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[GMCnet] Spacers [message #47306] Tue, 23 June 2009 07:08 Go to next message
David L Greenberg is currently offline  David L Greenberg   United States
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:10:49 -0500 Mitch <Yowzax3@harbornet.com> writes:
>
>
> I'm sure these have been covered in the past.
> Good? Bad? POC?
> What's the consensus?
> --
> Mitch
> Tacoma, Wa.
> '80 Spitfire
> '03 Windstar
> X(very)PB 26 "Yowza"
> Where it rains always.
> It's wet, No sun, Gray.
> Go to Oregon.

I istalled them early on despite the dire predictions about premature
bearing failure. After 25k miles the bearings were mic'd and found to be
within spec (I changed them anyway) The ride was much improved and
truck-rut wander was just a bad memory. I found them to be worth the
money. Others may have a different experience.

David Lee Greenberg
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Re: [GMCnet] Spacers [message #47329 is a reply to message #47306] Tue, 23 June 2009 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Like a locker on a tandem axel truck. You only use when stuck or think you might get stuck.

--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Spacers
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 12:19 PM


Bob,Limited slip will not work on a GMC if you can find one to install.
There is too much load on it when you turn.
Only want to control  it is to employ a lock on demand. Driver is the
demand. You'll only use it when your on slippery surface or going straight
at slow speed.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Bob Heller <rheller@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

>
>
> Matt,
>
> Who said anything about "locker"?
>
> Ken said: "Limited slip will not work on wheels that also steer the
> vehicle. It will cause loss of control when engaged. The are no limited slip
> differentials on any vehicle with front wheel drive."
>
> I replied: "The 2009 Ford Focus RS in Europe uses a Quaife limited-slip
> diff on the front wheels."
>
> The operative phrase here is "limited-slip".
>
> Obviously, on a hard surface, if you lock the front wheels together you go
> pretty much straight. Anybody knows that! I wonder what it is like to drive
> the Focus RS with the Quaife LSD on a grippy surface while turning and
> accelerating. Does it try to pull you straight ahead? Does it make noises or
> feel really strange thoiugh the steering wheel? Is it safe on a slippery
> surface or does the car want to just go straight? Lots of questions. Maybe
> that's why limited slip diffs haven't been used on standard FWD vehicles.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Spacers [message #160340 is a reply to message #47306] Tue, 14 February 2012 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That was what I was trying to say, but couldn't even come to verbalizing my thoughts....

Marsha

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Date: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 3:41 pm




C Boyd wrote on Tue, 14 February 2012 15:37
> AH... the fog is lifting.. kinda like a 1/4" behind the wheel spacer with a concentric ring made on it with id of GMC wheel and od of whatever.. bound to work and solve a wheel issue for many owners wanting to stay with the hub centered wheels.
Exactly. I don't know why I couldn't word it that succintly.
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Re: [GMCnet] Spacers [message #160345 is a reply to message #47306] Tue, 14 February 2012 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doesn't even have to be 1/4 inch thick at the area between the hub & wheel. Just thick enough to keep it in place when removing the wheel. If I could, I'd make it from steel. I may be wrong, but doesn't dissimilar metals in close proximity encourage galvanic corrosion? Not sure that would be good. I guess the flange thickness can act like a spacer, but it could be made in various thicknesses if needed for different offset adjustment. Just my thoughts here; Take it for what it costs...

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1974 Eleganza SE

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Re: [GMCnet] Spacers [message #160347 is a reply to message #160340] Tue, 14 February 2012 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marsha wrote on Tue, 14 February 2012 17:00

That was what I was trying to say, but couldn't even come to verbalizing my thoughts....

Marsha

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Date: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 3:41 pm




C Boyd wrote on Tue, 14 February 2012 15:37
> AH... the fog is lifting.. kinda like a 1/4" behind the wheel spacer with a concentric ring made on it with id of GMC wheel and od of whatever.. bound to work and solve a wheel issue for many owners wanting to stay with the hub centered wheels.
Exactly. I don't know why I couldn't word it that succintly.
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Keep an eye on the stud length to make sure it will fully engage the lug nuts with the spacer thickness added.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Spacers [message #160350 is a reply to message #160345] Tue, 14 February 2012 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Richard Brown wrote on Tue, 14 February 2012 18:23

Doesn't even have to be 1/4 inch thick at the area between the hub & wheel. Just thick enough to keep it in place when removing the wheel. If I could, I'd make it from steel. I may be wrong, but doesn't dissimilar metals in close proximity encourage galvanic corrosion? Not sure that would be good. I guess the flange thickness can act like a spacer, but it could be made in various thicknesses if needed for different offset adjustment. Just my thoughts here; Take it for what it costs...

Richard & Carol Brown

1974 Eleganza SE

"DILLIGAF"

Lindale, Tx. 75771

903-881-0192
Thickness is TBD. I suggested 3/8" for the prototype, but less might work, or more might be required in some cases to help the rim clear the disc brake caliper. Will likley require refinements over time. And I agree with steel to prevent corrosion from dissimilar materials. The lugnuts are hard enough to remove without that.
Re: [GMCnet] Spacers [message #160353 is a reply to message #160350] Tue, 14 February 2012 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir: when I first put the Weld wheels on I had to use a 1/4" standard alum spacer with no problems with lug length and still had to grind the calipers some. No issue since I got the 2" spacers. I agree on steel but would think 1/8" or less would work as holder if brake clearance were not an issue?? Yes dissimilar metals corode. If the adapters were powder coated it should prevent contact between wheel and hub.





ahamilto wrote on Tue, 14 February 2012 20:30

Richard Brown wrote on Tue, 14 February 2012 18:23

Doesn't even have to be 1/4 inch thick at the area between the hub & wheel. Just thick enough to keep it in place when removing the wheel. If I could, I'd make it from steel. I may be wrong, but doesn't dissimilar metals in close proximity encourage galvanic corrosion? Not sure that would be good. I guess the flange thickness can act like a spacer, but it could be made in various thicknesses if needed for different offset adjustment. Just my thoughts here; Take it for what it costs...

Richard & Carol Brown

1974 Eleganza SE

"DILLIGAF"

Lindale, Tx. 75771

903-881-0192
Thickness is TBD. I suggested 3/8" for the prototype, but less might work, or more might be required in some cases to help the rim clear the disc brake caliper. Will likley require refinements over time. And I agree with steel to prevent corrosion from dissimilar materials. The lugnuts are hard enough to remove without that.



C. Boyd
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East Tennessee
Re: [GMCnet] Spacers [message #160355 is a reply to message #160353] Tue, 14 February 2012 20:34 Go to previous message
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""Sir: when I first put the Weld wheels on I had to use a 1/4" standard alum spacer with no problems with lug length and still had to grind the calipers some. No issue since I got the 2" spacers. I agree on steel but would think 1/8" or less would work as holder if brake clearance were not an issue?? Yes dissimilar metals corode. If the adapters were powder coated it should prevent contact between wheel and hub.

""

If you use steel wheels with tapered lug nuts you will have a fair amount of length to spare, but if you mount alloy wheels with washer type lug nuts, the current stud length is already marginal.


Bob de Kruyff
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