| new counter top [message #59850] |
Mon, 12 October 2009 08:31  |
bukzin
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My old formica counter top is shot.
Thinking about putting is a piece of marble or granite
as I can get left overs for free.
Outside of the extra weight what might I consider?
Have any of you put in stone?
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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| Re: new counter top [message #59856 is a reply to message #59850] |
Mon, 12 October 2009 09:32  |
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I considered it, It really looks nice, but as you mentioned, the weight is an issue. I'd also be sure to secure it very very well, as in an emergency, the last thing you want flying toward your head is a 200 lb rock! 
I have a one peice stainless top from Ikea that is 7.5 in shorter than the cabinet, but has a nice deep single bowl sink integrated in it with no seams. I'm still contemplating using that (it's in my photos) or just a nice peice of premade countertop from Homeowners Despot. They have a "sand" looking one that I have in my laundry room that looks nice.
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| Re: new counter top [message #60014 is a reply to message #59850] |
Tue, 13 October 2009 19:28 |
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I replaced my tired old top with a nice sand colored piece of granite. I removed the stove, replaced it with a convection/micro and two burner cooktop. Rotated the sink 90* so the large bowl is toward the center of the coach and undermounted the sink just like home. Mounted the faucet on the granite. Gives a lot of work space between the cooktop and sink. I didn't worry about the weight as the difference between the granlte and particle board isn't all that much. The stone is attached to the cabinet using polyurthane glue so if you stop fast enough to break loose the top you probably hit a rock face and have other issues.
Just what I did.
Randy
| bukzin wrote on Mon, 12 October 2009 06:31 |
My old formica counter top is shot.
Thinking about putting is a piece of marble or granite
as I can get left overs for free.
Outside of the extra weight what might I consider?
Have any of you put in stone?
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Randall Burns
Sammamish WA
75 EX GB
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| Re: [GMCnet] new counter top [message #60017 is a reply to message #60014] |
Tue, 13 October 2009 19:48 |
Tin Gerbil
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I have a problem with your counter top. It looks so nice, I wouldn't
want to use it. Just sit and polish it every few hours.
(€:)>
rwbmitiopt wrote:
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> I replaced my tired old top with a nice sand colored piece of
> granite. I removed the stove, replaced it with a convection/micro and
> two burner cooktop. Rotated the sink 90* so the large bowl is toward
> the center of the coach and undermounted the sink just like home.
> Mounted the faucet on the granite. Gives a lot of work space between
> the cooktop and sink. I didn't worry about the weight as the
> difference between the granlte and particle board isn't all that
> much. The stone is attached to the cabinet using polyurthane glue so
> if you stop fast enough to break loose the top you probably hit a
> rock face and have other issues. Just what I did. Randy bukzin wrote
> on Mon, 12 October 2009 06:31
>> My old formica counter top is shot.
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>> Thinking about putting is a piece of marble or granite as I can get
>> left overs for free.
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>> Outside of the extra weight what might I consider?
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>> Have any of you put in stone?
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| Re: new counter top [message #60024 is a reply to message #60014] |
Tue, 13 October 2009 21:46 |
Chr$
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Pics?
| rwbmitiopt wrote on Tue, 13 October 2009 17:28 |
I replaced my tired old top with a nice sand colored piece of granite. I removed the stove, replaced it with a convection/micro and two burner cooktop. Rotated the sink 90* so the large bowl is toward the center of the coach and undermounted the sink just like home. Mounted the faucet on the granite. Gives a lot of work space between the cooktop and sink. I didn't worry about the weight as the difference between the granlte and particle board isn't all that much. The stone is attached to the cabinet using polyurthane glue so if you stop fast enough to break loose the top you probably hit a rock face and have other issues.
Just what I did.
Randy
| bukzin wrote on Mon, 12 October 2009 06:31 |
My old formica counter top is shot.
Thinking about putting is a piece of marble or granite
as I can get left overs for free.
Outside of the extra weight what might I consider?
Have any of you put in stone?
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Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: new counter top [message #60047 is a reply to message #59850] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 01:59 |
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| bukzin wrote on Mon, 12 October 2009 06:31 |
... Thinking about putting is a piece of marble or granite as I can get left overs for free. ...
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Stone counter left overs?... There has got to be a market for those!
I'll have to get with you when (IF) I rebuild my '73.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: new counter top [message #60074 is a reply to message #60024] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 11:51 |
rwbmitiopt@comcast.net
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Chris
I don't have pics but will try to get to that in the next couple of days after my house guests leave.
I was concerned about weight when I first thought about the switch but my guess the difference is maybe 100#(SWAG). The square footage is pretty small.
Randy | Chr$ wrote on Tue, 13 October 2009 19:46 |
Pics?
Just what I did.
Randy
| bukzin wrote on Mon, 12 October 2009 06:31 |
My old formica counter top is shot.
Thinking about putting is a piece of marble or granite
as I can get left overs for free.
Outside of the extra weight what might I consider?
Have any of you put in stone?
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Randall Burns
Sammamish WA
75 EX GB
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| Re: new counter top [message #60076 is a reply to message #60074] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 12:16 |
rwbmitiopt@comcast.net
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I just went out and weighed a scrap of marble (maybe a bit lighter than granite but not by much). It works out to 12.5 lbs per square foot for 2cm thick material (common thickness for counter top) Estimate the square footage of the counter top is 10 sq ft so total weight is under 150 lbs.
Randy
[quote title=rwbmitiopt wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 09:51]Chris
I don't have pics but will try to get to that in the next couple of days after my house guests leave.
I was concerned about weight when I first thought about the switch but my guess the difference is maybe 100#(SWAG). The square footage is pretty small.
Randy | Chr$ wrote on Tue, 13 October 2009 19:46 |
Pics?
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| Re: [GMCnet] new counter top [message #60080 is a reply to message #60076] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 12:32 |
Tin Gerbil
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Randy;
My gosh, 2cm. Is your heritage showing or couldn't you find your REAL
tape measure? Square feet and cm's has my calculator flashing red.
Tre's complique'
Gordon "hiding from the rain"
rwbmitiopt wrote:
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> I just went out and weighed a scrap of marble (maybe a bit lighter
> than granite but not by much). It works out to 12.5 lbs per square
> foot for 2cm thick material (common thickness for counter top)
> Estimate the square footage of the counter top is 10 sq ft so total
> weight is under 150 lbs. Randy
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| Re: [GMCnet] new counter top [message #60083 is a reply to message #60080] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 12:53 |
Gary Worobec
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Here is my counter top horror story. I posted this back in February 07 so
everyone could take pity on me.
I did a solid surface top for my galley in my 23. Layed the 1/2" Meganite
(Corian clone)
material over top of 3/4 plywood. Rabetted out for the SS sink so it would
sit
between the plywood and the solid surface. I then did the cut outs for the
sink, the
3 burner rangetop and an outlet. The counter material was a wheat color and
I edged it with a blue corian material and then another layer of wheat color
so the edge was about 1 1/2". I then bull nosed it on the two exposed
edges. After like a week polishing with up to #2000 grit discs I installed
it. It
looked awesome. I must have had 40 hours in it.
Two weeks later I had a crack right from the corner of the
outlet box to the sink, and from the other corner of the outlet to the
corner of the cut out for the stove.
Here are the mistakes I made.
1. Should have used 3/4 MDF instead of plywood for the base.
It is more dimensionally stable under temperature changes and
does not warp. I think the plywood was constantly moving
which stressed the counter top. As well, the window for the 23 is right
above the counter and temperatures where I live can change from freezing to
100 plus inside the coach. Plastic solid surface is not very stable
dimensionally.
In a house with a very narrow temperature change from day to day it's fine.
2. Even though I radiused the corners of the outlet box
and the stove cut out I should have polished them to get
rid of the stress risers. Any kind of scratch will cause a crack.
I'll not put the outlet in the same location next time.
3. Should have "floated" the solid surface on the plywood
with silicone and not 3M 5200. Silicone has more flexibility.
I have another 4 sheets of material so I'm going to do another
top in a while.
It's a pretty fun project. You need good sharp router bits, an orbital
sander with discs from 400 to 2000 grit and Cycroacrylate glue both the
think and the thin.
Thanks,
Gary and Joanne Worobec
Anza, CA
1973 23' Glacier
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon" <wizwing@telus.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] new counter top
> Randy;
> My gosh, 2cm. Is your heritage showing or couldn't you find your REAL
> tape measure? Square feet and cm's has my calculator flashing red.
> Tre's complique'
> Gordon "hiding from the rain"
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> rwbmitiopt wrote:
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>> I just went out and weighed a scrap of marble (maybe a bit lighter
>> than granite but not by much). It works out to 12.5 lbs per square
>> foot for 2cm thick material (common thickness for counter top)
>> Estimate the square footage of the counter top is 10 sq ft so total
>> weight is under 150 lbs. Randy
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| Re: new counter top [message #60096 is a reply to message #60074] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 17:21 |
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That's true. Regarding scraps, I did a nice bar top in my house with one. I paid for it, but they edged it and cut it to fit my dims exactly. I'll post a pic. Looks like it was a tree a few million years ago...
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
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| Re: [GMCnet] new counter top [message #60109 is a reply to message #60080] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 19:28 |
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Hey Gordon, long time no hear. Yeah I'm switching from this antiquated system to what the rest of the world uses. Anyway all granite that I've used in our remodels comes in cm thicknesses or thats what the suppliers spec.. I think my math is still correct for 1 sq/ft of 2cm (101/128")thick stone. BTW did you by chance take a pic of my counter at the Darrington rally?
Anyway good hearing from you,
] Randy
( | Tin Gerbil wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 10:32 |
Randy;
My gosh, 2cm. Is your heritage showing or couldn't you find your REAL
tape measure? Square feet and cm's has my calculator flashing red.
Tre's complique'
Gordon "hiding from the rain"
rwbmitiopt wrote:
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> I just went out and weighed a scrap of marble (maybe a bit lighter
> than granite but not by much). It works out to 12.5 lbs per square
> foot for 2cm thick material (common thickness for counter top)
> Estimate the square footage of the counter top is 10 sq ft so total
> weight is under 150 lbs. Randy
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| Re: [GMCnet] new counter top [message #60113 is a reply to message #60109] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 20:11 |
Tin Gerbil
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Hi Randy;
I'm not questioning your calculations, just commenting on your
unAMERICAN metric measurement. The US had a ban on metric delineated
products many years ago. Canada is much more intelligent than that.
454 grams of butter, 3.87 meters wide carpet, etc. HFSCYG? What a
crazy world we live in.
I thought I did take several pictures of your counter top but I can't
find them.
Gordon
rwbmitiopt wrote:
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> Hey Gordon, long time no hear. Yeah I'm switching from this antiquated system to what the rest of the world uses. Anyway all granite that I've used in our remodels comes in cm thicknesses or thats what the suppliers spec.. I think my math is still correct for 1 sq/ft of 2cm (101/128")thick stone. BTW did you by chance take a pic of my counter at the Darrington rally?
> Anyway good hearing from you,
> ] Randy
> ( Tin Gerbil wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 10:32
>> Randy;
>> My gosh, 2cm. Is your heritage showing or couldn't you find your REAL
>> tape measure? Square feet and cm's has my calculator flashing red.
>> Tre's complique'
>> Gordon "hiding from the rain"
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>> rwbmitiopt wrote:
>>> I just went out and weighed a scrap of marble (maybe a bit lighter
>>> than granite but not by much). It works out to 12.5 lbs per square
>>> foot for 2cm thick material (common thickness for counter top)
>>> Estimate the square footage of the counter top is 10 sq ft so total
>>> weight is under 150 lbs. Randy
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| Re: [GMCnet] new counter top [message #60130 is a reply to message #60113] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 21:32 |
Gary Worobec
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Gordon, I think you are just a little bit ill informed. When was the last
time you saw combustion chamber volume measured in cubic inches or medicine
dispensed in anything other than metric. When was the last time you took a
pill measured in ounces instead of milligrams.
You would be surprised at how much metric is used in the U.S. including
products.
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon" <wizwing@telus.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] new counter top
> Hi Randy;
> I'm not questioning your calculations, just commenting on your
> unAMERICAN metric measurement. The US had a ban on metric delineated
> products many years ago. Canada is much more intelligent than that.
> 454 grams of butter, 3.87 meters wide carpet, etc. HFSCYG? What a
> crazy world we live in.
> I thought I did take several pictures of your counter top but I can't
> find them.
> Gordon
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> rwbmitiopt wrote:
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>> Hey Gordon, long time no hear. Yeah I'm switching from this antiquated
>> system to what the rest of the world uses. Anyway all granite that I've
>> used in our remodels comes in cm thicknesses or thats what the suppliers
>> spec.. I think my math is still correct for 1 sq/ft of 2cm
>> (101/128")thick stone. BTW did you by chance take a pic of my counter at
>> the Darrington rally?
>> Anyway good hearing from you,
>> ] Randy
>> ( Tin Gerbil wrote on Wed, 14 October 2009 10:32
>>> Randy;
>>> My gosh, 2cm. Is your heritage showing or couldn't you find your REAL
>>> tape measure? Square feet and cm's has my calculator flashing red.
>>> Tre's complique'
>>> Gordon "hiding from the rain"
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>>> rwbmitiopt wrote:
>>>> I just went out and weighed a scrap of marble (maybe a bit lighter
>>>> than granite but not by much). It works out to 12.5 lbs per square
>>>> foot for 2cm thick material (common thickness for counter top)
>>>> Estimate the square footage of the counter top is 10 sq ft so total
>>>> weight is under 150 lbs. Randy
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