauseum. Anyone
> who antagonizes so many of our most faithful members cannot go unchecked.
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> I'm very tolerant, but this has gone too far so I'll no longer answer
> his posts.
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> Ken H.
>> Larry wrote:
>>> Moderator...warn the guy again...if he does not comply...ban him. I don't want to loose anymore, and want others back.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now [message #61656 is a reply to message #61619] |
Sun, 25 October 2009 21:50 |
Len Novak
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Emery,
I'd prefer you stick around........you do a lot of good stuff for all of us
on here
Cheers,
Len and Pat
78 Kingsley, The Beast II with dash lights that work
Fallbrook, CA
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Emery Stora
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 4:10 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Bye for now
There is one person on the list that seems to disagree with every
little thing that I say.
That same person has also driven Steve Ferguson from the list and two
others that I know of.
I have decided to follow their lead and quit posting. it isn't worth
all the crap.
I may be back someday but time will tell.
Meanwhile if anyone wants to get ahold of me you have my email address.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Las Vegas, NV new email: B52sRule@Gmail.com
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now [message #61666 is a reply to message #61619] |
Sun, 25 October 2009 22:32 |
George Beckman
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| emerystora wrote on Sun, 25 October 2009 16:10 |
There is one person on the list that seems to disagree with every
little thing that I say.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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Big, big, big loss. Huge loss. Please re-consider.
Emery, you have taught me so much about my coach. I cannot imagine not having you give us your wisdom. There are some posts here I skip over. When I see your name, I read.
Remember, some people are never happier than when they are unhappy. Stay with those of us who think this GMC thing is fun.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now [message #61677 is a reply to message #61619] |
Mon, 26 October 2009 02:19 |
Ken Burton
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| emerystora wrote on Sun, 25 October 2009 18:10 |
There is one person on the list that seems to disagree with every little thing that I say.
That same person has also driven Steve Ferguson from the list and two others that I know of.
I have decided to follow their lead and quit posting. it isn't worth all the crap.
I may be back someday but time will tell.
Meanwhile if anyone wants to get ahold of me you have my email address.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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Alright guys.
I consider both of you as friends. This lining up by others to take one side or the other is unnecessary and counter productive. I do not always agree with Rick, or Colonel Ken but I get over it as do they and we continue on.
Ken,
Gordon did something for you that you never realized. We almost told you at Santa Rose but decided to keep it secret until time is right. We figure that will not be for another couple of years. Just take my word for now as you will be surprised when you find what Gordon did anonymously for you.
I do not always agree with the positions Emery, Gorgon, Ken, Rick, and others take, but I do listen to see if I think am wrong. Occasionally you win me over but most of the time you do not.
I have learned to state what I think and try to back it up with facts, experiences, or logic and reasoning. After that I forget about it and just continue on from there.
I did not talk to Arch for a couple of years after a GMCnet incident but we finally came around and we were friendly again.
So guys lets just make up and learn to continue to disagree on some things and agree on others.
Enough said.
Ken B.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now [message #61697 is a reply to message #61666] |
Mon, 26 October 2009 07:50 |
Jim Bounds
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Emery,
I understand how you feel, turning this venue into a personality war is just not what it is here for-- it happens to me all the t6ime. When I find someone does something to start the list down that path I choose to not participate and just pull away. I usually only get involved when someone gets the list off on a questionable tangent too.
this venue is here for enjoyment not self serving politics or whatever. You gotta let someone who has their head inserted just go their own way. As many have said, they learn alote from your insertions and thats what we're all here for, not for the other stuff. Just blow it off and stay on your path. You have helped me in the years past more than I can say, you know what I mean. You have so much to offer, so much wisdom (not stroking you in any way) but really, you add to the collective in a way that few can. You need to be above the petty stuff.
All of it gets old sometimes you gotta remember though the goal. Hey, you had said this to me in the past-- guess it's my turn to read it back to you! I don;t even know what this is about, don't have the time to read through the thread but whatever it is it just really does not make to a hill of whatever. As Fleetwood mac says, "go your own way". It's the right way to be, we all use your ball to learn, don;t take it home!
Jim Bounds
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From: George Beckman <gbeckman@pggp.com>
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Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 11:32:35 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now
emerystora wrote on Sun, 25 October 2009 16:10
> There is one person on the list that seems to disagree with every
> little thing that I say.
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> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
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Big, big, big loss. Huge loss. Please re-consider.
Emery, you have taught me so much about my coach. I cannot imagine not having you give us your wisdom. There are some posts here I skip over. When I see your name, I read.
Remember, some people are never happier than when they are unhappy. Stay with those of us who think this GMC thing is fun.
--
'74 Eleganza SE
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now [message #61704 is a reply to message #61619] |
Mon, 26 October 2009 08:07 |
Ray Erspamer
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This is sad to say the least.
This site should be for a good exchange of technical information, not a place to argue or challenge people, we all have different ideas, approaches and funds available, so the way we all do things can and will be different.
I know I CLOSELY watch what I post because I've been blasted really good off of the GMC net a couple of times and that's ridiculous.
For those of you that feel you need to challenge and argue with everyone, YOU should be the ones leaving the site......or just GET A LIFE !!!
I have two older siblings that would rather have a good family argument vs a good time.......guess how often I see them.....RARELY.
We're all mature adults out here, I ALWAYS review my posts after I write them and BEFORE I hit the send button.......I think this is a good habit to get into.
A post that Emery is leaving because of a few idiots really raises the hair on the back of my neck.......what he should do is post those peoples names.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
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From: Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:10:24 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Bye for now
There is one person on the list that seems to disagree with every
little thing that I say.
That same person has also driven Steve Ferguson from the list and two
others that I know of.
I have decided to follow their lead and quit posting. it isn't worth
all the crap.
I may be back someday but time will tell.
Meanwhile if anyone wants to get ahold of me you have my email address.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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Ray Erspamer
78 GMC Royale Center Kitchen
403, 3.70 Final Drive
Holley Sniper Quadrajet EFI System,
Holley Hyperspark Ignition System
414-484-9431
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now [message #61705 is a reply to message #61622] |
Mon, 26 October 2009 08:08 |
Ray Erspamer
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So why not EXPOSE this guy.......I'd like to know who he or they are.
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
The Malosco Cruiser (TZE368V101144)
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:26:12 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bye for now
that same person has driven away
Emery
Steve
Gene
Bob de Kruyff
JimK
and many other who just will not answer his posts.
He has been told, but all he can do is attack, attack, attack.
I refuse to let anyone run my life, so I just will not answer his posts.
gene
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
> There is one person on the list that seems to disagree with every
> little thing that I say.
>
> That same person has also driven Steve Ferguson from the list and two
> others that I know of.
>
> I have decided to follow their lead and quit posting. it isn't worth
> all the crap.
>
> I may be back someday but time will tell.
> Meanwhile if anyone wants to get ahold of me you have my email address.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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414-484-9431
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, should I say more? Please do not leave, your posts are informative and very much appreciated by this newbie. 
Emory don't let some A H run you off. There are some that just can't help it. So wraped up in themselves I quit posting a long time ago It is just not what it used to be. I've also noticed some 0thers that have quit. Sorry to see you go But I do understand. Jack
