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ljdavick
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Does anyone make a pre-fit set of drapes for the cockpit?
It looks like an easy enough job, and the little carriers seem to be available on the internet, but if there is a ready-made kit, then my laziness beats my wallet almost every time.
Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, Ca
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60028 is a reply to message #60026] |
Tue, 13 October 2009 21:59  |
Len Novak
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As I recall they are available from someone. It was easier and less
expensive for the spouse unit here to remake all the curtains and drapes
from stuff she bought on sale. I have pics posted somewhere in the pic
site.
Cheers,
Len and Pat
78 Kingsley, The Beast II with dash lights that work
Fallbrook, CA
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
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Subject: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit
Does anyone make a pre-fit set of drapes for the cockpit?
It looks like an easy enough job, and the little carriers seem to be
available on the internet, but if there is a ready-made kit, then my
laziness beats my wallet almost every time.
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Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
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The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Las Vegas, NV new email: B52sRule@Gmail.com
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60034 is a reply to message #60033] |
Tue, 13 October 2009 22:13 |
Len Novak
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That be them, good stuff
Len and Pat
78 Kingsley, The Beast II with dash lights that work
Fallbrook, CA
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mr.erf ERFisher
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit
Guske
http://www.bdub.net/guske/index.html
gene
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Does anyone make a pre-fit set of drapes for the cockpit?
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> It looks like an easy enough job, and the little carriers seem to be
> available on the internet, but if there is a ready-made kit, then my
> laziness beats my wallet almost every time.
> --
> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
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Las Vegas, NV new email: B52sRule@Gmail.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60042 is a reply to message #60034] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 00:17 |
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ljdavick
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Guske gets a call in the morning!
On Oct 13, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Len wrote:
> That be them, good stuff
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> Len and Pat
> 78 Kingsley, The Beast II with dash lights that work
> Fallbrook, CA
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
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> www.bdub.net/novak/
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mr.erf ERFisher
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:05 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit
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> Guske
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> http://www.bdub.net/guske/index.html
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> gene
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> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Larry Davick
> <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Does anyone make a pre-fit set of drapes for the cockpit?
>>
>> It looks like an easy enough job, and the little carriers seem to be
>> available on the internet, but if there is a ready-made kit, then my
>> laziness beats my wallet almost every time.
>> --
>> Larry Davick
>> The Mystery Machine
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| Re: Drapes for the cockpit [message #60123 is a reply to message #60026] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 21:15 |
Chr$
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Please ask them for a price list. I have a lady that does all of our sewing, My wife doesn's sew, but she can change her own oil. Anyhoo. I have my old pink cockpit curtain and she was gonna use it as a pattern, but if something ready made is available...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60125 is a reply to message #60123] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 21:21 |
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ljdavick
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I gave Margaret Guske a call and she couldn't be nicer! She is
sending me a brochure by mail - doesn't do email - that should be at
my place by Monday.
Give her a call (810) 987-5788 she is really pleasant to talk with.
In any case, I'll post my findings here.
Ljdavick at comcast.net
On Oct 14, 2009, at 7:15 PM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Please ask them for a price list. I have a lady that does all of our
> sewing, My wife doesn's sew, but she can change her own oil. Anyhoo.
> I have my old pink cockpit curtain and she was gonna use it as a
> pattern, but if something ready made is available...
> --
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> 77 Ex-Kingsley 455: The Engineer's Motorhome
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60131 is a reply to message #60123] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 21:32 |
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What Guske's have had is much nicer than the curtain in my opinion. It's
pleated and folds nicely. Since it's firm and flat, it doesn't behave like a
drape. They also had replacement tracks and figured out a way to connect
behind the rearview mirror. That's on my wish list, which is getting
overwhelmed by "need to replace this first" taking priority. Today's new
priority is a furnace for staying warm in Elkhart, Indiana.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
Chris Choffat wrote:
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> Please ask them for a price list. I have a lady that does all of our sewing,
> My wife doesn's sew, but she can change her own oil. Anyhoo. I have my old
> pink cockpit curtain and she was gonna use it as a pattern, but if something
> ready made is available...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60135 is a reply to message #60131] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 22:00 |
GMCWiperMan
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Guske's pleated blinds are very nicely made and are what we've always
had in the GMC -- and its predecessor new SOB. But there are some
shortcomings which may yet cause me to replace them with drapes -- after
>10 years:
1. A method must be devised to keep the blinds in the stowed position
(they probably included tie-backs but I made my own from Lexan).
2. As delivered, the Guske blinds were too long for my cockpit -- they
would not clear the seating surface of the seats and would not pass
between the driver's seat and the steering wheel. I have used two
solutions for that problem:
A. I cut the blinds about 3" shorter so they'd clear the seating
surfaces. Don't laugh when I tell you how: I clamped the folded blinds
between 1"x2" boards, turned the blade backward on my table saw, and
sawed off the 3". Perfect results. (Be sure to clean the table VERY
thoroughly before wiping it with the folded blinds.)
B. Later, I added a Grant Security 2000 system to the steering
wheel, making it easily removable so the blind can hang straight down.
3. Some care is needed in opening and closing the blinds to keep the
rigid leader handle from becoming unhooked from its hanger.
4. In my experience, it's inevitable that the adhesive on the Velcro,
which secures the two handles together when the blinds are closed, will
dry out and require replacement.
5. The pleats in the blinds eventually become "floppy" and do not
naturally fold properly by themselves -- one must bunch them up by hand
when stowing the blind.
6. You can't just throw dusty blinds into the washing machine to clean
them.
7. Finally, and most annoying, because of the steep angle of the GMC
windshield, the blinds hang down about 1/3 of the way from the dash to
the rear of the cockpit floor, interfering with the use of the cockpit.
The bottom seam of drapes can be "thrown" up on top of the dash so that
they approximately follow the windshield contour, making the cockpit
more usable.
Just so you buy with full knowledge.
Ken H.
Byron Songer wrote:
> What Guske's have had is much nicer than the curtain in my opinion. It's
> pleated and folds nicely. Since it's firm and flat, it doesn't behave like a
> drape. They also had replacement tracks and figured out a way to connect
> behind the rearview mirror. That's on my wish list, which is getting
> overwhelmed by "need to replace this first" taking priority. Today's new
> priority is a furnace for staying warm in Elkhart, Indiana.
>
> Byron Songer
>
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| Re: Drapes for the cockpit [message #60139 is a reply to message #60026] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 22:22 |
JohnL455
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For what it's worth, Loraine at Cinnabar was making only the front windshield set that pulls from left and right and meets at center using the factory track. They turned out perfect right down to the sliders. So much so I wanted the rest of the coach to match but she only does the front. There is white velcro sown on where they meet to hold them together and cloth stays to keep them in the parked position. Sort of a white with a slight texture to the fabric. Very nice even if you have the Guske shades on the rest of the coach I would think.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60144 is a reply to message #60135] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 22:38 |
Kosier
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Ken,
We bought the Guske blinds and I installed them(yes, we had to
cut them off)
My wife didn't like them and told me to put the original tracks
back in and
she would make new curtains. I did and she did. Bobby Moore saw
them
and liked them and talked her into making him a set. BUT, don't
ask!!
I realize you don't go where it gets cold, but it helps to be
able to lay the
bottom of the curtains up on the dash and not lose a lot of heat
out through
the windshield. Next time we come south, I'll show them to you.
I've got a couple of further mods I'd like to make, but I suppose
I'll have
to do that myself.
Gary Kosier
77EII & 77PB
Newark, Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Henderson" <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit
> Guske's pleated blinds are very nicely made and are what we've
> always
> had in the GMC -- and its predecessor new SOB. But there are
> some
> shortcomings which may yet cause me to replace them with
> drapes -- after
> >10 years:
>
> 1. A method must be devised to keep the blinds in the stowed
> position
> (they probably included tie-backs but I made my own from
> Lexan).
>
> 2. As delivered, the Guske blinds were too long for my
> cockpit -- they
> would not clear the seating surface of the seats and would not
> pass
> between the driver's seat and the steering wheel. I have used
> two
> solutions for that problem:
>
> A. I cut the blinds about 3" shorter so they'd clear the
> seating
> surfaces. Don't laugh when I tell you how: I clamped the
> folded blinds
> between 1"x2" boards, turned the blade backward on my table
> saw, and
> sawed off the 3". Perfect results. (Be sure to clean the
> table VERY
> thoroughly before wiping it with the folded blinds.)
>
> B. Later, I added a Grant Security 2000 system to the
> steering
> wheel, making it easily removable so the blind can hang
> straight down.
>
> 3. Some care is needed in opening and closing the blinds to
> keep the
> rigid leader handle from becoming unhooked from its hanger.
>
> 4. In my experience, it's inevitable that the adhesive on the
> Velcro,
> which secures the two handles together when the blinds are
> closed, will
> dry out and require replacement.
>
> 5. The pleats in the blinds eventually become "floppy" and do
> not
> naturally fold properly by themselves -- one must bunch them up
> by hand
> when stowing the blind.
>
> 6. You can't just throw dusty blinds into the washing machine
> to clean
> them.
>
> 7. Finally, and most annoying, because of the steep angle of
> the GMC
> windshield, the blinds hang down about 1/3 of the way from the
> dash to
> the rear of the cockpit floor, interfering with the use of the
> cockpit.
> The bottom seam of drapes can be "thrown" up on top of the dash
> so that
> they approximately follow the windshield contour, making the
> cockpit
> more usable.
>
> Just so you buy with full knowledge.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> Byron Songer wrote:
>> What Guske's have had is much nicer than the curtain in my
>> opinion. It's
>> pleated and folds nicely. Since it's firm and flat, it doesn't
>> behave like a
>> drape. They also had replacement tracks and figured out a way
>> to connect
>> behind the rearview mirror. That's on my wish list, which is
>> getting
>> overwhelmed by "need to replace this first" taking priority.
>> Today's new
>> priority is a furnace for staying warm in Elkhart, Indiana.
>>
>> Byron Songer
>>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60146 is a reply to message #60144] |
Wed, 14 October 2009 23:31 |
GMCWiperMan
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Yeah, I forgot to mention the better heat retention with drapes on the
dash -- and that they can be as well insulated as you like. Oh well,
folks are going to learn their own lessons anyway.
Did I ever tell you about the "other" Sun machine I've got? Might have
been keeping it a secret so you wouldn't take it away from me. Now I
might just let you -- if you'll come get it. :-)
It's really a training device: It has a semi-permanently mounted
distributor, a coil, and 8 spark plugs. It has vacuum and speed
controls as well as a potentiometer for introducing additional
resistance in the condenser circuit (I think). In other words, it has
all of the essential elements of a Sun Diagnostics Machine except for a
quick-change mechanism for the distributor and a built in timing
device. I gave it to Larry Wills and Dan Hudson a few years ago, then
they both died and I inherited it back. Especially now that I'm about
to go to electronic ignition control it's very unlikely that I'll ever
do anything with it except try to find a corner to hide it in. You're
welcome to it if you want it for your collection. It came from the same
source as the other one.
Ken
Kosier wrote:
> Ken,
>
> We bought the Guske blinds and I installed them(yes, we had to
> cut them off)
> My wife didn't like them and told me to put the original tracks
> back in and
> she would make new curtains. I did and she did. Bobby Moore saw
> them
> and liked them and talked her into making him a set. BUT, don't
> ask!!
> I realize you don't go where it gets cold, but it helps to be
> able to lay the
> bottom of the curtains up on the dash and not lose a lot of heat
> out through
> the windshield. Next time we come south, I'll show them to you.
> I've got a couple of further mods I'd like to make, but I suppose
> I'll have
> to do that myself.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77EII & 77PB
> Newark, Ohio
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Henderson" <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit
>
>
>
>> Guske's pleated blinds are very nicely made and are what we've
>> always
>> had in the GMC -- and its predecessor new SOB. But there are
>> some
>> shortcomings which may yet cause me to replace them with
>> drapes -- after
>>
>>> 10 years:
>>>
>> 1. A method must be devised to keep the blinds in the stowed
>> position
>> (they probably included tie-backs but I made my own from
>> Lexan).
>>
>> 2. As delivered, the Guske blinds were too long for my
>> cockpit -- they
>> would not clear the seating surface of the seats and would not
>> pass
>> between the driver's seat and the steering wheel. I have used
>> two
>> solutions for that problem:
>>
>> A. I cut the blinds about 3" shorter so they'd clear the
>> seating
>> surfaces. Don't laugh when I tell you how: I clamped the
>> folded blinds
>> between 1"x2" boards, turned the blade backward on my table
>> saw, and
>> sawed off the 3". Perfect results. (Be sure to clean the
>> table VERY
>> thoroughly before wiping it with the folded blinds.)
>>
>> B. Later, I added a Grant Security 2000 system to the
>> steering
>> wheel, making it easily removable so the blind can hang
>> straight down.
>>
>> 3. Some care is needed in opening and closing the blinds to
>> keep the
>> rigid leader handle from becoming unhooked from its hanger.
>>
>> 4. In my experience, it's inevitable that the adhesive on the
>> Velcro,
>> which secures the two handles together when the blinds are
>> closed, will
>> dry out and require replacement.
>>
>> 5. The pleats in the blinds eventually become "floppy" and do
>> not
>> naturally fold properly by themselves -- one must bunch them up
>> by hand
>> when stowing the blind.
>>
>> 6. You can't just throw dusty blinds into the washing machine
>> to clean
>> them.
>>
>> 7. Finally, and most annoying, because of the steep angle of
>> the GMC
>> windshield, the blinds hang down about 1/3 of the way from the
>> dash to
>> the rear of the cockpit floor, interfering with the use of the
>> cockpit.
>> The bottom seam of drapes can be "thrown" up on top of the dash
>> so that
>> they approximately follow the windshield contour, making the
>> cockpit
>> more usable.
>>
>> Just so you buy with full knowledge.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>>
>> Byron Songer wrote:
>>
>>> What Guske's have had is much nicer than the curtain in my
>>> opinion. It's
>>> pleated and folds nicely. Since it's firm and flat, it doesn't
>>> behave like a
>>> drape. They also had replacement tracks and figured out a way
>>> to connect
>>> behind the rearview mirror. That's on my wish list, which is
>>> getting
>>> overwhelmed by "need to replace this first" taking priority.
>>> Today's new
>>> priority is a furnace for staying warm in Elkhart, Indiana.
>>>
>>> Byron Songer
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Drapes for the cockpit [message #60147 is a reply to message #60026] |
Thu, 15 October 2009 00:14 |
Chr$
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Those pleated shades for the windshield sound like what I have in my Volvo. they are accordion-like and stick together in the middle with velcro?
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60153 is a reply to message #60146] |
Thu, 15 October 2009 03:14 |
Tin Gerbil
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Ken;
I thought you were trying to stay cool not warm? I was just looking at
my windows and thinking of bubble wrap for insulation while it sits here
in the Cold White North. Then a little 500W heater should keep me
toasty while I pretend to be working on the galley. It was 60*F today
but will only be 50 tomorrow.
Could you give a summary of your EFI, ESC, EBL, what sensors you are
using, etc, sometime? The main reason I first held off on EFI is
because of the stumble you talked about at Santa Rosa. Then I found
other's with even worse problems. I sure hope you and Bruce have
discovered a fool proof solution.
I also want to make sure a GM 727 will work as well as a 747 with the
EBL. Many of the hotrod guys are getting good results with the 727 even
without the EBL. I may have to go to work for a few days to buy some
parts. A GMC is a bit like the mythical sailboat where you get to drink
warm beer while taking a cold shower and tear up $100 bills at the same
time. At least we can have cold beer and a warm shower, most of the time.
Thanks;
Gordon
Ken Henderson wrote:
> Yeah, I forgot to mention the better heat retention with drapes on the
> dash -- and that they can be as well insulated as you like. Oh well,
> folks are going to learn their own lessons anyway.
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'74 Canyon Lands "Tin Gerbil"
Vancouver Island, B.C.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60165 is a reply to message #60153] |
Thu, 15 October 2009 07:38 |
GMCWiperMan
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Registered: December 2007
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I'm ALWAYS trying to stay warm. Compared to what you NOBs consider
warm. 500 W heater!? Might as well leave the refrigerator door open
and depend on its light to keep you warm. How about two 1500 Watters
when the temperature gets below 50*F? Don't even want to think about it
being colder than that outside. (Low 40's forecast here this weekend.)
I used the bubble wrap in the SOB, even with its thermopane windows.
Don't in the GMC, but winter's the only time we use the cockpit
curtain. Even before the new dash air, we were cool enough in the
cockpit with the curtain open, but let it get cool outside & we close
the cockpit off from where I live.
There was nothing special about my Howell EFI until I installed the
EBL. All of the components are what they sent in the kit. The EBL
worked great again on the 50 mile drive home from the rally. Thus far,
I know very little about it other than that -- I haven't yet read all
the documentation that's on the web site.
Why would you use the ...727 rather than the ...747? Are the tables the
same or would you be on your own developing those for the GMC?
Ken H.
Gordon wrote:
> Ken;
> I thought you were trying to stay cool not warm? I was just looking at
> my windows and thinking of bubble wrap for insulation while it sits here
> in the Cold White North. Then a little 500W heater should keep me
> toasty while I pretend to be working on the galley. It was 60*F today
> but will only be 50 tomorrow.
> Could you give a summary of your EFI, ESC, EBL, what sensors you are
> using, etc, sometime? The main reason I first held off on EFI is
> because of the stumble you talked about at Santa Rosa. Then I found
> other's with even worse problems. I sure hope you and Bruce have
> discovered a fool proof solution.
> I also want to make sure a GM 727 will work as well as a 747 with the
> EBL. Many of the hotrod guys are getting good results with the 727 even
> without the EBL. I may have to go to work for a few days to buy some
> parts. A GMC is a bit like the mythical sailboat where you get to drink
> warm beer while taking a cold shower and tear up $100 bills at the same
> time. At least we can have cold beer and a warm shower, most of the time.
> Thanks;
> Gordon
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60167 is a reply to message #60163] |
Thu, 15 October 2009 07:49 |
tphipps
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Registered: August 2004
Location: Spanish Fort, AL
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The glue that holds the velcro blind closure lets go. I'm going to glue in little magnet buttons to solve that problem. For the "tie-backs", I'm using little plastic clamps for right now, but I'll drill holes in the track, and insert a plug of some sort. That way, I can have two positions for the blind stop. Thinking that one further forward would block early morning sun into the cockpit.
Tom Phipps,
75 GMC
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60171 is a reply to message #60167] |
Thu, 15 October 2009 08:07 |
Ray Erspamer
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Registered: May 2007
Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin
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I have the OEM front windshield accordian blinds that pull from each side AND THE TRACK and the OEM blinds that close off the cockpit behind the driver and passenger seats that I'm willing to sell. If anyone is interested email me off of the GMC net.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
The Malosco Cruiser (TZE368V101144)
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:49:10 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit
The glue that holds the velcro blind closure lets go. I'm going to glue in little magnet buttons to solve that problem. For the "tie-backs", I'm using little plastic clamps for right now, but I'll drill holes in the track, and insert a plug of some sort. That way, I can have two positions for the blind stop. Thinking that one further forward would block early morning sun into the cockpit.
Tom Phipps,
75 GMC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Drapes for the cockpit [message #60185 is a reply to message #60135] |
Thu, 15 October 2009 10:25 |
Rick Denney
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Ken Henderson writes...
> Guske's pleated blinds are very nicely made and are what we've always
> had in the GMC -- and its predecessor new SOB. But there are some
> shortcomings which may yet cause me to replace them with drapes -- after
>>10 years:
Our coach had pleated blinds (probably not from the Guskes) when we
bought it. They were cut slightly too short by the PO to resolve the
problems Ken described, with the result that one could see into the
coach under them from some angles. Though I didn't mind--anyone
looking at me in the buff will get what they deserve--it did not meet
with Redheaded approval. While at an International rally, We found a
set of drapes that Max Pardy's wife had made for a customer who then
didn't like the material. We loved the material and got a great price.
The soft drapes are really much more useful in the GMC than the
pleated blinds, in my experience. And the Velcro tabs are sewn in
place rather than being stuck on with adhesive, so they won't fall off
with time.
I also use them to keep the sun off of me from the side when driving,
and that is much easier when they are soft enough to be moved at a
moment's notice.
Rick "but the cloth drapes may fade in the sun in time" Denney
'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia
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