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RF_Burns is currently offline  RF_Burns   Canada
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Before I park the Murray for the winter, I was wondering if there was any way of protecting the CV boots and other rubber boots from drying out and deteriorating.

I searched on here and found nothing. A google search came up with some products and suggestions such as Armour-All, WD40, silicon sprays etc... but there was just as many warnings against using these products.

Any experiences? Recommendations?

Thanks.


Bruce Hislop
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Re: CV boot conditioner to extend life... [message #367095 is a reply to message #367094] Thu, 07 October 2021 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bruce,

303 Aerospace UV Protectant was recommended by Bob Sternfels as a conditioner and protection for GMC airbags. Bob was the guy that made the airbag covers/socks. I use it on almost all exterior rubber and plastic on the coach. Google the stuff and read the Amazon reviews and questions. It's also highly regarded in collector car circles.

Richard


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Re: CV boot conditioner to extend life... [message #367097 is a reply to message #367095] Thu, 07 October 2021 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Richard RV wrote on Thu, 07 October 2021 07:03
Bruce,

303 Aerospace UV Protectant was recommended by Bob Sternfels as a conditioner and protection for GMC airbags. Bob was the guy that made the airbag covers/socks. I use it on almost all exterior rubber and plastic on the coach. Google the stuff and read the Amazon reviews and questions. It's also highly regarded in collector car circles.

Richard
+1 on 303 products... Incidentally, their fabric care products are also recommended by Zip Dee:

https://www.awningsbyzipdee.com/products/fabric-cleaning-products/


Mark S. '73 Painted Desert, Manny 1 Ton Front End, Howell Injection, Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes, Fort Worth, TX
Re: CV boot conditioner to extend life... [message #367106 is a reply to message #367094] Fri, 08 October 2021 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I’d venture that since they don’t really get UV, most of the attack comes from the petroleum grease products contained inside of the joint

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Re: CV boot conditioner to extend life... [message #367190 is a reply to message #367106] Wed, 13 October 2021 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JohnL455 wrote on Fri, 08 October 2021 09:01
I’d venture that since they don’t really get UV, most of the attack comes from the petroleum grease products contained inside of the joint
Ozone does a number on rubber as well... 303 is supposed to protect against ozone degradation... The dry cracking you see on the outside of aged CV boots is most likely ozone related...


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Re: CV boot conditioner to extend life... [message #367197 is a reply to message #367094] Wed, 13 October 2021 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A quick search shows the atmosphere is 0.00006 of a percent ozone, and most of that is up in the ozone layer 20 miles up.

John Lebetski
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Re: CV boot conditioner to extend life... [message #367203 is a reply to message #367197] Thu, 14 October 2021 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JohnL455 wrote on Wed, 13 October 2021 19:23
A quick search shows the atmosphere is 0.00006 of a percent ozone, and most of that is up in the ozone layer 20 miles up.
That is correct... Ozone is a very potent oxidizer... Per Wikipedia:

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Tiny traces of ozone in the air will attack double bonds in rubber chains, with natural rubber, polybutadiene, styrene-butadiene rubber and nitrile rubber being most sensitive to degradation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_cracking

There also tend to be higher levels of ozone near cities and industrial areas... Electric motors, industry, oil and gas production all create higher levels of ozone near the ground...


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Re: CV boot conditioner to extend life... [message #367204 is a reply to message #367094] Thu, 14 October 2021 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll also add that CV grease is designed to be compatible with rubber...

Mark S. '73 Painted Desert, Manny 1 Ton Front End, Howell Injection, Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes, Fort Worth, TX
Re: CV boot conditioner to extend life... [message #367207 is a reply to message #367094] Thu, 14 October 2021 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No doubt O3 speeds up rubber degradation. The ozone generators that are used to remove smoke odors cause the articles to disintegrate a year later. But again it’s all about concentrations.

John Lebetski
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I hope, when I retire, I'll have time to do those things.
I went to Western States with a very dusty non washed coach.
Someone was considerate to hand print , WASH ME Please !😃

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> No doubt O3 speeds up rubber degradation. The ozone generators that are
> used to remove smoke odors cause the articles to disintegrate a year later.
> But again it’s all about concentrations.
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: CV boot conditioner to extend life... [message #367213 is a reply to message #367210] Fri, 15 October 2021 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim, did it look like Grace's handwriting...? 😀

Richard


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it was😃 not Grace as the writing was Too high up.

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